dlbalr Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Another prospect puts pen to paper as Patrick Holland signs a 3 year deal beginning in 2012-13. That makes it 5 possible Hamilton-bound rookies next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsTrick450 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Does he have NHL potential? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think his stats, though nice, are really over-inflated relative to what they'd be if he was the guy on a line so I think people need to keep their expectations in check. He has succeeded as a checking forward in junior though which gives me hope that he could be a bottom six guy with a bit of offensive potential down the road. My guess is that he's a better version of Ben Maxwell. Quick write-up on the deal: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2751 When contract details are available, I'll add them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 So fair to say that all 5 Hamilton UFA's will not be be back next season? Plus a couple RFA's going untendered (Mitera, Slaney)? Gotta make room for the contracts of Tinordi, Gallagher, Bournival, and Ellis, plus probable guys like Beaulieu, Pateryn and Kristo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think it's too early to make that call on the UFA's. A team that's as young as Hamilton looks like they'll be will want some veterans to help shoulder the load. Whether or not that will include any of their unrestricted guys remains to be seen (I'd be throwing good money at Stafford to keep him around) but I think they'll make space for a couple of veteran guys. You noted Slaney and Mitera as likely to be non-tendered, I'd add Bishop to that list for sure as well while Nokelainen to me is almost a sure non-tender with the Habs. There won't be much room for dead weight guys though, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Happy to see this kid signed. Hope he turns out to be an nhler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Happy to see this kid signed. Hope he turns out to be an nhler. He is a great skater and seems very defensively smart, so a future as a 3rd/4th line NHL is a good bet (but i am always overly optimistic). I have seen play several games and every one he was a stand out, with the announcers always throwing glowing remarks at his play and last night he played vs Gallagher and Vancouver Giants and had 2 assists in a 2-1 win, so again he must of be a game star. I will be very curious to see how he does in AHL next fall, he/Kristo/Gallagher/Bournival/Trunev/Quailer should add some life to that team and with Tinordi/Beaulieu/Pateryn added on the back end, should be interesting and good competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 Early indications is that this will be a somewhat bonus-laden deal. A base of around $550k but a cap hit of $900k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 We should start calling players like Holland the "Gorges of the deal". That guy who isn't the focus of the trade who might become it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 We should start calling players like Holland the "Gorges of the deal". That guy who isn't the focus of the trade who might become it. i love every part of that deal, Bourque is big body, physical/bit dirty, great skater and good PK guy at fair price, a likely early 2nd round pick, Holland and best of all shedding a major overpaid underachiever with a huge ego and less grit than even Kessel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 I'll be adding it to the site shortly but his deal is identical to Ellis' pact from the NHL salary to the AHL salary to the bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davehab Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I'll be adding it to the site shortly but his deal is identical to Ellis' pact from the NHL salary to the AHL salary to the bonuses. i dont think we thank you enought for all the extra stuff you do around here...... so thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I think it's too early to make that call on the UFA's. A team that's as young as Hamilton looks like they'll be will want some veterans to help shoulder the load. Whether or not that will include any of their unrestricted guys remains to be seen (I'd be throwing good money at Stafford to keep him around) but I think they'll make space for a couple of veteran guys. You noted Slaney and Mitera as likely to be non-tendered, I'd add Bishop to that list for sure as well while Nokelainen to me is almost a sure non-tender with the Habs. There won't be much room for dead weight guys though, that's for sure. I get that it is too early. Since you have included Nokelainen, I am wondering about Conboy, Fortier at AHL level and Darche/Staubitz/Blunden and Engqvist? Any thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 i dont think we thank you enought for all the extra stuff you do around here...... so thanks Thanks for the kind words. I get that it is too early. Since you have included Nokelainen, I am wondering about Conboy, Fortier at AHL level and Darche/Staubitz/Blunden and Engqvist? Any thoughts I think both Conboy/Fortier get qualified. Both have shown positive signs at times this year and neither will get snatched off waivers, they could be some of the veteran depth. I think Darche ultimately re-signs with the Habs. Staubitz is a toss up, depends on whether or not the new coach wants a goon. Blunden could be non-qualified or could stick as a 13th forward...or be waived for Hamilton, no clue there. I can't see them not qualifying Engqvist; even if he wants to go back overseas, they can do what they did with Klubertanz - qualify him and hold his rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Did they qualify Boyd and Dawes last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Did they qualify Boyd and Dawes last year? Boyd was a UFA regardless, Dawes much to my surprise went unqualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 I think both Conboy/Fortier get qualified. Both have shown positive signs at times this year and neither will get snatched off waivers, they could be some of the veteran depth. I think Darche ultimately re-signs with the Habs. Staubitz is a toss up, depends on whether or not the new coach wants a goon. Blunden could be non-qualified or could stick as a 13th forward...or be waived for Hamilton, no clue there. I can't see them not qualifying Engqvist; even if he wants to go back overseas, they can do what they did with Klubertanz - qualify him and hold his rights. Didn't they tell Blunden to "get an apartment" in Montreal? I would think that means he's more likely to re-sign than be non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 10, 2012 Author Share Posted March 10, 2012 Didn't they tell Blunden to "get an apartment" in Montreal? I would think that means he's more likely to re-sign than be non-tendered. They did that with Pyatt too and he wound up non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 Didn't they tell Blunden to "get an apartment" in Montreal? I would think that means he's more likely to re-sign than be non-tendered. all that "get an apartment" means is that you are likely to be on the team for the rest of the season. No guarantees for next year. However I bet they sign him, he wasn't a bad 4th liner and brings some physical play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsprospects Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Boyd was a UFA regardless, Dawes much to my surprise went unqualified. They both were RFA that didn't get qualifying offers. Edited March 11, 2012 by habsprospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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