ICEWATER77 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Is it the 4 Assistants and no Captain? The coaching staff? The new faces? Somebody explain to me exactly how we can go into BUFFALO, and NOT dominate? It's high time we stop teetering from Contender to Pretender! All I hear is how great the locker room is..gee, that's nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If being in first is a problem, then I hope the problem continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Is it the 4 Assistants and no Captain? The coaching staff? The new faces? Somebody explain to me exactly how we can go into BUFFALO, and NOT dominate? It's high time we stop teetering from Contender to Pretender! All I hear is how great the locker room is..gee, that's nice! yes great room. MT will give them another couple days off. Love the room. "pretender tom contender" Will the real team please rise! They ate not as good as their record..................and the games get tougher as the season goes on because well coached teams get better as the year goes on.and younger players get better ....... but not on MT's teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think there are just a few kinks to work out. Sure, maybe it is leadership right now, because it's a new young group, but they will develope as leaders and we will see them step up. I think Pacioretty is almost there. He almost has his whole game. As bad as buffalo is, they're still an nhl team. Losing 2-1 against buffalo isn't as bad as 7-1 to Tampa if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 If being in first is a problem, then I hope the problem continues. come plaay off time....first place and a toonie will get you a cup of coffee. when the teams gets blown out 7-1 inn the play offs because of the WAY THEY PLAY.....will you point to the standings then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The problems are they are generally soft, don't go to the tough areas to score, don't protect the front of the net, they have some fast players but generally are a slow team, especially defensively, there work ethic is terrible. 2 goals for in 2 games against the worst team. That said, a win tonight they are still 10 games above 500, and have time to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think there are just a few kinks to work out. Sure, maybe it is leadership right now, because it's a new young group, but they will develope as leaders and we will see them step up. I think Pacioretty is almost there. He almost has his whole game. As bad as buffalo is, they're still an nhl team. Losing 2-1 against buffalo isn't as bad as 7-1 to Tampa if you ask me. buffalo has rid themselves of players that would help them win, they are going with players that will help them lose.........its called tanking................they dont care if they lose and the disgustingly healthy habs still lose to that team after having 5 days off to prepare for the game? .. quick point to the standings! The problems are they are generally soft, don't go to the tough areas to score, don't protect the front of the net, they have some fast players but generally are a slow team, especially defensively, there work ethic is terrible. 2 goals for in 2 games against the worst team. That said, a win tonight they are still 10 games above 500, and have time to improve 3 goals in last 3 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yes, and DD really sucks but seems to get a pass from everyone including the coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 come plaay off time....first place and a toonie will get you a cup of coffee. when the teams gets blown out 7-1 inn the play offs because of the WAY THEY PLAY.....will you point to the standings then? Why are you talking about a hypothetical loss in the playoffs when it is November? You must not have been around when this team made it to the final four last season. They get up for the games that they need to win, who gives a shit if they get blown out a few games or lose to Buffalo? You obviously hope this team fails just to justify all your negativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I think there are just a few kinks to work out. Sure, maybe it is leadership right now, because it's a new young group, but they will develope as leaders and we will see them step up. I think Pacioretty is almost there. He almost has his whole game. As bad as buffalo is, they're still an nhl team. Losing 2-1 against buffalo isn't as bad as 7-1 to Tampa if you ask me. Loved Pacioretty getting 8 shots in game and he looked good running guys over. He can be a bit of beast when he seems a bit pissed off, skates hard and 'finishes his checks'. The more I see this year, I would almost consider him more a 'C' candidate than start of year for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Why are you talking about a hypothetical loss in the playoffs when it is November? You must not have been around when this team made it to the final four last season. They get up for the games that they need to win, who gives a shit if they get blown out a few games or lose to Buffalo? You obviously hope this team fails just to justify all your negativity. Thank you Islander.... Geez, some people sound like Leaf fans don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Thank you Islander.... Geez, some people sound like Leaf fans don't they? Hey, that is a low blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Buffalo sucks but they've won four out or five games. I didn't watch the game so I can't comment about particulars; unfortunately some posters around here want to air (and continuously repeat) their grievances with every loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yes, and DD really sucks but seems to get a pass from everyone including the coach for sure does....... he's a lock on the pp no matter how impotent it gets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Why are you talking about a hypothetical loss in the playoffs when it is November? You must not have been around when this team made it to the final four last season. They get up for the games that they need to win, who gives a shit if they get blown out a few games or lose to Buffalo? You obviously hope this team fails just to justify all your negativity. just pointing out that when talking about a particular bad game and discussing the reasons or details , pointing to the standings does not answer everything. Changes the subject the pretty good though. