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[dlbalr]

Montreal Free Agents:

Restricted (Class II): Mike Blunden, Gabriel Dumont, Ian Schultz, Joe Stejskal, Dustin Tokarski, Yannick Weber, Ryan White

Unrestricted (Class III): Colby Armstrong, Jason DeSantis, Davis Drewiske, Jeff Halpern, Petteri Nokelainen, Michael Ryder

 

Unrestricted (Class VI): Blake Geoffrion, Frederic St-Denis

Unrestricted (Class UFA): Alexander Avtsin

Players will be removed from the list as they sign.

Relevant Links:
2012-13 Cap Calculations
HW Contract Page
Waiver Situation

- Anyone making $375,000 + the minimum salary ($525,000) will count in part against the cap upon a reduction to the minors.  For example, a player making $1.2 million would count as $300,000 on the cap (1.2 M - [375k + 525k]).

Known no-trade clauses:
- Rene Bourque (limited, 10 teams)
- Brian Gionta (full)
- Josh Gorges (limited NTC)
- Andrei Markov (14 teams)
- Travis Moen (partial NTC in 2013-14)
- Tomas Plekanec (modified, changes during the contract)

If you have any questions, either PM me or reply to this thread. (As this is a thread for everyone, if there's something you'd like covered, please let me know.) More information will be added throughout the season and as it becomes available. The thread will be cleaned out periodically to keep all relevant information within 1 page.

[dlbalr]

50-Contract Situation for 2013-14:

Scorecard
Total committed contracts: 34
+ Restricted Free Agents: 7
- Potential slide rule players: 1
= Revised total (max 50): 40

Legend: Black - under contract, Red - UFA, Blue - RFA, Purple - Needs to be signed for next season or rights lost. SR - Slide Rule, NQC - Non-Qualification Candidate, Crossed out name - player has signed overseas

Forwards:
Michael Bournival
Rene Bourque
David Desharnais
Lars Eller
Alex Galchenyuk
Brendan Gallagher
Brian Gionta
Patrick Holland

Charles Hudon (SR)

Danny Kristo
Louis Leblanc
Phillipe Lefebvre
Travis Moen
Joonas Nattinen
Max Pacioretty
Tomas Plekanec
Brandon Prust
Steve Quailer

Michael Blunden (NQC)

Gabriel Dumont
Andreas Engqvist

Ian Schultz (NQC)
Ryan White

Colby Armstrong
Alexander Avtsin

Blake Geoffrion

Jeff Halpern

Petteri Nokelainen

Michael Ryder

Olivier Archambault

Daniel Pribyl

Dustin Walsh

Defence:
Nathan Beaulieu
Francis Bouillon
Raphael Diaz

Darren Dietz
Morgan Ellis
Alexei Emelin
Josh Gorges
Tomas Kaberle (likely buyout)
Andrei Markov
Greg Pateryn

P.K. Subban
Jarred Tinordi

Joe Stejskal (NQC)

Yannick Weber

Jason DeSantis

Davis Drewiske

Frederic St-Denis

Magnus Nygren

Goalies:
Peter Budaj

Mike Condon
Peter Delmas

Carey Price

Robert Mayer

Dustin Tokarski

[dlbalr]

What is UFA-VI?

Group 6 free agency is for players who are 25 or older, have played at least 3 pro seasons, aren't on their entry-level deal anymore, and have played less than 80 NHL games (28 GP) for goalies. Andre Benoit and Shawn Belle both qualified for this last season, Cedrick Desjardins (dealt by the Habs before the preseason) will as well.

[saskhab]

http://www.broadstre...sion-salary-cap

Finally, a real explaination on suspended players and the salary cap.

[dlbalr]

The second post with the contract scorecard has been updated to reflect the signed situation for next season (signed/RFA/UFA). For those who don't want to look, between RFA's and signed contracts there are 47 taken up out of the limit of 50. Most years I denote a couple players as NQC (those who may go unqualified) but this year I could easily see 5 or more let go. I've made my guesses at who could go with the 7 I've tagged as NQC and to be honest, I could easily add a couple more to the list as players that I think they'd at least discuss releasing.

[dlbalr]

I've entered Beaulieu's contract as well as added the slide rule revisions (applies to Bournival, Gallagher, and Tinordi - their new cap hits are now on the contract page).

[dlbalr]

Montreal presently has roughly $54.2 M committed in cap hit for next season. When you add in an estimated 12-13 M for the likes of Price, Subban, Eller, and Diaz, there's not a whole lot left if the plan is to have a bit of a cushion if the expectation is that the cap will come down in the new CBA. (Of course if the determination has been made to bury a contract in the minors, that situation changes but the roster presently stands there's not a whole lot of room...nor are there many roster spots left.)

[JoeLassister]

I found this article but I really don't know where to post it. Kinda cool.

http://business.fina...ily-tax-havens/

[DON]

<sup>All must see a ton of 2012 draft picks being signed lately.
Why are they being signed now, when i assume most dont need to before June 1st, 2014.

Are there advantages to say, signing Galchenyuk today, vs next March when finishing up junior year?
Habs normally wait to sign draft picks, is that a club policy or something?</sup>

[dlbalr]

Generally speaking, this has become more commonplace in recent years. There's a cap advantage (albeit a minor one) to signing a prospect and then having them play in junior, referred to as a contract slide as I'm sure you've seen me mention before. Basically, the value of the signing bonus comes off the players' cap for each year they're signed, under 20, and not in the NHL.

