BCHabnut Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Glen looked pretty good tonight. Lots of faceoff wins, nice try on the breakaway. That extra faceoff guy should help/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 But why?! Begin traded and then Glen Metropolit claimed? It's been a while since I disagreed this much. Must have been the Van Allen trade... Was Begin left handed? That would be a hockey reason why. Did Begin ask to be traded somewhere that he could play? That would a personal reason why. I'm not sure what there is to disagree about these moves. Gainey was looking for a right handed centreman and he found one for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 But why?! Begin traded and then Glen Metropolit claimed? It's been a while since I disagreed this much. Must have been the Van Allen trade... guys read RDS... oh, right, you can't read french Begin asked to be traded because Carbo was not using him. He wanted to prove that he was still a worthy NHLer, and he knew it had to be done elsewhere than in montreal. -Rationale being Kosto and G. Stewart pushed Beginout of the lineup, Begin was mostly used as a Winger, totally inefficient when used as a center (too much for him, can't play "his game" which makes him a good player) Gainey would surely have kept on that way till the deadline, and if he got nothing at the deadline, well, so be it? or maybe trade for an insurance policy. Anyhow... shit happens... and today, it was "good shit" through waivers actually. A right handed center, with some experience, who's been good in games vs the habs (carbo and gainey attested that) and who IS a center (unlike Begin who "can" play center when the team is in trouble) An insurance policy. and actually, you can't blame Gainey. Metropolit didn't deliver Begin's hits... but he was in every way better. -faster, better moves, better with the puck, better without the puck, better with "not taking dumb penalties"... etc. p.s. I still love Begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 guys read RDS... oh, right, you can't read french Begin asked to be traded because Carbo was not using him. He wanted to prove that he was still a worthy NHLer, and he knew it had to be done elsewhere than in montreal. -Rationale being Kosto and G. Stewart pushed Beginout of the lineup, Begin was mostly used as a Winger, totally inefficient when used as a centre (too much for him, can't play "his game" which makes him a good player) Gainey would surely have kept on that way till the deadline, and if he got nothing at the deadline, well, so be it? or maybe trade for an insurance policy. Anyhow... shit happens... and today, it was "good shit" through waivers actually. A right handed centre, with some experience, who's been good in games vs the habs (carbo and gainey attested that) and who IS a centre (unlike Begin who "can" play centre when the team is in trouble) An insurance policy. and actually, you can't blame Gainey. Metropolit didn't deliver Begin's hits... but he was in every way better. -faster, better moves, better with the puck, better without the puck, better with "not taking dumb penalties"... etc. p.s. I still love Begin. Thanks for the synopsis, but it hasnt actually been a secret in the English press that Gainey traded Begin because SB wanted a chance to play elsewhere. A typically classy move by Bob and a typically irrational reaction by our increasingly irrational fanbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It's a bit surreal that these completely minor moves generate so much commentary. That's les canadiens for you. Rightly or wrongly, Begin was not in the coach's plans. So it was only the decent thing to do. Now Bob's added a comparable player - veteran depth at C - so the team is no further behind, and we'll see where Mr. M fits into Carbo's game plan. My only concern in losing Begin was that we lost one of those depth guys who typically raises his game and offers crucial leadership in the playoffs. (c.f. Smolinski & Brisebois last year). Bob's compensated for the loss. The end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilan25 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 HELLO GUYS! METROPOLIT IS A FREE INSURANCE POLICY CALM THE $#@??$% DOWN. Lol, I read a dozen of posts of people panicking. 1. Begin was on the bench, so Bob wanted to ACCOMODATE him. that's a pure empathy move. 2. Metropolit was on waivers and after Chipper we've got NOTHING at centre. so don't go into thinking that he's gonna play with Kovalev and what not. or that he's "THE" solution.. Take your pills, take a deep breath and understand that he is A FREE INSURANCE POLICY. and that he's actually better than Chipper right now (that's my bet) Nailed it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilan25 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Bob is absolutely getting hammered on french language message boards. The popular opinion is he basically traded a francophone (Begin) for an anglophone (Metropolit). C'mon Bob, prove everyone wrong!!! Wait till Dandenault goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Wait till Dandenault goes. After Breeze's mistakes the past couple games, I hope Dandy is playing tomorrow on D.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matsnaslundsuperfn Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It's a bit surreal that these completely minor moves generate so much commentary. That's les canadiens for you. Rightly or wrongly, Begin was not in the coach's plans. So it was only the decent thing to do. Now Bob's added a comparable player - veteran depth at C - so the team is no further behind, and we'll see where Mr. M fits into Carbo's game plan. My only concern in losing Begin was that we lost one of those depth guys who typically raises his game and offers crucial leadership in the playoffs. (c.f. Smolinski & Brisebois last year). Bob's compensated for the loss. The end. You know, I agree Begin brought his game up... work ethic on the ice. I agree with in fact alot of what you've written. Although, my only thing with Steve was his undisciplined play. I enjoyed watching the guy play... but he was DIRTY, and finding ways at getting penalties at the most inopportune times. I liked the player and it could have been so much different but I'll have to agree with Carbo's decision not to play him. If watching last nights game is any indication Bob has MORE than compensated for Begin's loss. METROPOLIT is a fire-cracker. He never stopped skating!!! woohoo!!! of course time will only tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habiman Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I like Begin, but Metro is a more versitile player with more upside come playoff time....But, I don't think we'll see the kind of game Metro put up last night against his Philly every night... Gainey should be more concerned with the defense at this stage...While the offense is struggling, the habs get Tangay back soon and that should help... Hammer and Komi turned it over in the neutral zone multiple times last night... Breezer gave one up on the PP and almost gave up another after getting completely undressed...Schneider is a nice addition on PP, but too SMALL! If he can nail down a long-term contract, Bob should go get Boumeister [almost] at any cost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan84 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 So far Metropolit looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 So far Metropolit looks good! Except for his first 2 shifts yes he has been better then Begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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