Habs Complete Depth Chart

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CENTERS

Scott Gomez —— | 5' 11" | 200 | 23 déc. 1979 | 29 | Anchorage, AK, USA

Tomas Plekanec —— | 5' 11" | 197 | 31 oct. 1982 | 26 | Kladno, CZE

Maxim Lapierre —— | 6' 2" | 207 | 29 mars 1985 | 24 | Saint-Léonard, QC, CAN

Glen Metropolit —— | 5' 10" | 195 | 25 juin 1974 | 35 | Toronto, ON, CAN

Kyle Chipchura —— | 6' 2" | 204 | 19 févr. 1986 | 23 | Westlock, AB, CAN

Ben Maxwell —— | 6' 1" | 177 | 30 mars 1988 | 21 | North Vancouver, BC, CAN

David Desharnais —— | 5' 6" | 170 | 14 sept. 1986 | 22 | Quebec City, QC, CAN

Ryan White —— | 6' 0" | 200 | 17 mars 1988 | 21 | Brandon, MB, CAN

Olivier Fortier —— | 6' 0" | 168 | 2 mai 1989 | 20 | Quebec City, QC, CAN

Tom Pyatt —— | 6' 0" | 187 | 14 févr. 1987 | 22 | Thunder Bay, ON, CAN

Dany Masse —— | 5' 10" | 188 | 12 mai 1988 | 21 | La Pocatiere, QC, CAN

Mikael Johansson —— | 5' 10" | 176 | 27 juin 1985 | 24 | Arvika, SWE

Patrick Johnson —— | 5' 9" | 155 | 21 avr. 1989 | 20 | Madison, WI, USA

Louis Leblanc —— | 6' 0" | 178 | 26 janv. 1991 | 18 | Pointe-Claire, QC, CAN

Joonas Nattinen —— | 6' 2" | 183 | 3 janv. 1991 | 18 | Jamsa, FIN

Gabriel Dumont —— | 5' 9" | 170 | 6 oct. 1990 | 18 | Ville Degelis, QC, CAN

Michael Cichy —— | 5' 11" | 187 | 8 juil. 1990 | 18 | New Britain, CT, USA

Dustin Walsh —— | 6' 2" | 175 | 20 mars 1991 | 18 | Shannonville, ON, CAN

LEFT-WINGERS

Mike Cammalleri —— | 5' 9" | 185 | 8 juin 1982 | 27 | Richmond Hill, ON, CAN

Andrei Kostitsyn —— | 6' 0" | 208 | 3 févr. 1985 | 24 | Novopolotsk, BLR

Guillaume Latendresse —— | 6' 2" | 230 | 24 mai 1987 | 22 | Ste-Catherine, QC, CAN

