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I remember the last time we traded an all star hall of fame goaltender, that went well. For the avalanche.

Galchenyuk is three years younger than Nazem Kadri. What was Kadri two years ago? (that would still be 1 year older than Galchenyuk is today, but the same experience in the NHL). He was Nearly run out of town as a weak defensively, cancer in the dressing room, not producing forward. He missed a practice and was suspended by the team. The leafs had patience, hired a new coach to work with him, and look what they have now, a 30 goal 65 point centre who got Selke votes.

Or he could have acquired just one forward with skill as a deadline rental for a cheap price. Habs gave up... Sven Andrighetto, a 4th round pick, a 6th round pick, and got 1g 1a in 50 gp from 3 scrubs. anaheim gave up a conditional second rounder and got Patrick Eaves 12 goals, 5 assists, 17 points in 24 games for Anaheim. Florida gave up a third rounder and got 10 points in 20 games from Vanek Boston gave up a 6th rounder and got Drew Stafford. 10 points in 24 games, He didn't have to gut this roster to add some offence.

I think we should go to new Jersey and get Kovalchuck. I don't know who we give up but can you imagine kovy/chucky/rads. The russian rockets. I love it.

Well at his interview this morning, he said he wanted to come back to Montreal, (loves it) and believes they are able to get the pieces to build a cup winner. Was not ambivalent at all.

I totally agree that Galchenyuk should be allowed to do what he does best out there and that he has the skill to be able to do it. But I'm starting to get to the point that I'm wondering what it is that management is seeing in him that is so negative. Therrien kept rotating him between center and the wing, the highly accredited Julian had him buried on the 4th line, Team North America didn't pick him and now I just read that Team USA didn't even ask him to play for them at the World Cup. Are we all overvaluing him? Because we can't afford for our highest draft pick in a generation to be a bust, and I sure hope he isn't.

Has the ship sailed to be the #1C? Maybe. But that's the problem. This team doesn't have a #1 or #2 C. He's not even getting a shot now to be the second line centre. He's getting stuffed into the bottom six. You don't like him as the top centre, due to defensive lapses and inconsistent shifts (or because he doesn't hit enough if you're one of those dorks) that's fine, but that doesn't mean he can't play second line centre. With Lehkonen and Gallagher playing well it made sense to put him between them. He got Lehkonen eventually but had Andrew Shaw as an anchor. This team has a gaping hole at centre and they have a 24 year old with the offensive ability to be a 60 point guy and instead go with Danault and Plekanec. And sometimes Shaw. It's inconceivable. Any other team would have kept Chuck at centre in the top six and rode it until it no longer worked. Therrien and Julien can't do that because bad defensive play is worse than anything in the world in their mind.

On June 30 of last year I would say that the Canadiens had a good chance at a Cup run. Most of the analysts also agreed that montreal would be the best Canadian team and in all likelihood, a top 10 finisher. On Jul 1, MB got the best FA not named Stamkos. Given the positive outlook, I think MB did fine mostly by NOT paying for goods we can't afford.

Good; 1st place all year long, Pacioretty's offense, Price's play most games, adding Shaw, Muller, Radulov, Weber & Lehkonen. Bad; Beaulieu & McCarron's development, Reway sickness & firing Mikey. Ugly; Gallagher's broken hand & Plekanec's offense

Idiotic and inane first sentence and yes. Because I have zero interest in Molson firing this GM and searching for a new one at this juncture. Not that Molson wont do it, like you say, he has little balls and if receives too much fan/political pressure, he may try and get a Julien Brisbois perhaps? or goes 'off the reservation' and goes for McGuire!

And are Hawks peddling Toews & Kane, because they each only had 1g and got swept by big underdog? Cant say Pacioretty didn't have another super reg season...so you are simply referring to the 6 games in one series as the main reason to trade a perennial 30+ goal scorer and 23yr old with 200+points under his belt...you normally have smart posts, but this isn't one of those Meller.

As a Toronto resident that doesn't actually hate the Leafs it's impressive what they have done and the future for Matthews. But I still believe in my Habs, if they can get that centre they have always been waiting for we can still do it. Viva La Montreal!!!

Because there has been some focus on Chuck: - Started Game 1 on the LW fourth line - Started Game 2 on the LW fourth line - Started Game 3 at C third line - Started Game 4 at C third line - Started Game 5 at C second line - Started Game 6 at LW third line He spent 5/6 games starting in the bottom six but still had three assists. Meanwhile, Danault was on the first line the entire series, glued to Pacioretty and Radulov, and only put up two assists (in game two and three). Am I excusing his performance? No, but until I see this team actually put faith in Galchenyuk, everything he does is going to have a big *

yes sir....and same goes for Weber...in my humble opinion, Web was the best, most consistent player on our team. When he isn't on the ice, it shows. When he was off for a fighting major, our D was running around, scrambling.

