gohabsgo252006 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 He played on Monday and didn't dress or play last night. Does anybody have any info on his status for tommorow night. We need him in the lineup desperately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 We definitely need him to make the PP work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 (edited) He played on Monday and didn't dress or play last night. Does anybody have any info on his status for tommorow night. We need him in the lineup desperately. You're kidding - right? I must have missed the fact that Markov was out last night. I thought I was depressed before. Now, matters are worse. Great. We are a dismal .250 in games without him. Edited March 22, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habzz22 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 back spasms came back...day to day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 i must admit i know virtually nothing about back spasms. How debilitating are they and how long do they tend to last? Is this indicative of a greater problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Back Spasm A spasm is a spontaneous, abnormal contraction of a muscle. When it occurs in the back near the spinal cord or the nerve roots, it can be very painful. Symptoms The patient feels a sudden pain in the lower back while twisting, pushing or pulling. At first, it may be possible to continue the exercise. But after two to three hours, bleeding in the muscles stretches the torn muscle and tendons. The spasm that results causes severe back pain that gets worse with any movement of the back. The patient usually prefers to lie still, curled up with the knees bent and the spine arched forward. Causes and Risk Factors Spasms happen often when a muscle is swollen and tender (inflamed) or strained. Any great force can tear the muscles and tendons of the lower back. This occurs commonly in sports like weight lifting, football, basketball, baseball or golf that require pushing or pulling or sudden twisting of the back. The risk of back spasm goes up if you have: * A pelvis that tips forward more than normal * Any back weakness such as arthritis, spondylolysis, spondylolisthesis, disk rupture, spinal stenosis or a tumor * Lordosis * Tight hamstrings, the tendons that run down the back of the legs * Weak or inflexible muscles along the spine * Weak stomach muscles Diagnosis A doctor will take the patient's medical history and do a physical examination. The exam may show tenderness at a specific point or a general spasm and tenderness in the back that gets worse with any movement, especially bending forward. Point tenderness on the spine with more pain when the spine is extended should be checked for fracture. Treatment As soon as possible after the injury, the patient should be treated with rest, ice and compression. Often conservative treatment is tried first. This includes muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatory medicine, pain management (injections) or chiropractic care. Lordosis increases stress on the muscles and ligaments that support the back. How much depends on the tilt of the pelvis. Once healing begins, most patients benefit from exercises to strengthen abdominal muscles and to stretch and strengthen back muscles to restore flexibility. This means he really shouldn't play until 100% healed. But we need him-bring on the dope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohabsgo252006 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 I agree, Dope him up He's still the best defeceman on the team even if he's high as a kite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 He's the key. If he's not back, we lose. It's practically guaranteed - especially given the little 'extra assistance' the Leafs tend to get from the refereeing in Leafs-Habs games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 but playing him (even doped up) leads to a higher risk of a tear... i don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah but he would have all summer to heal. I honestly do not know how as a coach you would make that decision. But I believe Markov will play Thursday and try to go Saturday as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 If this was the NFL, Markov would demand drugs so he could play. Team is everything.......... I don't want Markov hurt long term if he does play doped but the Habs really need him NOW. Our record without him is horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Are you guys serious about doping up Markov so he can play vs the Leafs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I played through back spasms during my senior year of football in HS. As a D-lineman, I could get away with it by moving from end to tackle: most of what I had to do was plug up the middle of the line on runs. But Markov, being a mobile defenseman, likely could not play effectively on muscle relaxers/painkillers. Twisting movements hurt the most, which defensemen must do often, and the mind-dulling effect of the painkillers would definitely lead to some very bad decisions. The good thing about back spasms is that they sometimes disappear quickly with treatment, and you can bet that the Habs have the very best in physiotherapy available to their players. Let's cross our fingers and say our prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 TEAM 990 said that Markov is unlikley and the Cube is for sure a no go Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Can I hop back on the bandwagon now? Don't mind me but I'm not happy. Not too many of us are at thre moment. There is only one hope. The Habs tend to snap right out of their slump and catch fire. It's their pattern to win 6 and lose 2 or 3, and then win 5 straight down the stretch. Unfortunately, the Leafs are on fire right now too. Chipchura is in Hamilton on a tryout but isn't signed so there is no solution there. The only player available who is worth calling up is Kostitsyn. We need goals! Besides, the Bulldogs are not going to qualify. I feel for Hamilton fans but the good news is some new young gems are coming next season. Let's hope that they can catch fire. I hope someone tells the players they are HOME :hlogo: There's lore that the H in the CH meant Home for the Forum. Somebody probably just made it up and it caught on. HOME :hlogo: HABITANT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohabsgo252006 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 RDS is reporting that Bouillon will not play tommorow but may possibly be back by Saturday. Rivet is still doubtful, and will be decided tommorow but he will likely play. Markov is day to day and will be a gametime decision, but the article seems to point in the direction of no (NOOOOOOO!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Rivet will not play tomorrow. Bouillon will not make it back in time for the Saturday night game. Markov will miss the entire Toronto series. and just ot be sure...... we will get killed in both games thanks to some great (hey, some things are inevitable no matter how much you jinx them) reffing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 THey'll be good games. These teams always get up for each other regardless of the season that the other is having. Now that the playoffs are on the line, it'll be that much more intense. I'm really looking forward to these two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan88 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Rivet will not play tomorrow. Bouillon will not make it back in time for the Saturday night game. Markov will miss the entire Toronto series. and just ot be sure...... we will get killed in both games thanks to some great (hey, some things are inevitable no matter how much you jinx them) reffing. Tell me you are kidding, BTH. Is that actual proof or is that just what you are predicting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haboholic Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Rivet is most likely to play out of all of them. Bouillon is for sure not playing tomorow, and Markov is game time decision! http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/200842.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalHab Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 we will get killed in both games thanks to some great (hey, some things are inevitable no matter how much you jinx them) reffing. Speaking of which.....does anyone know the over/under on how many 2-man advantages the Leafs will be awarded tomorrow? If it's only at 1.5, I'm betting the Over!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohabsgo252006 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Speaking of which.....does anyone know the over/under on how many 2-man advantages the Leafs will be awarded tomorrow? If it's only at 1.5, I'm betting the Over!! As a pretty good oddsmaker myself, I will but the number at 4, the total time (all of which will be killed off by our beloved habs) at 6 minutes approximately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalHab Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 As a pretty good oddsmaker myself, I will but the number at 4, the total time (all of which will be killed off by our beloved habs) at 6 minutes approximately. Wow, 4? You must have some inside info....is Dean Warren reffing again tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohabsgo252006 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 Wow, 4? You must have some inside info....is Dean Warren reffing again tomorrow? I'm not sure who is reffing, but given earlier games, and the importance of this game and that Toronto is close to the habs in the playoff race. We may see the bias be even more open. Let's hope not...but given the obviousness in the past, it wouldn't surprise me now. The only reason Toronto is still in it is because they have gotten something like 4 times more 5 on 3's this year than any other team in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalHab Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I'm not sure who is reffing, but given earlier games, and the importance of this game and that Toronto is close to the habs in the playoff race. We may see the bias be even more open. Let's hope not...but given the obviousness in the past, it wouldn't surprise me now. The only reason Toronto is still in it is because they have gotten something like 4 times more 5 on 3's this year than any other team in the league That would actually be quite an interesting stat to research. But where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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