Gregory Stewart —— | 6' 2" | 200 | 21 mai 1986 | 23 | Kitchener, ON, CAN

Max Pacioretty —— | 6' 2" | 203 | 20 nov. 1988 | 20 | New Canaan, CT, USA

Mathieu Darche —— | 6' 1" | 217 | 26 nov. 1976 | 32 | Montreal, QC, CAN

Brock Trotter —— | 5' 10" | 185 | 16 janv. 1987 | 22 | Brandon, MB, CAN

Andrew Conboy —— | 6' 4" | 190 | 16 mai 1988 | 21 | Burnsville, MN, USA

Ryan Russell —— | 5' 10" | 180 | 2 mai 1987 | 22 | Caroline, AB, CAN

Maxim Trunev —— | 5' 11" | 174 | 7 sept. 1990 | 18 | Kirovo-Chepetsk, RUS

RIGHT-WINGERS

Brian Gionta —— | 5' 7" | 175 | 18 janv. 1979 | 30 | Rochester, NY, USA

Matt D'Agostini —— | 6' 0" | 201 | 23 oct. 1986 | 22 | Sault Ste. Marie, ON, CAN

Sergei Kostitsyn —— | 5' 11" | 204 | 20 mars 1987 | 22 | Novopolotsk, BLR

Georges Laraque —— | 6' 3" | 253 | 7 déc. 1976 | 32 | Montreal, QC, CAN

Mike Glumac —— | 6' 2" | 200 | 5 avr. 1980 | 29 | Niagara Falls, ON, CAN

James Wyman —— | 6' 2" | 192 | 27 févr. 1986 | 23 | Edina, MI, USA

Danny Kristo —— | 5' 11" | 172 | 18 juin 1990 | 19 | Edina, MN, USA

Alexander Avtsin —— | 6' 2" | 198 | 19 mars 1991 | 18 | Moscow, RUS

Steve Quailer —— | 6' 3" | 184 | 5 août 1989 | 19 | Arvada, CO, USA

DEFENSEMEN

Andrei Markov —— | 6' 0" | 209 | 20 déc. 1978 | 30 | Voskresensk, RUS

Jaroslav Spacek —— | 5' 11" | 204 | 11 févr. 1974 | 35 | Rokycany, CZE

Roman Hamrlik —— | 6' 2" | 209 | 12 avr. 1974 | 35 | Zlin, CZE

Hal Gill —— | 6' 7" | 250 | 6 avr. 1975 | 34 | Concord, MA, USA

Josh Gorges —— | 6' 1" | 202 | 14 août 1984 | 24 | Kelowna, BC, CAN

Ryan O'Byrne —— | 6' 6" | 228 | 19 juil. 1984 | 24 | Victoria, BC, CAN

Yannick Weber —— | 5' 11" | 194 | 23 sept. 1988 | 20 | Morges, CHE

Mathieu Carle —— | 6' 0" | 206 | 30 sept. 1987 | 21 | Gatineau, QC, CAN

P.K. Subban —— | 5' 11" | 200 | 13 mai 1989 | 20 | Toronto, ON, CAN

David Fischer —— | 6' 3" | 185 | 19 févr. 1988 | 21 | Minneapolis, MN, USA

Alex Henry —— | 6' 5" | 220 | 18 oct. 1979 | 29 | Elliot Lake, ON, CAN

Marvin Degon —— | 6' 0" | 175 | 20 juil. 1983 | 25 | Millbury, MA, USA

Andre Benoit —— | 5' 11" | 190 | 6 janv. 1984 | 25 | St. Albert, ON, CAN

Shawn Belle —— | 6' 1" | 220 | 3 janv. 1985 | 24 | Edmonton, AB, CAN

Michael Busto —— | 6' 2" | 217 | 20 juin 1986 | 23 | Vancouver, BC, CAN

Alexei Yemelin —— | 6' 0" | 187 | 25 avr. 1986 | 23 | Togliatti, RUS

Konstantin Korneev —— | 5' 11" | 176 | 5 juin 1984 | 25 | Moscow, RUS

Phillipe Paquet —— | 6' 3" | 200 | 12 mars 1987 | 22 | Quebec City, QC, CAN

Joe Stejskal —— | 6' 2" | 186 | 30 avr. 1988 | 21 | Grand Rapids, MN, USA

Nichlas Torp —— | 5' 11" | 196 | 10 avr. 1989 | 20 | Jonkoping, SWE

Scott Kishel —— | 5' 11" | 170 | 21 avr. 1989 | 20 | Virginia, MN, USA

Greg Pateryn —— | 6' 2" | 212 | 20 juin 1990 | 19 | Sterling Heights, MI, USA

Mac Bennett —— | 6' 0" | 170 | 25 mars 1991 | 18 | Warwick, RI, USA

GOALTENDERS

Carey Price —— | 6' 3" | 219 | 16 août 1987 | 21 | Anahim Lake, BC, CAN

Jaroslav Halak —— | 5' 11" | 182 | 13 mai 1985 | 24 | Bratislava, SVK

Cedrick Desjardins —— | 6' 0" | 182 | 30 sept. 1985 | 23 | Edmundston, NB, CAN

Jason Missiaen —— | 6' 8" | 193 | 25 avr. 1990 | 19 | Chatham, ON, CAN

Petteri Simila —— | 6' 6" | 189 | 9 avr. 1990 | 19 | Oulu, FIN

Robert Mayer —— | 6' 1" | 190 | 9 oct. 1989 | 19 | Havirov, CZE

[simonus]

Where's Pacioretty?

[KoZed]

Where's Pacioretty?

Fixed

[Natural Mystic]

Nice work. Thank you.

[Zowpeb]

ugh.

No better then last year...just different personnel, worse overall D and arguably an even smaller group of forwards (which is hard to believe was possible).

A little more potential on offense...however, it remains to be seen if Gomez can put up over 70 points and if Gionta can put up over 60 points (something they've only ever done ONCE - 4 YEARS AGO). Is this really THAT much better then Koivu and Kovalev???

Sure Cammalleri will produce more then Higgins did for the Habs...hence the likelihood that this is a little better team offensively. But it's also likely to have more defensive issues and get ground into the boards over the course of a season (let alone the playoffs).

Here's to hoping that the Kostsytsin brothers, Plekanec, Latendresse, Gorges and O'Byrne step up their games...at least 2-3 of those forwards and 1 of those d-men absolutely NEED to step up bigger for the Habs to be truly effective.

[BTH]

Why does the team HAVE to be that much better than it used to be? That old group of forwards won the Eastern Conference. If the only thing we've done is replace that old core, with slightly better - but much younger! - upgrades then it is mission accomplished.

