sakiqc Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 M-A Bergeron was given the green light from doctors. His knee is 100% healthy.. will Gauthier sign him? If they wait for Markov's exam results and/or give Weber a week or two to see how he fares, they might lose their chance on MAB. I have only been able to watch a few minutes of Habs games this week. How is Weber looking? MAB ready: http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/310515.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 If there was ever a move that I didn't want to happen it would be to sign MAB. Sure, he could potentially help the PP, but he is absolutely brutal defensively. The ends don't justify the means on this one. He was a sexy -12 in 19 playoff games last year and looks like a beer league player the way the opposition goes around him as if he weren't there. I can't remember a player I've cursed as much as MAB last year. No need to panic at this point in the season, Picard is playing well and Weber hasn't had a chance yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 If someone really, I mean really, wanted Bergeron, they'd have signed him before the season started and just IR'ed him. The number of teams who will even call to inquire can probably be counted on one hand and that may be even excluding the thumb. He's a fringe d-man who can shoot. Given the right situation, he can thrive, he showed that last year. Montreal isn't that situation now, they need a minute muncher to spell the trio of aging vets and Bergeron, fresh off ACL surgery which probably will hinder his skating, can't do that. Someone will sign him, but right now, I'd be surprised if it was Montreal unless they've completely given up on Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Watching the failed Weber-as-a-forward experiment, I'm even more so inclined to want to see Martin roll 4 complete forward lines and stick with 6 D. MAB isn't good enough to be one of those 6 D so he can sign elsewhere. An amazing shot isn't enough to warrant a roster spot in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Habs will not make an offer for Bergeron. No surprise really. http://twitter.com/renhockey/status/7910474318356482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Habs will not make an offer for Bergeron. No surprise really. http://twitter.com/renhockey/status/7910474318356482 Good to hear. Side note: is it really so hard to tweet something coherent? This one sounds like someone is ordering Gauthier to call MAB's agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Good to hear. Side note: is it really so hard to tweet something coherent? This one sounds like someone is ordering Gauthier to call MAB's agent. This was his translation of his french tweet, that one seemed more coherent, at least to a non-french speaker like myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I liked Bergeron. He did some good things for us last year (13 goals, helped the PP), however, like illWill said, he was -12 in 19 games last year. Glad to hear the habs won't sign him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCPetit Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Watching the failed Weber-as-a-forward experiment, I'm even more so inclined to want to see Martin roll 4 complete forward lines and stick with 6 D. MAB isn't good enough to be one of those 6 D so he can sign elsewhere. An amazing shot isn't enough to warrant a roster spot in my opinion. Too early to say that the experiment has failed IMO. We will Weber on the wing again, I am quite sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Too early to say that the experiment has failed IMO. We will Weber on the wing again, I am quite sure. If the winger is only going to play 6 minutes per game like Darche did last night, may as well give Weber the odd game here and there in that role knowing he could give the vets a shift off here and there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Too early to say that the experiment has failed IMO. We will Weber on the wing again, I am quite sure. And I am equally sure that he won't work out again. Weber is still learning the NHL game from a D perspective. To have him try and learn the wing position at the NHL level just seems unreasonable to me. It's a matter of personal preference, I suppose. I prefer the Habs to have competent wingers that have experience and are comfortable in the position. Silly, I know. That being said, I'd like to see how Weber plays on D when someone needs a night off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCPetit Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 And I am equally sure that he won't work out again. Weber is still learning the NHL game from a D perspective. To have him try and learn the wing position at the NHL level just seems unreasonable to me. It's a matter of personal preference, I suppose. I prefer the Habs to have competent wingers that have experience and are comfortable in the position. Silly, I know. That being said, I'd like to see how Weber plays on D when someone needs a night off. Don't worry, somebody will get hurt or sick. It always happens. Weber will get his chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 MAB has one of the best shots in the league. He surely could have helped our struggling PP. MAB will join the growing list of ex-Habs that were left off as scrap and went to be very successful elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 MAB has one of the best shots in the league. He surely could have helped our struggling PP. MAB will join the growing list of ex-Habs that were left off as scrap and went to be very successful elsewhere. If and when he finds a taker, maybe, but I'd be surprised to see him in an NHL uniform before the new year. He has a good shot but can the Habs afford to have a d-man who can only play about 8 minutes a game? Especially with Markov out, they simply can't. As for recent ex-Habs left off the scrap heap, there aren't too many successful ones...some yes, but a lot have seemingly vanished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 If and when he finds a taker, maybe, but I'd be surprised to see him in an NHL uniform before the new year. He has a good shot but can the Habs afford to have a d-man who can only play about 8 minutes a game? Especially with Markov out, they simply can't. As for recent ex-Habs left off the scrap heap, there aren't too many successful ones...some yes, but a lot have seemingly vanished. What about Robidas, Bouillon and Beauchemin? The best example is Robidas, who is a beast with the Stars.. QB on the PP, eats minutes, league leading hitter etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 What about Robidas, Bouillon and Beauchemin? The best example is Robidas, who is a beast with the Stars.. QB on the PP, eats minutes, league leading hitter etc Robidas and Beauchemin were youngsters when they were let go; Bergeron is 30, a UFA for the 3rd time in his career, and coming off major knee surgery. Just a bit of difference. As for Bouillon, he's a 3rd pairing d-man, still a legit NHL'er, but hardly anyone worth worrying too much about. Just like Bergeron, not worth worrying about - he'll do fine I'm sure in a niche role but the Habs' needs on D exceed that of a niche d-man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 M-A Bergeron perfect scenario team. One that has 3 top 20 min or more ice time lines, and where Bergeron would be the 7th dressed dman that gets 3 shifts or less as a 4th line winger. But gets used on the first PP wave every time What teams meet those criteria? Alternative: A team like NYI and Edmonton that have nothing to lose and will welcome 10 more PP goals at the expense of 20, 5 on 5 goals against Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Can Florida fit him in? Their PP is a historically bad 6.1% right now. If they don't watch out soon, they'll be in that nothing to lose category that Edmonton and NYI find themselves in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 A full month and still no NHL deal (that's what you get for demanding a multi-year deal coming off ACL surgery) but Bergeron has surfaced with Genf Servette HC for this week's Spengler Cup. That team isn't in the same division as Canada but the teams could meet once the medal round begins which starts tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 1 year, $1 mil to Tampa. A two-way contract (105k in the AHL) to boot, holding out for that multi-year deal didn't seem to do him much good. My prediction that it'd take him until 2011 to sign proved to be true at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 Good fit in Tampa! Their PP will be lethal! Bergeron-Lecavalier, Malone-Stamkos-St.Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 He'll be waived tomorrow as the Lightning feel he'll take a lot longer than a conditioning stint to get him into shape. So he may not even be there for long, could be somewhere else at noon on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrhabs Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 So MAB is going to a cup contender ....interesting, good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan84 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 There's Yzerman again, trying to build a team of former Habs. Good signing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Help me out here...how come when MAB plays for us, he is derided as a disaster in his own end and a veritable liability, but when Yzerman signs him, it's a great managerial move - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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