The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com/2008/09/m...rom-gainey.html Got the link from Habs Inside/Out. A must-read, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Excellent read - thanks, CC. Interesting that 2 teams wanted Huet. I wonder what the other one was. Ottawa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Excellent read - thanks, CC. Interesting that 2 teams wanted Huet. I wonder what the other one was. Ottawa? That would not surprise me at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 A good read, a bit scary that our goal was Benoit Pouliot in 05, we probably dodged a bullet there. I know after Price, our next two choices were Staal and Bourdon (dodged another bullet). I'm a bit surprised Gainey and Timins weren't interested in Kopitar if their #1 goal was for a big forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 A good read, a bit scary that our goal was Benoit Pouliot in 05, we probably dodged a bullet there. I know after Price, our next two choices were Staal and Bourdon (dodged another bullet). I'm a bit surprised Gainey and Timins weren't interested in Kopitar if their #1 goal was for a big forward. I'm not that surprised. Many teams passed on Kopitar. Some says that it had to see with the country he was playing and the development program over there in term of sport ethic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I'm not that surprised. Many teams passed on Kopitar. Some says that it had to see with the country he was playing and the development program over there in term of sport ethic. That was the common knock but I don't feel like it's one Gainey and Timmins would buy. They were comfortable picking Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Graboski and Buturlin out of Belarus. Now Belarus is a more developed hockey country than Slovenia but they're still pretty obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 That was the common knock but I don't feel like it's one Gainey and Timmins would buy. They were comfortable picking Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Graboski and Buturlin out of Belarus. Now Belarus is a more developed hockey country than Slovenia but they're still pretty obscure. I wanted Kopitar over Brule. I wanted nothing to do with Pouliot. I am happy with the selection they made although shocked at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I wanted Kopitar over Brule. I wanted nothing to do with Pouliot. I am happy with the selection they made although shocked at the time Yeah, even then Pouliot was considered a very risky pick and the one guy most probable to bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 That was the common knock but I don't feel like it's one Gainey and Timmins would buy. They were comfortable picking Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, Graboski and Buturlin out of Belarus. Now Belarus is a more developed hockey country than Slovenia but they're still pretty obscure. yeah, that's why i wasn't that surprised. I even remember that the commentators on RDS were talking about this guy and raised the point of the Belarus thing... I'm very happy with Price now, but i was shocked just like Wamsley and.... pretty much every Habs fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I wanted Kopitar over Brule. I wanted nothing to do with Pouliot. I am happy with the selection they made although shocked at the time I remember being paralyzed for a few minutes in front of the TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I wanted Kopitar over Brule. I wanted nothing to do with Pouliot. I am happy with the selection they made although shocked at the time I was immediately happy. It was clear to me that Price was good enough to at least garnish returns. To the people who wanted Kopitar; If you were Dean Lombardi, would you trade Kopitar for Price? I also liked the pick because you really do have to "Keep up with the Jones'". Luongo, Dipietro, Marc-André Fleury amongst others were premier high draft pick goalies. The trade returns based on his stock before he even left junior had significant stock. Risk reward factor = take the risk :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecurb Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I remember yelling out loud..NO !! when we picked Price. Its doesn't surprise we were interested in Pouliot, a skilled Quebecer with size. I didn't want Brule. Was is in love with Kopitars size, but the unknowns scared me. I really wanted us to move up and grab Jack Johnson. So, maybe Roy back in the family? Gaineys on a roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortHanded Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Yeah, I remember thinking, "but Jose's at the top of his game" when we picked Price. What the heck are we doing with another goalie... SO glad it happened now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I was wondering if there was a trade in the works. When I saw the analysts going nuts over the trade, my contrarian instincts kicked in and I began to wonder if it was a great move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share Posted September 11, 2008 The thing that strikes me about Gainey is his whole approach to management. In discussing scouting, he frames it in terms of fairness to the scouting staff itself - how they've worked all year to assemble a list, and how to start fiddling with the list, moving a prospect up or down in reaction to what other teams are doing, etc., invalidates what they've done. I wonder how many GMs would approach things that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerebusClone Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Its doesn't surprise we were interested in Pouliot, a skilled Quebecer with size. He's not from Quebec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 I'm not that surprised. Many teams passed on Kopitar. Some says that it had to see with the country he was playing and the development program over there in term of sport ethic. Kopitar was actually playing in Sweden when he was drafted for Södertälje's junior team I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecurb Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 He's not from Quebec... Your right, its never wise to assume. I should have done some research before posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerebusClone Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Your right, its never wise to assume. I should have done some research before posting. We've all made that mistake... I used to think Claude Julien, Paul Martin (the politician), and Paul Desmarais (very wealthy and affluent businessman) were Quebeckers too... although at least they francophones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 We've all made that mistake... I used to think Claude Julien, Paul Martin (the politician), and Paul Desmarais (very wealthy and affluent businessman) were Quebeckers too... although at least they francophones No shame to think Desmarais is from Quebec, he worked pretty much all his life in Montreal and has a french name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerebusClone Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 No shame to think Desmarais is from Quebec, he worked pretty much all his life in Montreal and has a french name... Not only that, but I'm pretty sure Nicolas Sarkozy referred to him as a great Quebecker when he honored him on the légion d'honneur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Gainey didn't name Poliout directly in that quote. He could've been referring to Bobby Ryan, who went 2nd overall to Anaheim. There were no guarantees that Ryan would be gone by #5. Crosby & Johnson were pretty much the only two players that were guaranteed to be gone by the Habs' pick. There was a group of 4 forwards (including Kopitar and Brule) that were considered pretty equal. It was considered a surprise that the Ducks passed on Johnson for Ryan. I don't think any scouting agency had Ryan, or any of the other 3 forwards, ranked ahead of Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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