As for the D, I think the arrival of Martin will counter any loss of talent. The players they have are fine, we just need to learn some team defense. I can not understand complaints about this team's defense. Go around the Eastern Conference and count me the teams with a better group of d-men than the Habs...

[saskhab]

A couple things:

David Fischer and Patrick Johnson aren't signed yet. Robert Mayer is signed. Marvin Degon isn't signed, he's in the same situation as Alex Perezhogin and Janne Lahti... we own their NHL rights, but have no contract in place with them.

Just put a couple of people in different groups and you've got it perfect.

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

Why does the team HAVE to be that much better than it used to be? That old group of forwards won the Eastern Conference. If the only thing we've done is replace that old core, with slightly better - but much younger! - upgrades then it is mission accomplished.

As for the D, I think the arrival of Martin will counter any loss of talent. The players they have are fine, we just need to learn some team defense. I can not understand complaints about this team's defense. Go around the Eastern Conference and count me the teams with a better group of d-men than the Habs...

Right on. I continue to be amazed at how people think re-signing a 35-year old Koivu and 36-year-old Kovalev to 3-4 year contracts was a good recipe for success going forward. Bob needed to do what he did, for no other reason than that the old core, whatever else you think of it, was simply too old to be re-signed.

My worry about the D is not so much talent as Spacek's age. He is projected to be a real key to our blueline, and he's entering the age when injuries tend to happen. I'll feel a lot better if one of the young D steps forward and establish himself, just to give us enough depth there to survive injuries. But you're right, injuries aside, in terms of overall team defence Martin's coaching should go a loooong way. And Gomez and Gionta, with their sparkly Cup rings from the ultimate defensive NHL franchise, will almost certainly help with the buy-in.

Edited July 6, 2009 by The Chicoutimi Cucumber

[KoZed]

A couple things:

David Fischer and Patrick Johnson aren't signed yet. Robert Mayer is signed. Marvin Degon isn't signed, he's in the same situation as Alex Perezhogin and Janne Lahti... we own their NHL rights, but have no contract in place with them.

Just put a couple of people in different groups and you've got it perfect.

I just pulled it off the Habs' own official website. Thought it was as accurate as it could be.

[JoeLassister]

Why does the team HAVE to be that much better than it used to be?

Dude, this is the Montreal Canadien. We're supposed to win the Cup every freaking season! Remember ?

[Seb]

A little more potential on offense...however, it remains to be seen if Gomez can put up over 70 points and if Gionta can put up over 60 points (something they've only ever done ONCE - 4 YEARS AGO). Is this really THAT much better then Koivu and Kovalev???

Gomez actually has 4 seasons of 70+ points, the latest being two years ago (his first of two with the Rangers).

Gionta has scored 60+ points twice, including 60 last year, and 89 (with 48 goals) four years ago.

Let's give these guys at least one or two seasons before getting on their backs: they're here for 5!

[Zowpeb]

Gomez actually has 4 seasons of 70+ points, the latest being two years ago (his first of two with the Rangers).

Gionta has scored 60+ points twice, including 60 last year, and 89 (with 48 goals) four years ago.

Let's give these guys at least one or two seasons before getting on their backs: they're here for 5!

Gomez has had 70 points exactly 3 times...I said over 70 points for that reason.

People seem to think he's a lock for an 80 point season and I just don't see it.

Gionta had 60 points once and 89 points 4 years ago...again he is no lock to put up 60 points.

If Gionta and Gomez each put up 60 and 70 points respectively they would hardly be considered an upgrade over Koivu and Kovalev...

I'm not getting on the backs of Gionta and Gomez...I am a little frustrated that some people are calling this some great upgrade...it remains to be seen if these 2 players can acheive an even higher level of success then they have in recent years. They may be younger then Koivu/Kovalev but they are veteran players.

The only legitimate upgrade appears to be Cammalleri over Higgins.

To get these 3 guys, Gill and Spacek we have essentially had to GIVE UP (through trade or unable to re-sign due to their incoming salaries):

Higgins, McDonagh, Valentenko, Komisarek, Koivu, Kovalev, Schneider, not to mention the additional economic, and future value, cost of carrying a contract like Gomez has.

So, 2 top 4 d-men, 3 mid-tier top 6 forwards, a blue chip prospect, a top 10 prospect (from a quality farm system) AND extra $$$ all for 3 mid-tier top 6 forwards, a 2nd pairing d-man and a final pairing d-man...

The pieces MAY fit better with the new players, and I'm willing to see it happen, but it seemed like a lot of blutser for nothing. Even if they could fit better together they need to find chemistry amongst a lot of new players slated to get a lot of minutes.

