Komisarek the Cruncher Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Savard is going as assistant coach with Therrien. http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/207619.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Oh snap...well thanks for the work Andre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Tough loss, as from what I gathered Savard was pretty good when it came it scouting and younger players? I could be wrong of course but I'm sure he'll be a good fit in Pittsburgh. Just about any of the staff that was around when Gainey came in has gone another way now (in one form or another). Anyhow, good luck to Savard in Pittsburgh! (But not too much luck) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Not necessarily the Habs news we've all been looking for. Tis a shame to see Andre go, but the Habs still have good personnel in the scouting department. I'm curious if there was a difference in opinion between the new regime and Gainey, as it seems their style of players are quite different from one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Terrible news. This guy helped to develop the Sens and helped to develop the Habs into a rising young club. If he wanted to coach, we should have given him the chance over Muller (but heck, Carbo has to go with his guys). I always had huge respect for Savard. The Habs have just lost a major brain. On the other hand, there's a bit of irony that he's now working for the coach he fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 This is a huge loss. Savard was the start of this organization being turned around from the Corey/Houle nightmare years. This is the most significant loss since Leclair/Dejardins for Mark Reechi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 This is one of the most shocking, from-left-field news I've seen in a while. I never thought Savard would want to leave a comfortable "suit" job to find himself behind a bench, especially not as an assistant-coach to a guy he fired before. Its odd. Savard's only experience as a coach was rather disastrous (Nords), and since then he's done some incredible work as a scout and executive. He's the one that suggested the Habs to bring Gainey as a GM. I dont know why or what made Savard leave. Was there some sort of dissention between him and Gainey or did Savard just wanted a different experience or a new challenge? Now Gainey has to find a new assistant. He also needs to find a new guy to oversee the development of our prospects and scout the QMJHL because that's what Savard was doing and its one of the most important part of the Habs. I'm anxious to find out more about this whole sudden change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Wow, HUGE LOSS for the Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneHABSfan Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I think I will join those that are shocked. There must of been a shakeout of some kind because he agreed to stay with the Habs when he stepped down for Gainey did he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) Therrien is getting a great guy to fill the ass. position's job,.....he is also giving an opportunity to someone that gaves him his first job in the NHL at the same time. Andre Savard came here when our roster on the main Club was in a terrible condition just as the one found in our farm team and when our financial capacity in trying to get better and compete under the old CBA to get UFAs or just plain keeping our owns was nil.........yet he found a way, thanks to its accute hockey sens, to bring-in the goods required to move forward in which,.....the Komisareks, the Higgins, the Perezhogins, the Plekanecs, the Kostitsyns and even the Begins( which he hard-pressed Gainey to get him off-waiver),...could all plays their very significant parts. Over-acheiving is the sens I have of himself,...considering the dire cirmsconstances in which he had to operate under here,.......its too bad that I cannot feel the same way about Gainey's work. Gainey has inherited a deluxe situation compared with Savard,.... all those youngs,......the financial parity with the big spenders of the league,....an almost immidiate access to the once in a life time number of UFAs avalaible during the lock-out years + the bought-out players option,....and now,...allready after his scond active season.......another post-season at hands.....yet it could have been called off before it even started.....that nagging feeling that Gainey is no Rutherford. Seeing what Savard was able to acheive with so little as a GM,... I can not refrain myself from fantaisising about what would have looked our Club next year if Savard had kepted navigating his ship during the favorable and ressources rich conditions that followed the GM position switch-over. Is this inter-season allready off for us ?.....all I know for shure is Savard's off to Pittsburg.....good luck and tanks for the good work. Edited July 3, 2006 by PB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I hope Pierre Gauthier stays on and doesn't follow Savard. I'm also sad about it. Not because it happened but...ONE MORE DRAFT. Just one more? No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 This makes me wonder if Savard actually stepped aside in favour of Gainey, or if he was moved aside by Boivin. I don't know about anyone else, but voluntarily going from a front office job to an assistant's job isn't exactly a step up the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 This makes me wonder if Savard actually stepped aside in favour