Habs owned the 70's Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Beaulieu is far from "brutal right now" and there is also the pesky little fact that Pateryn and Beaulieu don't play the same position. So by that logic Beaulieu gets a free ticket because he's a LD no matter how bad he is? Don't think so. Hey I hope he improves but if he's playing like this come playoffs then Pateryn comes in RD or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 So by that logic Beaulieu gets a free ticket because he's a LD no matter how bad he is? Don't think so. Hey I hope he improves but if he's playing like this come playoffs then Pateryn comes in RD or not. No, Tinordi would. People's lack of trust in him aside, Tinordi is a better defenseman right now than Alexei Emelin. They mostly do the same things, the same way, but Tinordi is bigger, stronger, and more physical about it. The rest of their games, other than experience and salary, are equal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs owned the 70's Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Pateryn is higher on the depth chart than Tinordi. Management doesn't have faith in Tinordi and he has lost his confidence. Don't think he has a future in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Pateryn is higher on the depth chart than Tinordi. Management doesn't have faith in Tinordi and he has lost his confidence. Don't think he has a future in Montreal. Pateryn may be "higher on the depth chart than Tinordi", but he's "higher on the depth chart" than Condon, too. Except you don't want to put him in goal, obviously. Likewise you don't want to put him on Left Defense. It's very hard to play defense on the wrong side. When we had Emelin playing right defense, he was a defensive nightmare, which made him completely useless (since he was never any good offensively.) I could scream watching the Leafs exploit Emelin on RD over and over again to get free scoring chances. This is a major weakness most teams have when you get down into their bottom pairing (or even higher.) Regardless of what you think of Tinordi's future, he's more than adequate. You can put him there, and he'll do his job, and do it well. He has every single time he's been up with the habs, and yet for some reason people still don't trust him. Tinordi has rarely made the types of defensive gaffes Beaulieu does on a regular basis. Sure, he also lacks his potential offensive upside, but in his own end, he's been more trustworthy in the rare times we've used him. Let's put it this way - if we lose any of Markov, Beaulieu, or Emelin to injury, we're not going to see Pateryn in to replace them - he has no shot at it. Likewise, if we lose Subban, Petry or Gilbert to injury, Tinordi's not going to even be considered to replace them. Don't play these guys out of position. There's no more technical job for a skater than defense - it's as demanding mentally as it is physically, and you don't want to add to that by making them play the wrong side. That's how you turn even the more solid defenders in the NHL into leaky sieves. Do it with an inexperienced depth player, and it's a recipe for disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 8-0. Lead the league in every possible category. The highest seven plus players in the league are all Cnadiens. DD and Flieshman look great together. Weiss got two goals last night playing with them, in a 7-2 hammering of the sabres without our best player. I would not change a thing Wow.. thanks for the stats. Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Now ..that's an anthem.. Canadians singing the Canadian anthem. Pateryn may be "higher on the depth chart than Tinordi", but he's "higher on the depth chart" than Condon, too. Except you don't want to put him in goal, obviously. Likewise you don't want to put him on Left Defense. It's very hard to play defense on the wrong side. When we had Emelin playing right defense, he was a defensive nightmare, which made him completely useless (since he was never any good offensively.) I could scream watching the Leafs exploit Emelin on RD over and over again to get free scoring chances. This is a major weakness most teams have when you get down into their bottom pairing (or even higher.) Regardless of what you think of Tinordi's future, he's more than adequate. You can put him there, and he'll do his job, and do it well. He has every single time he's been up with the habs, and yet for some reason people still don't trust him. Tinordi has rarely made the types of defensive gaffes Beaulieu does on a regular basis. Sure, he also lacks his potential offensive upside, but in his own end, he's been more trustworthy in the rare times we've used him. Let's put it this way - if we lose any of Markov, Beaulieu, or Emelin to injury, we're not going to see Pateryn in to replace them - he has no shot at it. Likewise, if we lose Subban, Petry or Gilbert to injury, Tinordi's not going to even be considered to replace them. Don't play these guys out of position. There's no more technical job for a skater than defense - it's as demanding mentally as it is physically, and you don't want to add to that by making them play the wrong side. That's how you turn even the more solid defenders in the NHL into leaky sieves. Do it with an inexperienced depth player, and it's a recipe for disaster. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Man..whudda team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Man..whudda team. Is our goaltending legal? Ya BabEEEEE!!! PP goal. Is this a rivalry or ribaldry? A dirty joke? Toronto is playing some pretty good hockey out there. Nice to see. Nice exciting end to the period.. exciting team our glorieux.. ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 That was a back-and-forth period. Both teams had some good sustained pressure. Subban seems to be on a mission to shoot tonight, 6 shot attempts already. Hopefully that's not his plan all game to shoot at all times, it's always good to vary things up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Markov and Petry already had goals this year. Subban felt left out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Nice, Lars from Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Yesterday we got stupid when we had a 2 goal lead, too. Wooo DD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Gah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Leafs are playing good and the habs might be a little bit tired since they played last night too. Same as the redwings when we beat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 The second has been out weakest period every single game. I have to think the third will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Good call by the ref. Phaneuf just turned his back to Weise when the hit came. Scoring four goals in that period where the Leafs actually outplayed us shows the importance of a good goalie. We have one, the Leafs not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 That was not a good period from the Habs at all, way too scrambly in their own end. Semin had a bonehead giveaway that led to the one goal and I must say I'm impressed that Therrien didn't staple him to the bench; he'd have been justified had he done so. That all said, scoring four goals in a period where they played that poorly makes their struggles easier to swallow. Also, 2 PPG's for the second straight game, that will help the old percentage out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Good Ole hughson. "If you look at the analytics this is a middle of the road team." Dude get educated about the team you are analyzing. If you look at the analytics you will see te exact oposite. This season anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It's also difficult to argue that price is the only reason we will when we score five goals on the first two periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 4th line faceoffs tonight: Flynn 5/5, Mitchell 1/11. Hopefully Flynn's taking more in the 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 First time the Habs have allowed three goals this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Semin with the giveaway on that leafs goal as well. Maybe time to let him rest the final part of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 This is going to be a tough final half of the third. Habs are dead tired and it shows. Price needs to keep his play up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 How exhausted is this team? This is pathetic. On the other hand, maybe they'll do better with the ability to ice the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Good call Jeff. Our noble warriors are dead on their feet. I love this team. Not our shiniest moment and I sure hope we can take Wankouver but I am so frankly surprised at how good we are. Hurrah for our guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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