[Habsfan]

Gomez has had 70 points exactly 3 times...I said over 70 points for that reason.

People seem to think he's a lock for an 80 point season and I just don't see it.

Gionta had 60 points once and 89 points 4 years ago...again he is no lock to put up 60 points.

If Gionta and Gomez each put up 60 and 70 points respectively they would hardly be considered an upgrade over Koivu and Kovalev...

I'm not getting on the backs of Gionta and Gomez...I am a little frustrated that some people are calling this some great upgrade...it remains to be seen if these 2 players can acheive an even higher level of success then they have in recent years. They may be younger then Koivu/Kovalev but they are veteran players.

The only legitimate upgrade appears to be Cammalleri over Higgins.

Great post, I completely agree! If Gionta and Gomez can get 60 and 70 pointsd respectively, i,ll be satisfied. Not happy, but satisfied.

Edited July 6, 2009 by Habsfan

[Chris]

It's an upgrade simply due to youth and speed. I would expect a little more points once they are reunited but we'll see on that one.

The big upgrade is work ethic, dicipline, winning attitude and stanly cups.

Koivu and Kovalev haven't led this team anywhere.

[rafikz]

This is how I look at it:

This is a group with a different mentality, a group of solid pros (althout the K's brothers are a big question mark)

New culture, new approach; our guys will show up on a regular basis

[Habsfan]

I Just hope that the Kostitsyn's, Price, Gorges and company will party a little less!!!

[BTH]

Gomez has had 70 points exactly 3 times...I said over 70 points for that reason.

People seem to think he's a lock for an 80 point season and I just don't see it.

Gionta had 60 points once and 89 points 4 years ago...again he is no lock to put up 60 points.

If Gionta and Gomez each put up 60 and 70 points respectively they would hardly be considered an upgrade over Koivu and Kovalev...

I'm not getting on the backs of Gionta and Gomez...I am a little frustrated that some people are calling this some great upgrade...it remains to be seen if these 2 players can acheive an even higher level of success then they have in recent years. They may be younger then Koivu/Kovalev but they are veteran players.

The only legitimate upgrade appears to be Cammalleri over Higgins.

To get these 3 guys, Gill and Spacek we have essentially had to GIVE UP (through trade or unable to re-sign due to their incoming salaries):

Higgins, McDonagh, Valentenko, Komisarek, Koivu, Kovalev, Schneider, not to mention the additional economic, and future value, cost of carrying a contract like Gomez has.

So, 2 top 4 d-men, 3 mid-tier top 6 forwards, a blue chip prospect, a top 10 prospect (from a quality farm system) AND extra $$$ all for 3 mid-tier top 6 forwards, a 2nd pairing d-man and a final pairing d-man...

The pieces MAY fit better with the new players, and I'm willing to see it happen, but it seemed like a lot of blutser for nothing. Even if they could fit better together they need to find chemistry amongst a lot of new players slated to get a lot of minutes.

We had 10 UFA, many of them key players - we were going to lose players either way. If you were expecting Gainey to bring back the same players and then make an addition to improve the team, your expecttions were fantasies; we never even had the cap space to retain our top 5 UFA.

The Habs were in a very bad position going into free agency. Now, we have a slightly more talented team, a younger core and we finally flushed out the pathetic leadership group that has led this team for the past few years. What's the problem (other than the cap)?

I'm not saying that Gainey just made a Stanley Cup winning move. But he salvaged a relatively desperate situation. It's far better than I was expecting.

[Zowpeb]

It's an upgrade simply due to youth and speed. I would expect a little more points once they are reunited but we'll see on that one.

The big upgrade is work ethic, dicipline, winning attitude and stanly cups.

Koivu and Kovalev haven't led this team anywhere.

Perhaps, perhaps not...Gomez has been knocked by some media for a poor work ethic btw...

I'm not sure you can claim work ethic, discipline and winning attitude over Kovalev, Komisarek and Koivu...even if they haven't led the team anywhere.

For the record, I'm not saying we should have kept Koivu and Kovalev...I'm just not a fan that this direction is really much different and we're locked into it for a number of years.

[rafikz]

I Just hope that the Kostitsyn's, Price, Gorges and company will party a little less!!!

Gorges is not too bad; I think he played well for most of the games last season.

Of course, I still blame him for that game 1 loss vs Boston (dumb penalty).

[CoRvInA]

Alrighty then!

Who is plan B, C... for Defence then?

I would be willing to go with who is best in Hamilton along with having either Dandy, Bouillon or Brisebois to duel it for the 3rd pairing dman option, and hence the runner up becoming the 7th.

That could leave around 4 mil in cap space for whenever we need it.