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Everything posted by illWill

  1. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Re: Tavares Mr. Lovett, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Billy Madison is one of my favorite movies
  2. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    It's going to be a looong August
  3. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    To Philly: Lehkonen, Lindgren and a 1st To Montreal: Giroux (some salary retained) Or To Vancouver: Plekanec, Scherbak and a 2nd To Montreal: The Sedins
  4. 2017-18 Line-up

    I picture you wearing cardigans and sipping expensive brandy scrolling this site from your home library. I'm sure what we imagine a person looks like is nothing like what they actually do though. Here's a pic of me doing my best Pacioretty impression: P.S Hair may have been MS painted on
  5. The entire defense plus depth has to be looked at rather than just a few players in order to properly compare.
  6. Yes but our 1 top pair and 2 second pair defensemen are top notch. And I also believe whoever wins the 3rd pairing will also be one of the better in the league. So yes, we don't have a quality #1 LHD, but everyone else slots in great where they are supposed to. And they also have a lot of depth which goes a long way during the season and playoffs as we all know. In my opinion the Habs have a better defense than: Buffalo Carolina Colorado Dallas Detroit Edmonton New Jersey Islanders Philly Toronto Vancouver Las Vegas And you can argue that they are better than: Chicago Boston Arizona Florida L.A Pittsburgh Tampa Washington Winnipeg But they are not better than: Anaheim Calgary Columbus Minnesota Nashville Rangers Ottawa San Jose St. Louis Perhaps the Habs defense is a bit better than you think after comparing it to the rest of the league.
  7. That's like saying a team missing a top line left winger can't be an above average team. The statement is about the defense as a whole, not who slots in where. If they had Weber, Doughty and Burns playing RHD, but had no top line LHD could they still be above average? At the very least the Habs have an average defense as it stands
  8. A team can't realistically be expected to be stacked everywhere in a salary cap world. Adding an elite center to the existing forward group would put them among the best in the league, the goalie is arguably the best, and the defense is above average. Seems like a great team to me. Now acquiring said elite center without subtracting anything from the lineup is another topic.
  9. It would be a hell of a time to offer sheet Draisaitl
  10. This team suddenly went from very Russian to not so much Russian. Radulov, Sergachev, Emelin and now Markov gone. I hate seeing Markov gone but at least we don't have to see him in another NHL Jersey. It will be very interesting now to see how that cap space will be used. I think the defense isn't great but it's fine as it is and if somehow an 8 million dollar center fell from the sky this team would be dangerous.
  11. I had yet another long response to this but decided to delete it. I'm done, have fun on this topic. I don't know how much I have to repeat myself. If a fan base can't appreciate the results that have been had, then maybe that fan base doesn't deserve them.
  12. If you're not privy to the conversations at hand then why do you have such a negative opinion of how he operates? Get it done? How about not getting ripped off in a transaction? I've yet to see that happen yet with this management. It's just another case of an armchair GM calling the shots from the sidelines.
  13. Is Julien a bad hire? Tell me who else he should have hired. Two coaches now have moved Galchenyuk to the wing. Whose fault is that, the player, coach or GM? Your list of "#1" centers being our best is again an indictment of Galchenyuk, not Bergevin. Yes we had a Seth Jones, but he was a million times more expensive, thus a million times harder to move for a proven #1 center. What was the trade he could have made? And lots of people love the Weber trade, so don't act like it sucked because he is 3 and a half years older. 6 off seasons and still a competitive hockey team that just won the division. What's the complaint again? Excuse me if I feel like I'm in bizarro world. All I see is lots of complaining and no solutions or appreciation
  14. 1) His first stamp on the team was drafting what is supposed to finally be our #1 center. Currently that player is struggling to fill that role. Whether that's a player fault or a coach fault is debatable. I don't understand how it's Bergevin's fault, he doesn't set the lines or play. 2) Sure, he could have just blindly drafted whatever center was available late in the first round a few times. But what kind of center was available at those times? I believe best player available is the best way to go, and again, that's debatable. I agree that Poeling could be a guy with upside. Drafts are mostly crapshoots regardless 3) That list of centers hardly screams #1 on a contending team. Seguin is a stud and Boston got fleeced. Would they ever trade a player of his ilk to a hated rival? Ditto for Spezza. We didnt have a Seth Jones to trade for Johannson. Zibanajad and Brassard were traded for each other. Brayden Schenn would have been a nice addiction this off season if a deal could have been done. 4) Shipachyov is an unknown at this point in the NHL. He could turn out to be a steal, he could turn out to be a bum. We will have to stay tuned. But yes, an offer would show a desire to fill a hole, even if he low balled him. 4.5m is alot of cap space for an unknown though
  15. There's no question there needs to be a defined #1 center on this roster. Galchenyuk or Drouin could possibly seize that role, and then we could maybe get away with Danault as a #2 and Plekanec as #3 shut down. And then maybe adding a scoring winger could work. I'm just not sure where this other center that should be added is supposed to come from, even with all that cap space. It's not as easy as saying "get it done". If you have a solution I'd be happy to hear it, and I'm sure Bergevin would as well.
  16. So because the Habs have a better chance than many of the 31 teams to win the Cup, we are using that as a reason to bash them? I'm just trying to follow what's going on around here. I am trying to put everything into perspective to anyone who for some reason feels entitled as Montreal Canadiens fan. This isn't the original 6, this isn't when they had first shot at any Quebec player. This is 2017 and a salary cap world, parity is a real thing. The only advantage we have is being able to max out on the salary cap and to hire however many expensive coaches and managers we want. And we can argue at a disadvantage due to tax implications for a player deciding to come here. For every Arizona, Colorado, and Vegas there is a Washington, San Jose, and St.Louis that haven't been able to get it done either. As long as this team keeps making the playoffs and has Carey Price, they have a chance; just like most teams have a chance.
  17. Am I wrong? Tell me how the math is wrong in a now 31 team league. What are the odds of a clear cut Stanley Cup favorite to win the Cup heading into a season? 14%? You know how math works right? They play the games for a reason, and it's the same reason why getting to the playoffs is the most important goal
  18. All things being equal, each team has a 3.33% chance at winning the Cup. We can say well we are the Montreal Canadiens and therefore deserve it more, but the fact is that the math doesn't change. In a salary cap world there aren't the same advantages that existed before. So 96.7% of the time each season a bunch of people on this forum are going to sharpen their pitchforks and declare everyone incompetent
  19. I'm on vacation and day drinking, hence the double Gallagher entry I'm on board with whatever that is going on in the AHL needing to change. But just like you can't blame only the player, you can't blame only the management. These are professional men that need to become the best version of themselves. Even then sometimes that's not good enough. From what I understand Bergevin lets Timmins and his staff make the selections. I think it's a good thing to have trust like that and to not step on anyone's toes. Nothing worse than not being allowed to do what you're paid to do. That being said, perhaps there should be a change in the scouting department if the results aren't there. I know they used to be but it's debatable in recent years.
  20. Permanent Rumour Thread

