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Marc would have traded him after he crashed into the Tim Hortons.

Three..Lefebvres' mom.

Of course Plekanec's decline was predictable but not to the extent that it was one year to the next, no one could predict that. There's no being "allowed" to play center, players earn their spot in the lineup. The way that he surprisingly made the NHL at 18, that's earning a spot. Montreal had no choice but to keep him up with the big club. He has had countless chances to play center dating back years now and he hasn't stuck there. At what point do we say maybe it's the player? It's perfectly okay for a player that was drafted as a center to be more suited for the wing, it happens all of the time. But to blame a GM for his inability to develop as the #1 center he was supposed to be is unfair.

Galchenyuk and Beaulieu to Calgary for Bennett and Hamilton or Galchenyuk and Beaulieu to Edmonton for Lucic and Nurse discuss no more Weber/PK talk

Came into this thread hoping for some new juicy trade rumour talk. Instead got to hear about the Weber/Subban trade.

Lol at subban vs Weber stuff.

Because Weber played great and was in the Norris conversation for most of the year? 50 cents on the dollar? Well that's quite the fleece job. Subban is twice the player that Weber is apparently. There are 4 years between them, not 14. And the reason Nashville made the trade was because they wanted a puck moving defenseman because that's they style they are going for. It was a great trade for them. It doesn't mean it was a bad trade for us. Take a second to breathe and think before you type I agree that it was a lateral move player wise. Both are great defensemen but they were traded for each other because they have different styles that each team coveted. Since Nashville hired Laviolette, they are going for a more up tempo styled game, whereas Montreal wants to be playing a more conservative style. Both players fit into their organizations better than their previous ones. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. We will all miss the Subby Doos, low fives and hospital donation, but don't let that cloud your judgement about what each player does on the ice and what they mean to their team.

Boo hoo is the theme of 99% of the posts that you make, always complaining about something. So I find it funny that you use that to describe someone who is generally positive. I tend to pick on the things you say because they are quite often very outlandish and illogical. It's like you just spew out a bunch of words without thinking about it whatsoever. Somewhere in the rants are little pieces of things that make some sense and can be considered as factual, but it's hard to sift through it all to get to that. Case in point: " I would be happy to trade a player for 10 cents on the dollar". Really? Is that what you really think or is it all for dramatic effect? Because as a reader it's hard to take you seriously. " I was happy that they traded Subban for a player in decline because I felt slighted at an event" Really? I've only posted hundreds of times about that damn trade, and if that's what it is you get from everything I've wrote, then your reading comprehension needs work. To summarize: I was pissed off Subban got traded, then I grew to learn more about Shea Weber. And then I got excited about how he would fit in, and I still am happy with how the trade effected the team this season. I referenced an event I attended specifically to see Subban where he was a dick head because at the time the thread was talking about his personality.

Because the Habs made a bad trade in the past to the Rangers involving a young player, that means that all future trades involving a young player to the Rangers will also be bad - 29 Logic A more reasonable response would be something like: I think that Galchenyuk has a higher ceiling and is arguably already the better player right now, so that deal would not make sense for the Habs to make.

I don't think he wants to fix centre the way we see it, and if he does, he wants to find a defence first top six centre. He will take a 45-55 point guy that plays responsibly over a 60-70 guy like Chuck who doesn't. And if he finds a two way centre with 60+ point potential he will pay a serious premium. Otherwise expect the Habs to sign two veteran centres to PTOs because Bergevin loves a bargain more than anything. He's the dumpster diving general manager.

The fact that I think Galchenyuk has a MUCH higher ceiling should be obvious. Galchenyuk should be untouchable unless he is part of a package for someone like McKinnon or barkov. But im sure someone like you would be happy to trade him for 10 cents in the dollar, just as you were happy that they traded Subban for a guy in decline- all because you felt he slighted you at an event. Boo hoo hoo ill will. Whatever.

Of course you are always positive. It's clear you are satisfied with losing. It's more important for you to get your Pom Poms out for management, lose, lose, or lose. and yes the suggested trades for galchenyuk are for 10 cents on the dollar. The Weber trade was 50 cents on the dollar, when you factor in his age, contract and the way he has faded in the later half of the year for the past two seasons. There is a reason why Nashville traded their captain and the guy who was supposed to be the heart of the franchise - even though weber has a lower cap and in is getting paid less, given that he had a front loaded deal (which is important for a small market team). no, in this instance there was not a win-win. if the trade was Subban and Gallaghar for Weber and forsberg, you could argue it was win-win - we get weaker on defence, but stronger offensively.

The trade did not make the team any better. Therefore, the whole argument that Weber 'fit better into the style of play' is nugatory. If we acquired a guy to 'fit into the system' then the rationale had to be that it would improve the team. Yet we were no better in our own end, did not score more goals, did not win more games, did not do any better in the playoffs, and the team character was described by the GM as 'fragile.' The results, rationally examined, show that the trade was a futile lateral move to please a coach who should have been fired and soon was. Anyhow,. this is the 'trade proposal' thread. The question returns: Galy for what return from the Rags? I'm honestly curious.

Ha ha, yes - a dumb-ass MO.