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yep, don't see why DD is a mainstay while struggling PP goes no where, Galchenyuk might as well be at center, but at least DD is winning a lot of draws. Still say the net front presence is the weakest part of the PP. A 3 PP goal outburst is in order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yep, don't see why DD is a mainstay while struggling PP goes no where, Galchenyuk might as well be at center, but at least DD is winning a lot of draws. Still say the net front presence is the weakest part of the PP. A 3 PP goal outburst is in order... yea, even a broken clock is right twice a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yep, don't see why DD is a mainstay while struggling PP goes no where, Galchenyuk might as well be at center, but at least DD is winning a lot of draws. Still say the net front presence is the weakest part of the PP. A 3 PP goal outburst is in order... I'll agree with a lot of the DD criticism. You can't take anything away from DD, he's worked really hard to get where he is. But...the coaches seem to view his success as being along the same lines as Pacioretty. Maybe they forget Pacioretty was on pace foe thirty goals playing with Scott Gomez? DD on the powerplay is useless. He wins faceoffs, but for all the good he's done they might as well roll Manny Malhotra out on PP1. Have confidence in MB. I thought he would resign Gionta, and instead he gives Gionta an eff you offer and trades Bourque, Moen and Gorges. Once Galchenyuk stops watching tapes of Bruins-era Sergei Samsonov, DD is dead meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 anybody think that the revolving door of players coming and going might be a factor? I know they're professionals, yada-yada, but could it be that some guys are concerned about "who's next?" or "how secure is my spot?" lot of new faces round here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 anybody think that the revolving door of players coming and going might be a factor? I know they're professionals, yada-yada, but could it be that some guys are concerned about "who's next?" or "how secure is my spot?" lot of new faces round here... Workplace environment, you should damn well be worried that people not meeting expectations are replaced.... nothing new. Keeps ya hungry and contributing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 "Have confidence in MB. I thought he would resign Gionta, and instead he gives Gionta an eff you offer and trades Bourque, Moen and Gorges" I don't believe that I ever read that MB gave him any kind of offer other than to hold the door open for him when he left the building. Bourque Great trade. Moen great trade. Georges ..good salary cap management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 "Have confidence in MB. I thought he would resign Gionta, and instead he gives Gionta an eff you offer and trades Bourque, Moen and Gorges" I don't believe that I ever read that MB gave him any kind of offer other than to hold the door open for him when he left the building. Bourque Great trade. Moen great trade. Georges ..good salary cap management. They were confirmed to be in negotiations. I don't know if it was all show, or not. Bergevin works in mysterious ways... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The thread is a joke. The team's in first overall and apparently that isn't anywhere near good enough. Come off it. This is the best time in 25 years to be a Habs' fan, and we react with threads demanding to know WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. Reee-dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I don't believe that I ever read that MB gave him any kind of offer other than to hold the door open for him when he left the building. The rumblings were that they had a one year deal around $2.5 M on the table for him. As for the question as to whether leadership is the problem, I say no. Every team has bad nights and bad streaks. This happens whether or not they have a captain or no captain, or a good coach, a bad coach, or Sylvain Lefebvre. As for the (relative) newcomers in Gonchar/Allen/Tangradi, they alone shouldn't impact how good or bad a team starts or finishes a game. (And for what it's worth, I thought all three had some good moments last night.) There's lots of criticism to spread around for them not playing particularly well last night - they should have been better, no doubt - but I wouldn't throw it on the hands/feet of a few. That was a collective loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I wouldn't say thread is re-dick and why not 'debate' whether leadership is good-average-poor, is an OK question. Sure team is doing well, but with all shutouts, relatively poor offense again this year and shitPP maybe leadership is not as could/should be? Do not have a Toews, but do have a Priceand when Pacioretty gets in 'that' mode, he is one of best power forwards around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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