Guest Stogey24 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 PP TOI per game last year: Galchenyuk: 2:02 (fourth highest among full-season Montreal forwards) Eller: 1:06 Gionta: 1:25 Gionta getting 19 seconds per game more than Eller isn't that bad, especially when you consider that Eller had two goals in the final four months of the season and really should have been seeing even less time on the PP. I know Gionta put up 18 goals,but he was dump and chase player last year. He basically turned into a little grinder. There was no reason for him to get any PP time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Courtnell had skill, a decent shot and was lightening quick. His problem was that his feet were quicker than his hands or his brain. I think of Russ Courtnall when I think of Weise. Couldn't score if his life depended on it, but frequently terrorized defenders by streaking past and going on goalies alone. If nothing else he kept the defenseman honest and when he did score it was huge. That is how I invision Weise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 I know Gionta put up 18 goals,but he was dump and chase player last year. He basically turned into a little grinder. There was reason for him to get any PP time. He's a right hand shot on a team that for most of the season, was lacking in terms of right hand shots that could produce offensively. That alone was justification for him to get what amounted to secondary PP time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 just because the stat book says Russ Courtnall averaged 20 goals throughout his career, it doesn't mean he was your typical 20 goal man. I agree that he couldn't score if his life depended on it. he had several breakaways a game and could not bury. for the number of high quality chances he got, he should've been a 50 goal man at least twice and averaged 35 throughout his career. does he compare to Weise though? no, they're different players altogether..in fact I don't recall seeing Russ Courtnall throwing one bodycheck in his career. but yes, they're both blazing fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I don't think you and I remember the same Russ Courtnall. 1986 - 22 goals 1987 - 29 goals 1988 - 23 goals 1989 - 23 goals 1990 - 27 goals 1991 - 26 goals 1993 - 36 goals 1994 - 23 goals 1996 - 26 goals At only 5'11", 175 lbs, and a career 65 points, 20+ goals per season guy, Courtnall and Weise have very little in common. Don't get me wrong, I love Weise, but apart from being ridiculously fast, they don't have much in common. Yeah. Weise was put in defensive roll and has never got beyond that. Yeah Courtnall put up some nice numbers but I remember him missing three or four times before he ever got one in . Agreed his feet. I am just saying Weise could be like that if he was given that opportunity maybe? I loved Russ but he frustrated me more often than not. Jjust saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 I see one prediction for Sekac in this thread so far, anyone else care to guess his numbers? I have him around 25 points. My write-up on him and other prospects: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=3493 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I see one prediction for Sekac in this thread so far, anyone else care to guess his numbers? I have him around 25 points. My write-up on him and other prospects: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=3493 45 GP, 3 goals and 8 assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 45 GP, 3 goals and 8 assists. lol. No love eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 we don't know enough of sekac to give an accurate point prediction. let's just wait to see whether or not he makes the team first? maybe we'll know more after the exhibition gms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 lol. No love eh? Lovett has been irrationally hating Sekac in every thread and response about Jiri, as well as proving Lovett has never seen a single iota of Sekac play. Just a bunch of rants about how he isn't tough enough for third line duty and we're being ridiculous on expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Lovett has been irrationally hating Sekac in every thread and response about Jiri, as well as proving Lovett has never seen a single iota of Sekac play. Just a bunch of rants about how he isn't tough enough for third line duty and we're being ridiculous on expectations. Thank you.... especially about the irrational part.