Lord Chronic Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Of all problems, the Habs are probably dealing with the best kind. The level of play of Montreal's prospects has been outstanding so far. Making the final cuts going to be a tough and critical decision. It's become a dogfight between, Hossa, Sundstrom, Perezhogen, Dags, Higgins, Plekanic, Vandermeer, Ivanas and Latendresse ( who i would love to see play this year, but it's highly unlikley at this point) up front. While Hainsey, Streit and Boullioun duke it out on defence. I find it hard to believe that Mtl would send down the likes of Hossa and Plekanic( MVP of AHL all-star game last year) back down to Hamilton. There quite simply isn't enough room and it seems wrong to send these guys back to the AHL to rot when they are NHL ready. The plethora of young prospects up front could be the answer to landing a #1/2 defencemen, which i believe is a must on this team. So back to the question, who do you think will go? if anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett38 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Here are my forward lines: Kovalev Koivu Zednik Ryder Ribeiro Perrezhogin Bulis Bonk Hossa Sundstrum Begin Higgins Vandemeer I want to put Plekanic in somewhere, but I think we need Vandemeer as our tough guy from time to time. Dagenais will be beat out by younger guys. Higgins needs a shot at it. Latendresse is doing great/excellent, but will be sent down. This has got to be the toughest year yet for the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think Dagnenais, Ivanans, and Plekanac are on the outside looking in right now. I would pick Plekanac over Sundstrom but Sundstrom has 2 years remaining on his contract and Plekanac is easier to get rid of via a trade...ect.... I'd say Zednik Koivu Kovalev Hossa Ribeiro Ryder Higgins Bonk Perezhogin Bulis Begin Sundstrom Vandermeer Markov Rivet Souray Komisarek Hainsey Bouillon Streit Theodore Danis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nam Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 As much as he has played well and is a solid player, I think Bouillion's days could be numbered. The habs have Souray, Markov, Dandenault, Rivet & Komisarek pretty much set on defence. That leaves Hainsey, Streit & Bouillion for the 6 and 7 spots. There are a few others but they are young and will likely play in Hamilton to further develope (nice having youth depth). Hainsey is big and if he can live up to his potential will not be moved. If Streit can do in the NHL what he did in Europe he will crack the lineup. Both are younger and bigger than Boullion. Hainsey probably won't get much better in the AHL and Streit won't play there as he will just go home. Boullion is looking like the odd man out if the other two preform equal or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by Lord Chronic It's become a dogfight between, Hossa, Sundstrom, Perezhogen, Dags, Higgins, Plekanic, Vandermeer, Ivanas and Latendresse ( who i would love to see play this year, but it's highly unlikley at this point) up front. So back to the question, who do you think will go? if anybody. I heard, on RDS last night, that Julien had stated categorically that Sundstrom WILL be staying with the team. He likes Sundstrom so that cuts down the possibilities again. I have to agree that, likely, Dagenais will soon be replaced by one of the younger hungry ones. I'm disappointed for Dagenais. I like him. He's an underdog, quiet, unassuming but very efficient at what he does. If he's not put on the roster, I'm sure someone else will pick him up. He will be very useful to some team out there who needs a shooter specialist. If he's teamed up with the right guys, he could be a minor Brett Hull - not as talented but in the same mould. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_nl Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 The two first line are pretty simple to form. Six players that are a bit better than the rest and they all have offensive skills. And Dagenais may not have the skills but he sure can score and have great chemistry with Ribs so have him there when the season starts may not be so bad. But remember that Dagenais ONLY plays the second line because of his abillity to score and if he doesn't deliver right from the start someone else should have that spot. As I see it, the third line is the key. Bonk will center and Bulis will play a wing. But whom will be the second winger? Maybe it should be Sundström. In my opinion one of the most under rated players in the leauge. A healthy Sundström is first line material and I would like to see how things work out for him before I say anything about it. But Bulis-Bonk-Sundström could be one of the most thightest defensive lines ever... The fourth should be centered by Begin. Perezhogin and Plekanec as wingers. That my opninion. But if things aren't working out for Dagenais we have a whole different situation... Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev Dagenais-Ribeiro-Ryder Sundström-Bonk-Bulis Plekanec-Begin-Perezhogin Alternative Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev Sundström-Ribeiro-Ryder Plekanec-Bonk-Bulis Hossa-Begin-Perezhogin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I hate to think your right Shortcat. If it is the case this kid has had a lengthy trial period in the NHL. Career Regular Season Stats GP G A Pts +/- PM PP SH GW S SPct 00-01 NJ 9 3 2 5 1 6 1 0 1 20 15.00 01-02 NJ 16 3 3 6 -5 4 1 0 1 30 10.00 01-02 Fla 26 7 1 8 -5 4 2 0 0 47 14.89 02-03 Fla 9 0 0 0 -1 4 0 0 0 5 0.00 03-04 MT 50 17 10 27 15 24 4 0 3 149 11.41 In my mind. Give this guy twenty games or so this year. If he doesn't improve on his stats on the previous season then bring in new blood. This could very well be Dagenais last kick at the can, at least here in MTL. :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 It would not suprise me at all if there was a trade coming soon. Hossa and Hainsey possibly for a stud Dman. If there isn't a trade, I think the lines will look like this: Zednik Koivu Kovalev Perezhogin Ribeiro Ryder Bulis Bonk Hossa Higgins Begin Sundstrom Markov Rivet Souray Komisarek Dandenault Bouillon Hainsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaskHabFan Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 We have do have a problem but it is a good one. I have been going through the scenarios and cannot find room for Sundstrom other than the fourth line. Here is what i would like to see: Zednik, Koivu, Kovalev Latendresse/Higgins, Ribeiro, Ryder Hossa, Bonk, Bulis Perezoghin, Begin, Sundstrom Vandermeer as the 13th man, inserted when needed. I assume Guy will go back to Junior, don't dislike Dags but I think we have better guys for the job and I really think Hossa will play with Bonk on the third line. As for the D, I agree the first 5 are set leaving Hainsey, Boullion and Streit battling it out for the final 2 spots. I agree we could package up maybe a Pleckanec and Hainsey or whoever for a good D-Man. Its gonna be fun though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaliHab Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Here's how I think the lineup will look: Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev Perezoghin - Ribeiro - Ryder Bulis - Bonk - Hossa Higgins - Begin - Sundstrom Dandenault - Souray Markov - Rivet Hainsey - Boullion Scratched Plekanec Vandemeer Streit My first two lines haven't changed since the lockout ended, although Dags continues to earn more respect from me, I just can't see him sticking around... he'll be a solid addition to another team. An unfortunate reality... Hossa looks ready to make his mark on the NHL... from what I've seen/read/heard through the grapevine, he's the real deal along the boards and will score more than Sundstrom. definitely a nice surprise and I now have him penciled in a spot on the third line I'd originally reserved for Sunny. I think we will have one of the most effective and exciting 4th lines in the league... highly effective youth with gritty/defensive veterens mixed in. Higgins looks like a defensively educated Mike Comrie... Vandemeer will simply pick and choose his opposition more sensibly when the season starts - but last nights mis-match proves he's a willing combatant! Plekanec also deserves a spot in this lineup but it's just a matter of finding space... where do you put him, I think he could fall any where between the 2nd line and 4th line wing... I also can't disagree with those that say he'll be traded... Someone made an interesting comment during last nights game thread... good on Ryder to have signed that contract when he did... if he'd held out and missed part of camp my guess is that he would have signed for considerably less- the rookies have made that solid an impression! I don't think a blockbuster will be made for a stud blueliner... I think the aquistion of Dandenault is meant to fill the #1 slot along the blueline. Not a Franchise dman, but instead a workhorse who can do a little bit of everything (carry the puck, keep his feet moving on D, and use his experience to bang with the big boys on D)... almost like the role Desjardins played in Philly after leaving Montreal... I think Boullion will get his chance to prove the new rules will make him a new, better defenseman. I think they play to his strengths more than any other habs. No one keeps their feet moving like Cube. Plus he's in the best shape of his life! Can someone please settle this question once and for all... is Striet signed to a two -way contract or does he have to clear waivers? I believe contrary to popular belief he is on a two way deal... This is a young team oozing speed and scoring, talk about exciting... I caught the 1st 5 mins of CJAD post game, and while the callers were a little worked up from last nights performance (we probably won't win the cup this year:D) I think the optimism shown for the future is well warranted. Go Habs Go ps. I still think Bulis will have the most impressive year of any habs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 I think you forgot Komisarek !!! Bouillon will be our 7th D I think. I saw Sundays game vs. the Trashers and I wasn't impressed by Streit. I don't see him making the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diebels Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 just keep in mind that Streit is used to the European style. You have to give him some time adjusting to the North American rink. He has signed a two-way contract, you have to give him some credit for that. He could have an easy live in Switzerland where everyone respects him and where he can earn some good money. But I have to agree. I have seen him play quite often in the last 6 years and although I think that he is a great player, I do not see him as a good fit for the Habs. He is a Markov kind of a player and I think that