Case in point is Brendan Gallagher. He had a cap hit of $900,000 with a max signing bonus ($90,000). Although he signed during the year, it was before the March 1st cutoff (I think that's the date) so he qualified for a slide. As a result, his cap hit is now $870,000 (the difference being the $90,000 bonus divided by the 3 years on the contract); his 'salary' (including bonuses) is 900/900/810.

Also, and this is speculation on my end, agents may be pushing the players to sign especially with talks of extended and only partially guaranteed ELC's (the 5 year proposal only has 2 guaranteed years plus 3 options).

[DON]

Generally speaking, this has become more commonplace in recent years. There's a cap advantage (albeit a minor one) to signing a prospect and then having them play in junior, referred to as a contract slide as I'm sure you've seen me mention before. Basically, the value of the signing bonus comes off the players' cap for each year they're signed, under 20, and not in the NHL.

Case in point is Brendan Gallagher. He had a cap hit of $900,000 with a max signing bonus ($90,000). Although he signed during the year, it was before the March 1st cutoff (I think that's the date) so he qualified for a slide. As a result, his cap hit is now $870,000 (the difference being the $90,000 bonus divided by the 3 years on the contract); his 'salary' (including bonuses) is 900/900/810.

Also, and this is speculation on my end, agents may be pushing the players to sign especially with talks of extended and only partially guaranteed ELC's (the 5 year proposal only has 2 guaranteed years plus 3 options).

thanks

[JoeLassister]

No-Trade Clauses:

- Rene Bourque (limited, 10 teams)
- Erik Cole (full)
- Brian Gionta (full)
- Scott Gomez (3 teams)
- Josh Gorges (full NTC in 2012-13, limited NTC for the duration of the deal)
- Andrei Markov (2011 - full, beyond that, can block a move to 14 teams)
- Travis Moen (partial NTC in 2012-13 and 2013-14)
- Tomas Plekanec (modified, changes during the contract)

This is from Habsworld website.

Care to explain the difference between "Limited, partial and modified" Brian ? (or anyone else)

[dlbalr]

This is from Habsworld website.

Care to explain the difference between "Limited, partial and modified" Brian ? (or anyone else)

Basically that's the terminology I was given when I got the info. Modified is the popular term now which suggests that it changes throughout the deal whereas limited/partial implies that that it's a fixed restriction that isn't a full one (ie: 5 teams the player can block a move to for the duration of the contract).

[Willey101]

Realistically does that even matter? I mean sure they can block a trade but we've seen example after example of players with NTC being shipped away.

[Machine of Loving Grace]

Realistically does that even matter? I mean sure they can block a trade but we've seen example after example of players with NTC being shipped away.

A No Trade Clause and a No Movement Clause gives players controls over their career. That's what it is really about. So it doesn't mean, "You can't trade me ever" but "You can't trade me whenever wherever".

[Willey101]

A No Trade Clause and a No Movement Clause gives players controls over their career. That's what it is really about. So it doesn't mean, "You can't trade me ever" but "You can't trade me whenever wherever".

It gives a level of control but ultimately the power is with the team. If you don't want a player you can make it extremely uncomfortable for them.

[Machine of Loving Grace]

It gives a level of control but ultimately the power is with the team. If you don't want a player you can make it extremely uncomfortable for them.

Kaberle held the Leafs back for several years until his final year on the team and got them to trade him to the team who ultimately won the Cup. The Leafs had to leave Jeff Carter and a 1st on the table because Kaberle rejected a trade to the Flyers.

You also have Yashin who refused a trade so the Islanders had to buy him out and are still paying for it.

[Willey101]

I see where you are coming from but that's how many examples out of players who have NTC who have moved?

[Machine of Loving Grace]

I see where you are coming from but that's how many examples out of players who have NTC who have moved?

Again, it's not the player saying, "YOU CAN'T MOVE ME" It's the player saying, "I have control over where you move me to". Scott Gomez refused to be traded to Long Island last year. However, Gomez could only select three teams to not be traded to back in 2009 and Montreal was not on the list. Players get traded all of the time with NTCs and NMCs but you just can't dump every player in Phoenix or Long Island. The Leafs wanted Rick Nash but he made a list of six teams he could be moved to and the Leafs were not on the list. It limited the GMs power and ensured that Nash could goto a team he wanted to play for.

When a player receives an NMC, you're basically telling the player that they can stay in town for as long as they want and the only way they can be forced to leave is a buyout. No Trade Clauses are just, "Power to be traded where I want to be traded if I have to be traded". Make it as uncomfortable as you want but there's limits. You cannot permanently bench a player because the NHLPA will be on your ass. The choice is simple: work with the player or buy them out and deal with the cap hit.

[Commandant]

Exactly, its more about not getting sent to a city you don't want, than it is about blocking all trades.

[dlbalr]

Although not officially announced anywhere by the team (that I can find at least), Alain Berger was released by the club today.  This puts the Habs back to 46 on the 50 contract limit (soon to be 45 with Gomez's pending release as well). 

[dlbalr]

Apologies for the slight delay but the annual capsheet is now available: http://www.habsworld.net/out.php?16252

[dlbalr]

Post #2 (either scroll up or click here) now has the 50 contract situation heading into next season.