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Plekanec had 9goals and 20 assists in 67 games, first full season. Is likely good comparison. So say, Sekac 7goals/12assists in 60 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Plekanec had 9goals and 20 assists in 67 games, first full season. Is likely good comparison. So say, Sekac 7goals/12assists in 60 games. How/Why is plekanec a comparable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Tomas was established couple year pro in AHL, birthplace and so I see 1st year NHL production likely be very similar or touch lower. dlbalr asked for wild guess and I say <20points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Lovett has been irrationally hating Sekac in every thread and response about Jiri, as well as proving Lovett has never seen a single iota of Sekac play. Just a bunch of rants about how he isn't tough enough for third line duty and we're being ridiculous on expectations. I have him at 182 lbs at development camp. Hopefully he has made some gains on that. Short of that he will have a long stint with the Bulldogs, regardless of how much talent he may have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 If Pacioretty or Galchenyuk go down and he gets to steal their top six minutes: 48 pointsIf he adjusts to the NHL game quickly and finds chemistry with someone fast: 38 points If he doesn't adjust quickly but does prove he can play top nine hockey: 28 points If he spends half of his time in the AHL until moving up to get some gametime: 18 points If he spends most of his time in the AHL since the roster stays healthy and he doesn't steal a spot in exhibition: 8 points To be conservative, I'll take the 28 point prediction. I have high hopes for him and think he could keep Eller honest all season long. He won't get much PP time with Pacioretty and Galchenyuk taking up the LW time and Gallagher/Parenteau taking up the RW time. 28 points but will impress with 16 goals on zero PP minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Lovett has been irrationally hating Sekac in every thread and response about Jiri, as well as proving Lovett has never seen a single iota of Sekac play. Just a bunch of rants about how he isn't tough enough for third line duty and we're being ridiculous on expectations. That's not true. With the exception of the Worlds, i've seen and read as much as anyone here. Keep in mind, the last player I was this down on was Eller, and we've seen how that has worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Tomas was established couple year pro in AHL, birthplace and so I see 1st year NHL production likely be very similar or touch lower. dlbalr asked for wild guess and I say <20points. Just wondering... I've never seen the guy play, besides camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Again, just a wild guess. I imagine I have seen same video as you have. But, hope he rips off 15+goals, but doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 That's not true. With the exception of the Worlds, i've seen and read as much as anyone here. Keep in mind, the last player I was this down on was Eller, and we've seen how that has worked out. So if we get lucky you could be wrong on both counts in one post. DYNOMITE. just kidding it's august Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 we all seem to have penned sekac in on the plekanecs line, but we don't even know if he can handle playing with pleks line yet? who knows, maybe rocky balboa can defend better than sekac? mt might want to take a look at his offensive potential by giving him some early pp time? this kids just come outta nowhere, and I sure hope he's that hidden gem that we need. playing him with pleks may not suit his game, who knows? we're getting closer to finding out that's for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 this kids just come outta nowhere, and I sure hope he's that hidden gem that we need. playing him with pleks may not suit his game, who knows? we're getting closer to finding out that's for sure! That's the thing - he came out of nowhere for us, but the rest of the league seemed rather hyped on this guy. He picked the Habs out of 15 teams trying to get him into the NHL this year. It doesn't seem he was all that well hidden from the hockey world in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 yep, that's why i'm thinking he may be a skilled offensive player and maybe he shouldn't be on a checking line? I guess we'll see in a few weeks..i can't wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 So how about Malhotra and Gilbert? I'm interested in seeing how these proven/actual NHLers are going to help the team. I think having Malhotra play over someone like Ryan White will be a big boon to the team. Maybe if we can get Plekanec away from some of his defensive responsibilities, he'll increase his scoring. Malhotra is a faceoffs whiz, something we badly need. Galchenyuk/Plekanec/Parentau could be a really good line if they aren't buried every other shift. I like Gilbert over Gorges. I think having Markov/Emelin/Gorges made the team too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 @ICEWATER77: Everything I've read calls him a two-way player, in addition to skilled offense. I also believe that people keep putting him with Plekanec for a couple of other reasons: (1) Despite his growing role as a shut-down checking forward, Plekanec is the second most gifted offensive center on the team (behind Desharnais), and Sekac would have more opportunity to score there than with Eller or Malhotra (that may change if they move Galchenyuk to Centre.) (2) The Czech connection. There's this unfounded and yet compelling gut feeling that sticking two guys from the same home town of Kladno, Czech Republic together on the same line will create some special chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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