alexstream Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 With Captain Finland on the habs, I'm surprised that we didn't went out to get some marquee Finn players. They almost all have the greatest hard working attitude, and a hard nosed two way style of play, contrarily to some other countries (no racism / nationalism intended). Our only lame attempts were under Houle with Lind and Whitehall... I know that Dallas is starting to pile 'em up, Chicago seems to have followed the trend... Should we go get some too (before there are none left) or we should just go after any player, no matter where he's from? (keep in mind that it'd have to fill a hole in our lineup) e.g. Hamrlik vs Niinima Lehtinen vs (well no one is similar to Lehtinen ) Selanne vs Kariya... It's a "fantasy" question, since there are not many Finns on the trade market... The worst answer you can give me is hat So and So is not for trade... The reworded question would be : at equal talent, should we go with a Finn next time? just to do a "surprise" to Saku... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 I would love to see Lehtinen and Selanne here for a couple of years. Lehtinen - Koivu - Selanne They sure are filling the net at Turin Jokinen would be nice too! I'm not sure of the contract status for Lehtinen. I know Jokinen and Selanne are UFA but do the Habs have the $? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) Lehtinen would be awesome. Never forget he is a former Selke winner. He makes $3,572,000.00. That's this years' numbers. Not sure about his contract status. He is also in Dallas. I wonder if Gainey has anymore UOI's left from that club ( ) 2002-03 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) 1998-99 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) 1997-98 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) Selanne is getting 1 million which makes him attainable IMO. Edited February 21, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 With Captain Finland on the habs, I'm surprised that we didn't went out to get some marquee Finn players. They almost all have the greatest hard working attitude, and a hard nosed two way style of play, contrarily to some other countries (no racism / nationalism intended). Our only lame attempts were under Houle with Lind and Whitehall... I know that Dallas is starting to pile 'em up, Chicago seems to have followed the trend... Should we go get some too (before there are none left) or we should just go after any player, no matter where he's from? (keep in mind that it'd have to fill a hole in our lineup) e.g. Hamrlik vs Niinima Lehtinen vs (well no one is similar to Lehtinen ) Selanne vs Kariya... It's a "fantasy" question, since there are not many Finns on the trade market... The worst answer you can give me is hat So and So is not for trade... The reworded question would be : at equal talent, should we go with a Finn next time? just to do a "surprise" to Saku... Witehall is swedish and not finnish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Lehtinen would be awesome. Never forget he is a former Selke winner. He makes $3,572,000.00. That's this years' numbers. Not sure about his contract status. He is also in Dallas. I wonder if Gainey has anymore UOI's left from that club ( ) 2002-03 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) 1998-99 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) 1997-98 NHL - Frank J. Selke Trophy (Best Defensive Forward) Selanne is getting 1 million which makes him attainable IMO. I tried googling his contract status and I found that he is signed until the end of the 2006-07 season. No word on financial terms however. Anyways, here's the link: http://www.allsports.com/cgi-bin/showstory...?story_id=44182 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't care if they Finnish. Swedish, Canadian, Swiss, German, Russian, Latvian, American, Belorussian, Slovakian, Czech, Austrian, Lithuanian, or Danish as long as they are a good fit for the hockey team. Just because one team is having a good Olympics, doesn't mean you should target that one nationality of players. Besides when all is said and done, Canada will have jelled and kicked some serious ass!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Any team getting a perfect record in pre-eliminatory round is bound to seduce by the inherent cohesiveness demonstrated in their play.......a must....to win four in a row. This question of balance and identity in the NHL can be obtain by the proper selection of players from different nations....yet any teams that need a quick identity fix could do well in imitating what the Rangers did so successfully this year by gathering a large portion of players that have originally evolved in the same country. Since the UFA market is a limited ressource to start with, it would be a fallacy to think that a team would benefit anything by further limiting himself to the allready small pool of players avallaible in any given year player in order to fill its specific needs. If Gainey would have obtain Selanne for the first line, Rolster for the second line and Laperierre for the third line prior to the beginning of this season......instead of keeping Zednick, Dagenais and Sundstrom.....this team wouldn't have behaved as dysfonctionally as it did.......those UFA players would have made this team Click in a big way...........yet, they are all from a different country........ the first being from Finnland, the second from the States and the last one from Montreal. The problem is not how to do it..........but to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I've heard alot of comments regarding the fact that the finnish style looked alot like north americans. grit, hard work..well, look at koivu, he's the best example. other than saku, I can't remeber a decent finn in our team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I don't care if they Finnish. Swedish, Canadian, Swiss, German, Russian, Latvian, American, Belorussian, Slovakian, Czech, Austrian, Lithuanian, or Danish as long as they are a good fit for the hockey team. What do you have against the French? Show Huet some love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 I'm not saying that because they are having olympic successes... I'm saying that because Markov has Kovalev, Plek, Bulis and Zed are another language clique. Koivu has no one from his nationality AND anyways, Finns usually kick asses... so it's a two in one acquisition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 would be nice to bring saku a friend. would jarko ruutu be available. he'd be a nice fit with begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 TUOMO RUUTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 we can always dream...tuomo ruutu is probably the only untoughtable player in chicago...would be awesome though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mont Royale Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 would be nice to bring saku a friend. Puppies are nice, and don't use up any cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 In todays Journal de Montréal, Selane said that Saku as been trying for 3 years to convince him to come to Montreal because they are made to play together, but he prefers the sun and heat of California. Hope that Anaheim is not interested in resigning him this summer so he will have no choice to go somewhere else then California....say Montreal. Selanne - Koivu - Ryder Perezhogin - ? - Kovalev (Ribs as to go) We would have 2 nice first lines this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 (edited) I would love to get Selanne or Lehtinen. But how? So, let's examine who is movable and who isn't. IMO: Touchable: Locke, Dagenais, Ribeiro, Bulis, Sundstrom, Zednik, Grabovsky, Aubin & D'Agostini - also 2006 or 2007 picks. (If Bob mentioned half of these names on the phone with Burke, he'd probably ask Bob where he gets his bomb weed) UnTouchable: Koivu, Kovalev, Ryder, Plekanec, Higgins, Perezhogin, Bégin, A. & S. Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Chipchura & Price. No tradable worth: Bonk, Downey & Murray. The problem is all the touchable players have about as much worth as a pylon right now except for Bulis who I would hate to see go. Anyway, I'm at a loss to see how we can get Selanne. Brian Burke isn't going to want Locke, Dagenais, Ribeiro, Bulis, Sundstrom or Zednik only. So, what do you if you were Gainey? The only solution will hurt. That is, pick a "touchable" to get the return desired. Is it worth it? I don't think so. Why make a sideways move for a potential UFA to make a playoff run that will get us...well, no cup? So, it'd better turn out to be another Kovalev scenario. We MUST be able to lock up a "Selanne" or a "Lehtinen" long term - IMO So, let's keep DREAMING. Maybe Gainey will surprise us. Edited February 25, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Selanne is a UFA Athletique Canadien so trading a big name player or prospect for him unless he is under a long-term contract is completely ridiculous, and even then Selanne is not a young guy I would be weary of giving him anything more than a two-year deal. Ruutu would be amazing if he can stay healthy for a long period of time he will become a spectacular player, anyone who has had the privilege of watching him play is well aware of his worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 So, it'd better turn out to be another Kovalev scenario. We MUST be able to lock up a "Selanne" or a "Lehtinen" long term - IMO So, let's keep DREAMING. Maybe Gainey will surprise us. Precisely Kovalev we got for a Player in the AHL Why would we need to give up more than that for Selanne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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