the Habs have enough of that. His biggest plus to Hainsey is his consistency and his character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaliHab Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 haha, Komisarek who? haha, I just re read my previous post and couldn't believe I'd left him off... that's terrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANFALCAO Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 zeddnik,koivu,kovalev ryder,ribeiro,perezhogin bulis,bonk,hossa begin,higgins,vander i think sundstrom is done to many young talent taking over trade him for a draft pick or a bag a pucks if latendresse makes the team then i think the lines would be zeddnik,koivu,kovalev ryder,ribeiro,perezhogin hossa,bonk,latendresse bulis,begin,vander also remember that higgins,pleks have 2 way contracts so youll see them in and out hossa will play has nhl contract [Edited on 2005/9/22 by DANFALCAO] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 What about Chipchura? I guess he and Latandresse will have to go to Hamilton for a year, considering the other older prospects. WHOOARGH, now that I think about it, imagine this line in a year's time: Latandresse-Chipchura-Kostitsyn *pants* Sweet Jesus, that will be amazing! We can lose Dagenais, Sundstrom, and possibly/probably Bonk. What do you guys think about the LoCK Line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 My guess is: Zednik - Koivu - Kovalev Dagenais - Ribeiro - Ryder Bulis - Bonk - Hossa Higgins - Begin- Sundstrom Vandemeer - Perezhogin as needed Markov Rivet Souray Komisarek Dandenault Bouillon Benoit Streit and Hainsey apparently haven't impressed and Benoit has. They might try him out. And why talk about ditching Bonk when we have seen so little of a very talented guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Originally posted by diebelsjust keep in mind that Streit is used to the European style. You have to give him some time adjusting to the North American rink. After the Leafs-Canadiens game, the commentators were saying that Streit was looking much more comfortable out there as compared to his first game. We'll see how that complicates matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 And why talk about ditching Bonk when we have seen so little of a very talented guy? You're right, Bonk is much more talented than many give him credit for. He was a good acquisition. By the way, The Saint (Simon?), where and why is the 'Land of Living Skies'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Chronic Posted September 23, 2005 Author Share Posted September 23, 2005 Originally posted by shortcat1 Originally posted by diebelsjust keep in mind that Streit is used to the European style. You have to give him some time adjusting to the North American rink. After the Leafs-Canadiens game, the commentators were saying that Streit was looking much more comfortable out there as compared to his first game. We'll see how that complicates matters. Ugh then he must have sucked SO badly in the first 2 games, cause let me tell you this guy made so many horrible passes it isn't even funny, one of them resulted in a goal for the Leafs. On the plus side he did show some offensive upside at times but still..... he sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycing Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 Now I'm thinking we should keep Dags just for shoot-out chances. You need someone to win it for you? Send Dags in... lol. Then again, we haven't seen our guys go down on any top-notch NHL goalies yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 there will a trade i'm sure because the habs would have to put hossa and hainsey on waivers in order to send them back to hamilton i'm pretty sure atlanta would appreciate such a gift prom mtl gainey will once again suprise us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANFALCAO Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 hossa wont be on waivers not a chance but im telling u mark my words sundstrom will be traded for a pick or anything hes done hansey will make it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saint Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Land 'o Living Skies is Saskatchewan mon ami, also means swift flowing river...referring to the north and south Saskatchewan rivers... among other bountiful waterways... We actually have plenty of water, it's just not in the south and our north is part of the Canadian shield which you Ontariens can undoubtedly relate to. And there is a substantial force of Habs fans out here...you just have to seek us out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habspool.com Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I think Julien will keep Hossa. latendresse is definitely going in minor league. [Edited on 2005/9/24 by habspool.com] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I think the next set of choices is easier then the final choices to be made for cuts. You will likely see, Aitken, Chipchura, Vandermeer, Kostitsyn, Locke and Benoit get the call of death. After that it gets to be brutal with the likes of Latendresse, Perezhogin, Higgins, Hossa, Plekanec, Hainsey, Streit etc all having good camps so far [not so much with Streit ] and yet not enough room for all of them. Damn shame about Guillaume though, what a horse he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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