    I will be quite upset if Markov isn't resigned. He has been very underrated throughout his career and has often been the best player for this team. I also love seeing a player get drafted and retire with the same team.
  21. Do you mean like Sergachev Gallagher Subban Price Pacioretty Lehkonen Gallagher Galchenyuk
  22. I too would like to know where these #1 centers are supposed to come from, there's only a handful of them in the world. Yes, there are a couple teams that were able to acquire one in the last 5 years, but that doesn't mean that we had the package that team was looking for. You can't just force someone to trade with you. We can mock by saying "it's hard", but I've yet to read one feasible solution. Bergevin is arguably the most active GM in the league, do we actually think he hasn't been trying to get a center? I think it's safe to assume he had some deals on the table over the years but the cost was too high. Or do we want to overpay to get one? Serious question
  23. "Good with that" is much different than losing to a tough team 1 point in dfference in the standings. That series could have went either way. And then we would have got Ottawa, which would have been a good battle as well that would have been slightly in our favour. Then we are possibly in the conference finals...see how different the narrative would be?
  24. So he had a better team with higher expectations and got fired....and?
  25. -Price didn't win the Vezina till Stephane Waite was hired by Bergevin -Subban won the Norris under Bergevin -Galchenyuk was selected by Bergevin and made the NHL his first eligible year -Gallagher was a Calder trophy candidate under Bergevin -Pacioretty was sniping when Bergevin got hired and he still is -Markov is Markov So that is the core that he inherited. He gets no credit for the success of those players and all of the blame for others that didn't succeed under his watch. It's as if those players were destined to be good NHLers and he was just along for the ride. And anyone else would have been stars if not for how incompetent he is