DON Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't think it will help that much. We need some size on the top two lines. Padding out the fourth line is great, but it doesn't help with the top lines ability to win grinding games or deal with the brutal nature of the post season. Bottom six are the grinding positions, Datsyuk, Zetterberg don't grind so much. And Habs have Bourque-Galchenyuk-Eller + 3 small skilled players, pretty normal for most teams top 6 I think? A Pacioretty would be hard for any team to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 How about someone like Ryan Malone? We've done well with trades with Tampa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The problem is, and MB has stated this regularly, quality size doesn't grow on trees, and no one is willing to part with it if they have it. So while we'd all love to get big tough dudes, the reality is that this is still a transition year so a lot of positions were filled *as best they could be.* The only signing that's really poor, IMO, is the Brière signing - which was probably done with the aim of pacifying some of the angst-ridden fanbase as much as it was a hockey decision. And this year, that's okay! I know we all want to compete night in and night out and be up for the Cup every year, but to build a team capable of challenging consistently over the long-term takes time. Chicago had to ground out to get there. Detroit was a mess back in the Snorris days. We finished bottom three a mere two years ago. It's really *really* easy to get riled when we see games like the other night (well-coached team, that Nashville), but it really needs to be put into perspective. No matter how much we desperately want success now now now, what we really need is patience - because if we take a step back and look long and hard at the work that MB has done, I think most would agree we've taken huge strides in a very positive direction. (And we need to remember that EVERY GM makes horrible decisions.) My opinion? DD - not the greatest contract when taken in the context of this season's cap, but next year? Assuming *any* production whatsoever? Not the biggest issue. Parros - not my favourite, but I'll submit that, at this stage, he was a necessary signing. Bouillon - high-quality depth signing who's been *very* important. Murray and Drewskie - in today's NHL you need defensive depth, particularly since the red line is gone and the forwards attack the D with more speed than every before. While the latter adds very reasonable depth, the former does both that and the added bonus of a massive, and much needed mean streak. As for Brière - transition year. Might as well make people happy while taking a gamble on someone who *could* make a difference. Early days, time will tell on this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 How about someone like Ryan Malone? We've done well with trades with Tampa. The Habs have made 5 trades with Tampa Bay, 4 of which have involved minor league goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 EGG Bourque Pleks Gionta There 2 lines. They will be playing big minutes. 3rd line we have to go grinder for now, we don't have a 3rd scoring line at the moment. Moen White Blunden/Tarnarsky That leaves DD to center a jump line 4th with Bournival and Dumont it seems. I went into this season thinking we had depth, though inexperienced depth. Guess we are going to find out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 EGG Bourque Pleks Gionta There 2 lines. They will be playing big minutes. 3rd line we have to go grinder for now, we don't have a 3rd scoring line at the moment. Moen White Blunden/Tarnarsky That leaves DD to center a jump line 4th with Bournival and Dumont it seems. I went into this season thinking we had depth, though inexperienced depth. Guess we are going to find out now. Desharnais won't be demoted to fourth line minutes. Especially in this thin of a line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Desharnais won't be demoted to fourth line minutes. Especially in this thin of a line up. Would they move DD to the wing and have Bournival and White centre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Would they move DD to the wing and have Bournival and White centre? Not too sure on that one. I do really see some potential in Bournival though. If there was ever a time to prove his worth, its now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 How about someone like Ryan Malone? We've done well with trades with Tampa. I'd like Ryan Malone on this team just so that he can't turn into a wild animal against us. The man turns into a werewolf when playing Montreal. It's ridic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The problem is, and MB has stated this regularly, quality size doesn't grow on trees, and no one is willing to part with it if they have it. So while we'd all love to get big tough dudes, the reality is that this is still a transition year so a lot of positions were filled *as best they could be.* The only signing that's really poor, IMO, is the Brière signing - which was probably done with the aim of pacifying some of the angst-ridden fanbase as much as it was a hockey decision. And this year, that's okay! I know we all want to compete night in and night out and be up for the Cup every year, but to build a team capable of challenging consistently over the long-term takes time. Chicago had to ground out to get there. Detroit was a mess back in the Snorris days. We finished bottom three a mere two years ago. It's really *really* easy to get riled when we see games like the other night (well-coached team, that Nashville), but it really needs to be put into perspective. No matter how much we desperately want success now now now, what we really need is patience - because if we take a step back and look long and hard at the work that MB has done, I think most would agree we've taken huge strides in a very positive direction. (And we need to remember that EVERY GM makes horrible decisions.) My opinion? DD - not the greatest contract when taken in the context of this season's cap, but next year? Assuming *any* production whatsoever? Not the biggest issue. Parros - not my favourite, but I'll submit that, at this stage, he was a necessary signing. Bouillon - high-quality depth signing who's been *very* important. Murray and Drewskie - in today's NHL you need defensive depth, particularly since the red line is gone and the forwards attack the D with more speed than every before. While the latter adds very reasonable depth, the former does both that and the added bonus of a massive, and much needed mean streak. As for Brière - transition year. Might as well make people happy while taking a gamble on someone who *could* make a difference. Early days, time will tell on this one. 100% agree. Terrible luck to have all the signings injured at the same time. There weren't that many options available, particularly for a scoring forward, and signing Briere might also have been a reaction to Ryder's disappearing act in the playoffs. Hopefully, he will be able to come back and contribute. Failing that, regain his health. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'd like Ryan Malone on this team just so that he can't turn into a wild animal against us. The man turns into a werewolf when playing Montreal. It's ridic. Tampa needs size up front as much as we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 May as well ask now, who's covering tomorrow's GDT? Remember, it doesn't have to be anything fancy or detailed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'd like Ryan Malone on this team just so that he can't turn into a wild animal against us. The man turns into a werewolf when playing Montreal. It's ridic. Yes, he has thrown childish tantrums in past games when ego bruised (or flattened by Yemelin several times) and can easily be goaded into dumb penalties. It is much better for Habs to have him on opposing team. $4.5m/year is just wacky for a player like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Yes, he has thrown childish tantrums in past games when ego bruised (or flattened by Yemelin several times) and can easily be goaded into dumb penalties. It is much better for Habs to have him on opposing team. $4.5m/year is just wacky for a player like him. People wanted Erik Cole so bad because he used to always burn us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 People wanted Erik Cole so bad because he used to always burn us... I'll never forget when Cole gave Greg Kimmerly a high five after burying against Ottawa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Cole was so great for us that one year. It's a real shame he's evaporated since then - vintage Cole steaming down the wing would make a massive difference for this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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