Funny how 90%+ picked Habs to beat Rangers...I assume because they thought Habs had a better team, or key players than the Rangers, who are a solid team as well and Vegas had Habs as slight favourite and NY was not a huge underdog at all. So it seems only because they didn't meet 90%+ of fans expectations in one series, mostly due to a hot Ranger goalie who didn't let in any soft goals and stopped key breakaways, that all of a sudden the team needs to be blown up?

i hear Vegas is looking to recruit fans...

Found:

the trade Price gang is coming out on social media...its gonna be a long summer of listening to this ...

Yes.

follow nhltrashtalkers on instagram, I'm sure its coming

Quick, someone make a casperetty meme

If Price gets traded then MB has been a total failure IMO...first PK and then Price (not to mention the hack job on Galcheyuk)...MB can write a bestseller : How I Facked Up the HABS instead of trading Price let's just get rid of MB.

And waste of time for Habs. One defensive French retread coach for another.

The good: radulov and lekonan (who thankfully escaped the habs internal development system). the bad: the Subban trade and the continuous mis-handling of galchenyuk the ugly: not firing le genius at the end of last year (and would have allowed us avoiding the bad)

The case for the prosecution is straightforward. Despite inheriting great pieces (Price, PK, Patches, etc.) he has failed to make the team a legitimate Cup contender in five years of GMing. Moreover: 1. Following the 2015 playoff loss to Tampa, which inspired this thread in the first place, he misidentified the team's fundamental needs. That was a close, hard-fought series in which the Habs simply could not get the timely goals they needed and therefore lost. Like the old-school plodder he has revealed himself to be, he blamed Leadership and Character rather than skill. In consequence he made a raft of decisions to add Leadership which amounted to lateral moves or else tweaks to the bottom end of the roster and ignoring laughable deficiencies in the top 6. These decisions locked us into bad contracts (Weber & Shaw) while making us four years older at the key #1 defenceman position; yet the end result was EXACTLY the same as in 2015: a team losing a hard-fought series because it can't score. All he did was burn two more years of this core's limited time. 2. Following the 2016, he should have done what any other GM would have done and fired Therrien. A new coach would have come in from the get-go and this would have accomplished two things. First, it would have given him a new set of eyes on the group he had, instead of continuing to depend on the biases and preferences of the same guy - Therrien - who had been managing the players since 2013. This might have prevented stupidities like trading Subban. Second, it would have given him an entire season in which to adjust the team to accommodate the coach. We now have to wait for next season to trade the Galys and Beaulieus who Julien can't work with. Another year burned. 3. The farm team. Where is the talent pipeline other than Sergachev? Where is the player development? Does anyone still believe Galy and Beaulieu will have great futures with us? Lehkonen was developed in Europe, not within. The result of these inadequacies is that the current Habs' core represents the PEAK of what the Bergevin era is likely to give us. The future looks worse, not better. I can think of no reason for retaining his services. Sure, he's made some good moves taken in isolation (Radu). But if the goal is to win a Stanley Cup - not simply make the playoffs - then his overall body of work is a failure, and one that offers no reason for optimism than he can fix it. Based on the past year's work, he can't even be trusted to properly identify the problem.

This is the the question for me: Do we even want this guy to keep tinkering with the team? He traded a franchise player and fired a coach and the results were out in 6. He signed Radulov, great, but he also nickel and dimed him when other teams offered another year. The move worked, but it's the thinking that concerns me. The thinking being that Radulov was another short term bandaid for the offense. Which makes me wonder...does this guy understand the concept of "offense?" Because he certainly doesn't take it seriously. I don't have confidence in Bergevin making the right decision. He'll probably trade Galchenyuk and Beaulieu for Sean Couturier or Ryan Kesler. Can Bergevin learn the lesson? Maybe after this series. He's out of excuses about coaching, character and leadership. The team worked their ass off, they traded for the grittiest grits that ever gritted, and they have a guy good enough to make the top-6 on Team Canada! However, at this point, it's obvious he couldn't build an adequate top-6 with a 100 year head start. It's like Alec Baldwin said in Glengarry Glenn Ross "I told (Mitch and Murray) to do themselves a favor and fire your effin ass." The clock has struck 12, and MB is officially a pumpkin. He'll be gone at the end if next year.

Havent you heard repeated ad nauseam? Bergevin is a clueless idiot, just read the last 15 pages or so of this thread and you will see it is so! Give up now, best buy that Matthews' jersey and jump on Leaf bandwagon!

i hope you're kidding...he is not good down the middle.. geez..come on MoLG?? Don't start with the numbers...his wingers are chasing the puck all game long. and covering up for his bone-headed mistakes...Max won't play with him at center...its just too facking frustrating to chase pucks each and every game

100% agreed. IMO he is approaching milbury like competence.