Guest Stogey24 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 There were rumours that Echiel wouldn't even start contract negotiations unless Bylsma was gone. Buffalo also had one of the shittiest defense systems in the nhl last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I see Koivu more as GM material, actually. He has that air about him, it seems to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I like the part where all you brave, brave souls step up and actually put point totals and win-losses on your prognostications. I would do that too but for two things, ignorance and cowardice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Interesting advanced-stats analysis of Galchenyuk at EOTP, linked on HW's main page. Basically, Galy scores but also gets eaten by elite competition when it comes to controlling the play. It makes me wonder...could Bergevin's bizarre stockpiling of defensive defencemen actually be a strategic response to building around Galy as #1C? In other words, since you know you will be giving up chances with #27 playing major minutes, you compensate with a defence-oriented, shutdown blueline that helps to shelter Price against the kid's misreads and mistakes? I find this an interesting thought. We tend to assume that MB will ship Galy out at some point. But what if he's actually constructing the team with Galy in mind? Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Bergevin just signed this kid for 3 years. I find it highly unlikely he's building a team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Stogey24 said: Bergevin just signed this kid for 3 years. I find it highly unlikely he's building a team around him. Well, in three years our veteran core will mostly be over the hill anyway. So maybe by "build" we really mean, "build within the window of this core." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'd like to think your right, but the kid was stapled to the fourth line in the most important games of year and was basically on the brink of being traded because of his play. Now we're building a team around him. I dunno man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Weber is faster than a horse http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/montreal-canadiens/stu-cowan-canadiens-shea-weber-is-faster-than-a-speeding-horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 hours ago, illWill said: Weber is faster than a horse http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/montreal-canadiens/stu-cowan-canadiens-shea-weber-is-faster-than-a-speeding-horse We can thank Pehlps and the Shark for this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Whether or not he actually beat a horse going full-throttle (which i doubt), Weber is in fact a very strong, fast skater. I remember seeing footage of him almost catching Paul Byron in a footrace. What he is not - and what will likely prove to be an increasing Achilles' Heel as he enters his career back-9 - is quick. It's quickness, nimbleness, that defencemen need down low and to fend off fleet-footed forwards. Further to thinking about the upcoming season rather than horseracing, maybe the single biggest X-factor is Claude Julien. This analysis suggests that we should see both better D *and* better offence, not due to personnel changes, but rather through the installation of actual competent and effective coaching systems. https://www.habseyesontheprize.com/analysis/2017/9/4/16248222/claude-julien-coach-style-system-analysis-canadiens-bruins-stats-defence-carey-price-tuukka-rask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/TonyMarinaro/status/907250512717852672 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Seems like Drouin may start the season at center, and Galchenyuk at wing. Even hearing potential for Galchenyuk to start on RW, which excites me. He'll pile up 30 no trouble with his trigger on the right side. potentially a 1st line of Pacioretty - Drouin - Galchenyuk Second line lehkonen - danault - gallagher Third Byron - plekanec - Shaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher Byron-Danault-Galchenyuk Lehkonen-Plekanec-Hemsky Hudon-McCaron-Shaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well, so much for my cockamamie theory that the Habs' zero-offence blueline corps was an attempt to build a suffocating back end that could compensate for Galy's weakness at C.http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/alex-galchenyuk-wont-be-playing-centre-for-canadiens This reverts me to be fuddlement at MB"s apparent disinterest in puck-moving defencemen in today's NHL. This a GM who seems to think David Schlemko is a top-pairing defenceman Unless maybe I've got the wrong target, and it's Drouin's defensive deficiencies that the team is being built to manage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 1 hour ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher Byron-Danault-Galchenyuk Lehkonen-Plekanec-Hemsky Hudon-McCaron-Shaw I'd go with this lineup as well but I'd flip Byron and Lehkonen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Well, so much for my cockamamie theory that the Habs' zero-offence blueline corps was an attempt to build a suffocating back end that could compensate for Galy's weakness at C.http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/news/alex-galchenyuk-wont-be-playing-centre-for-canadiens This reverts me to be fuddlement at MB"s apparent disinterest in puck-moving defencemen in today's NHL. This a GM who seems to think David Schlemko is a top-pairing defenceman Unless maybe I've got the wrong target, and it's Drouin's defensive deficiencies that the team is being built to manage. Major doubts with this d-core. I don't see how Bergevin is happy with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Pacioretty Danault Lehkonen Galchenyuk Drouin Gallagher Byron Plekanec Shaw Matinsen Mitchell McCarron Schlemko Weber Alzner Petry Benn Davidson Streit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 "Bergevin said possibly Galchenyuk will develop into a centre, but it's clear to him he can't handle defensive side of the position right now" "I asked if Galchenyuk can learn the centre position while playing wing, Bergevin said yes. But also said it's possible he never does" Thatta boy Bergevin. Way to boost the kids confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs owned the 70's Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 On 9/9/2017 at 0:00 PM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Whether or not he actually beat a horse going full-throttle (which i doubt), Weber is in fact a very strong, fast skater. I remember seeing footage of him almost catching Paul Byron in a footrace. What he is not - and what will likely prove to be an increasing Achilles' Heel as he enters his career back-9 - is quick. It's quickness, nimbleness, that defencemen need down low and to fend off fleet-footed forwards. Of course the heavier man is going to be slower off the mark than a smaller one. Same theory with cars. Big heavy muscle cars may have the power and top speed advantage but they'll get smoked in very short races. You can see it in the race. Weber gets ahead first and the horse nearly catches him. Can't change the laws of physics, you know, over coming inertia an such. He compensates down low with his reach, strength and hockey sense. He never had quickness yet he's a top D playing this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Habs owned the 70's said: Of course the heavier man is going to be slower off the mark than a smaller one. Same theory with cars. Big heavy muscle cars may have the power and top speed advantage but they'll get smoked in very short races. You can see it in the race. Weber gets ahead first and the horse nearly catches him. Can't change the laws of physics, you know, over coming inertia an such. He compensates down low with his reach, strength and hockey sense. He never had quickness yet he's a top D playing this way. Indeed. But he's 32. At some point his quickness is going to diminish an extra bit and so will his defensive effectiveness. We'd better hope that happens later rather than sooner - loss of footspeed is one of those X-factors. It usually befalls players sometime in their early 30s, but sometimes it happens later, sometimes (more rarely) sooner. I get nervous about players once they hit the 32-34 age bracket. A less-quick Weber will still be a top-4 D-man for a while, but will become gradually more and more one-dimensional (big shot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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