of Gainey, or if he was moved aside by Boivin. I don't know about anyone else, but voluntarily going from a front office job to an assistant's job isn't exactly a step up the ladder. I think he agreed about being moved in favor of Gainey,....basicaly, he was moved so that Gainey (which I presume had just lost his job in Dallas) could get the job here in Montreal. Savard was utterly disapointed about the situation,....mostly that he wouldn't be able to grow along it's baby project and see the better days ahead. Moving from assistant manager to assistant coach the way he is now.. is most likely not a promotion neither,..but he might be happier there for some reasons or others......I hope we will get to know about it some days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 This makes me wonder if Savard actually stepped aside in favour of Gainey, or if he was moved aside by Boivin. I don't know about anyone else, but voluntarily going from a front office job to an assistant's job isn't exactly a step up the ladder. Basically, the situation was that Savard had too many responsabilities and couldn't do everything he wished; so he went to Boivin and suggested hiring Gainey as a GM so he (Savard) could concentrate more on the scoutin/developing part of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I'm saddened by this development. Yet, I also recognize that this kind of business is rife with continuous movements. Long-term continuity isn't characteristic of a team's staff. Rare are the Steve Yzermans, the Lou Lamoriellos, the Bobby Clarkes, the Mario Lemieuxs, etc. This is very likely a bad development for our team but it's not that suprising a development. The reasons, the circumstances, the people involved may change but this kind of thing is no change in itself. :king: :hlogo: :king: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 François Gagnon of Cyberpresse purports the Habs are close to hiring André Savard's replacement. Sans Ligne Rouge The "surprise" scout is said to have his ear to ground of Québecois talent -- unlike, Gagnon asserts, André Savard. Picking Eric Chouinard over Simon Gagné in '98, and overlooking Patrice Bergeron in '03 are faults Gagnon cites in the departed assistant general manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 François Gagnon of Cyberpresse purports the Habs are close to hiring André Savard's replacement. Sans Ligne Rouge The "surprise" scout is said to have his ear to ground of Québecois talent -- unlike, Gagnon asserts, André Savard. Picking Eric Chouinard over Simon Gagné in '98, and overlooking Patrice Bergeron in '03 are faults Gagnon cites in the departed assistant general manager. Chouinard in 98? AS was there??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 IF savard was there, his job was to scout in the toronto-buffalo area since he was living there. I really think he was hired in 1999-00. yet savard was never chief scout so I cant blame him for chouinard( it was houle who wanted him so bad) or bergeron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 (edited) AS was there??? Conjecture on my part. As profiled right here Savard only joined the Habs in any capacity on July 14, 2000. I got caught up in Gagnon's heavy, pro-québecois scapegoating. Edited July 20, 2006 by MCeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is not good. Andre Savard was huge for our development group and staff. Habs will find a replacement, but we will only know if that was the right choice two years from now after we draft the next batches of rooks'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 le Journal de Montréal Habs are close to hiring a scout to cover the QMJHL -- Michel Boucher is the principal candidate. His resumé includes having worked as the Kings' scout in the Q the past few seasons, and as the general manager of the Trois-Rivières "Draveurs" (QMJHL). Montreal's head scout Trevor Timmins declined to divulge names of other candidates. A near-explanation is given for the Habs' overlooking Q talent during André Savard's tenure: Timmins mainly prospected with an international scope; Savard was first and foremost Bob Gainey's right hand man and general manager of the Hamilton farm club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 The more I think about it, the less sense Savard's move makes. He said in an interview upon leaving that his ultimate goal is to be a GM again. But how does becoming an assistant coach to that idiot Therrien move him closer to the big chair than being Bob Gainey's right hand man? When Therrien is fired, Savard will likely go with him...and then what? Clearly (despite the official story that stepping aside for Gainey was Savard's own idea) Savard was shunted aside to make room for Bob back in 2000. The humbled Savard gave it a good try as Gainey's lackey, but must have lost some power struggle or other within the Canadiens' operation (e.g., among rivals who also wanted Gainey's ear); or else he and Gainey just couldn't see eye to eye on key issues and Savard got disgusted and left. That, or he was a quiet, strategic scapegoat for the lack of quebecois talent in the organization, although I find this hard to believe, since neither Gilette nor Gainey seem concerned about that. All I can say is, they'd better not hire a specialist in Quebec drafting to replace him, unless that guy is the very best person for ALL of the duties that go with Savard's old job description. Fingers crossed on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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