Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yes Pronger is a once in generation defenseman. I hope Tinordi can be 1/4 Pronger. I see him more of a Derian Hatcher but made for the modern game. Tinordi can skate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I see him more of a Derian Hatcher but made for the modern game. Tinordi can skate. And I bet he can hold a pen as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willey101 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Leafs vs Canadiens scouting staffs List of Montreals amateur scouts: (GOHABS.COM) Trevor Timmins Director of Player Recruitment and Development Frank Jay Amateur Scout Serge Boisvert Amateur Scout Ryan Jankowski Amateur Scout Michel Boucher Amateur scout - Quebec Mike McCann Amateur scout - Ontario Elmer Benning Amateur Scout - Western Canada William A. Berglund Amateur Scout - Eastern U.S. Pat Westrum Amateur Scout - Western U.S. Hannu Laine Amateur Scout - Finland Christer Rockstrom Scout (Europe) List of Toronto's Amateur scouting staff: (Leafs4life.net) Dave Morrison - Director of Amateur Scouting Mike Palmateer - Amateur Scout George Armstrong - Amateur Scout John Lilley - Amateur Scout Garth Malarchuk - Amateur Scout Alan Power - Amateur Scout Gary Harker - Amateur Scout Scott Carter - Amateur Scout Pierre Rioux - Amateur Scout Roy Stasiuk - Amateur Scout John McMorrow - Amateur Scout Darryl Stanley - Amateur Scout Bud Stefanski - Amateur Scout Dave Starman - Amateur Scout Joe Gibbs - European Scout Thommie Bergman - European Scout Jari Gronstrand - European Scout Peter Ihnacak European Scout Nikolai Ladygin - European Scout The Canadiens - 11 Staff members The Leafs - 19 Staff members Red Wings - 14 Staff members All I'm saying is a team with our resources should have more scouts then anyone. It's one advantage in a salary cap world that we should exploit so we can get the best players possible. http://leafs4life.ne...eaf-management/ http://www.gohabs.com/staff.htm http://redwings.nhl....ge.htm?id=44061 Quality vs quantity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Most people seem to agree that they like Timmins, the problem as I see it, can the new GM live with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Most people seem to agree that they like Timmins, the problem as I see it, can the new GM live with him? What would make you believe he might ever be let go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Most people seem to agree that they like Timmins, the problem as I see it, can the new GM live with him? Answer seems be a resounding yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Answer seems be a resounding yes. He also said, "Timmins is doing too many jobs" in a way that wasn't saying, "I'm slowly letting him go" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 He also said, "Timmins is doing too many jobs" in a way that wasn't saying, "I'm slowly letting him go" Hes actually right about that. Timmins should be head scout. Not Head Scout plus Director of player development. Let the guy focus on what he does best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Hes actually right about that. Timmins should be head scout. Not Head Scout plus Director of player development. Let the guy focus on what he does best. Absolutely. I don't think anyone disagreed with the fact that we needed a real Director of Player Development. Unless Hal Gill retires after the Preds get bounced I suggest Patrice Brisebois for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Absolutely. I don't think anyone disagreed with the fact that we needed a real Director of Player Development. Unless Hal Gill retires after the Preds get bounced I suggest Patrice Brisebois for the job. I want Gill in the organization so bad! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Looks like Bergevin also likes Timmins cause he said he'd be there on draft day! Now all we have to do is work on our Pro-scouts. THat's one area where the Habs have sucked over the past decade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Looks like Bergevin also likes Timmins cause he said he'd be there on draft day! Now all we have to do is work on our Pro-scouts. THat's one area where the Habs have sucked over the past decade! He did say that, but I don't think he knows him. He's not going to replace him a few weeks before the draft. He has yet to evaluate the people in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thib46 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Bergevin also said he thinks Timmins may have too much on his plate and he would look to evaluate his responsibilities. He said this as a comparison as to how Chicago deals with player development and player evaluation. He seems to want more people involved and then have these people concentrate on specific duties, good approach in my opinion. Leadership 101, when taking a new position of leadership, step back evaluate what you have in place and then take action where necessary to make the team better.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 He did say that, but I don't think he knows him. He's not going to replace him a few weeks before the draft. He has yet to evaluate the people in place. Bergevin said that Timmins record over the last several years is very good. He knows who is drafting well and who isn't in the NHL. Wouldn't take long to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willey101 Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Do you think bergevin tries to make a splash right out the gate and trades away the pick? I mean at 33 we'd still be getting a decent player right? Wonder if he'll deal 3 and then use 33 to move up slightly and draft a kid like Wilson or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Do you think bergevin tries to make a splash right out the gate and trades away the pick? I mean at 33 we'd still be getting a decent player right? Wonder if he'll deal 3 and then use 33 to move up slightly and draft a kid like Wilson or something? Highly doubt he is trading #3? Just too many super looking prospects in top 5 to pass over. Already have a Wilson or 2 in the system, Staubitz/Shultz/Conboy, 9 goals in regular season in junior dosent translate to a 1st round pick. But some team will pick him too high, only becasue he is big and fights, same as Rangers with McIlrath in 2010, who is an OK and very tough d-man but shouldnt of gone 10th; or Dallas with Oleksiak last year, who is frickin huge, but likely a very long term project and Andy Sutton type of player. Hab can get just as tough a player in 2nd round, with Lukas Sutter who can fight and score or Dalton Thrower who also plays with Saskatoon and fought Wilson at prospects game, but he is a 20 goal scoring d-man, and at least one of these 2 will be available at 33rd. But i would bet Timmins will make a swap at draft, but whether it will be up or down this time is only question. (Last year traded down for extra picks and year before traded up to get Tinordi) It may depend on whether a guy high on his list slides, say a Gaunce/Collberg is still available at 22nd, he may toss 2 or 3 picks in to get him?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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