dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Detroit Red Wings (3-1-1) Projected Lineup Pavel Datsyuk - Henrik Zetterberg - Justin Abdelkader Gustav Nyquist - Riley Sheahan - Tomas Tatar Tomas Jurco - Darren Helm - Andrej Nestrasil Drew Miller - Luke Glendening - Joakim Andersson Niklas Kronwall - Jonathan Ericsson Jakub Kindl - Brendan Smith Kyle Quincey - Danny DeKeyser Jimmy Howard Jonas Gustavsson Injuries: Johan Franzen, Anthony Mantha (SOIR) Scratches: Daniel Cleary, Brian Lashoff, Stephen Weiss Montreal Canadiens (5-1-0) Projected Lineup Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Brendan Gallagher Alex Galchenyuk - Tomas Plekanec - P-A Parenteau Rene Bourque - Lars Eller - Dale Weise Brandon Prust - Manny Malhotra - Travis Moen Alexei Emelin - P.K. Subban Andrei Markov - Tom Gilbert Jarred Tinordi - Mike Weaver Carey Price Dustin Tokarski Injuries: Crisp, Fournier, Gregoire, Thrower (all SOIR) Scratches: Nathan Beaulieu, Jiri Sekac Team Leaders Detroit Montreal Game Notes Goals Nyquist (4) Plekanec (4) Puck Drop: 7:30 PM EST Assists Zetterberg (5) Emelin/Galchenyuk (4) National TV: N/A Points Zetterberg (6) Plekanec (7) Regional TV: City-M, RDS, FS-D PIMS Franzen (8) Subban (14) English Radio: TSN 690 +/- Kindl/Nyquist (+3) Pacioretty (+7) French Radio: FM 98.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've watched a few red wings games this year. They move the Puck really well in the offensive zone. Montreal might have some trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thanks for the thread, Brian. In terms of broadcasters, what is FS-D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thanks for the thread, Brian. In terms of broadcasters, what is FS-D? Fox Sports Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Part of my girlfriend's b-day gift always involves me buying her a pair of Habs tickets (how clever, I know). Tonight is the night. GO HABS GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Fox Sports Detroit. Thanks... Interesting how few names I really recognize on that roster. Clearly the old "quasi-dynasty" days are done for this most distinguished of modern hockey clubs, although they're still a quality team of course. I always liked how they play - very "Montreal Canadiens." But I also sort of resent Detroit a little bit for being so outrageously lucky in having ridiculously late-round picks - Datsyuk and Zetterberg - become franchise players. We had 10 years of oooooh-ing and aaahhh-ing over what a perfect organization they are; yet if it hadn't been for what were basically two massive flukes, no one would ever have said anything of the sort. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Based on the practice lines yesterday, if Weise plays, it will be in place of Sekac. Bournival and Moen were also splitting time while Beaulieu once again looked to be the odd man out on defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I assume Bournival must be in, otherwise why call him up so quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thanks... Interesting how few names I really recognize on that roster. Clearly the old "quasi-dynasty" days are done for this most distinguished of modern hockey clubs, although they're still a quality team of course. I always liked how they play - very "Montreal Canadiens." But I also sort of resent Detroit a little bit for being so outrageously lucky in having ridiculously late-round picks - Datsyuk and Zetterberg - become franchise players. We had 10 years of oooooh-ing and aaahhh-ing over what a perfect organization they are; yet if it hadn't been for what were basically two massive flukes, no one would ever have said anything of the sort. Oh well. We had a fluke at the same time as Datsyuk named Andrei Markov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 I assume Bournival must be in, otherwise why call him up so quickly? He was sent down solely to play in the two weekend games, regardless of what his NHL playing status is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sekac and Beaulieu stayed on the ice after practice with Tokarski, that's probably a sign that Sekac is out and Weise back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 We had a fluke at the same time as Datsyuk named Andrei Markov. True - but we didn't get two of him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Sekac and Beaulieu stayed on the ice after practice with Tokarski, that's probably a sign that Sekac is out and Weise back in. Chantal Desjardins confirmed Sekac out. Don't like that. Scratch Bourque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuternoga Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Prepare for Almost Bourque moments. GO HABS GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Bournival/Sekac - Eller - Weise/Sekac Prust - Malhotra - Moen/Bournival Looks like a huge improvement to me if you ask me. No Bourque? Better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 We had a fluke at the same time as Datsyuk named Andrei Markov. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Well Weise being back in will make many happy. And wont hurt Sekac any to rest a game or two and have some hot dogs with Nate the Great. (who knows how le Genius makes his roster decisions, sort of like a victorious strategy of Sun Tzu one might say. ) but at least Rene is not longer leading +/-, he is now tied for 611th, he is ready to break out and rip it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 10 worst +/- players and the teams they play for: 10. David Moss (Arizona, 23rd) 09. Jamie McGinn (Colorado, 26th) 08. Lars Eller (Montreal, 2nd) 07. Luke Schenn (Philadelphia, 24th) 06. Alex Wennberg (Columbus, 15th) 05. Leon Draisatil (Edmonton, 27th) 04. Teddy Purcell (Edmonton, 27th) 03. Rene Bourque (Montreal, 2nd) 02. David Perron (Edmonton, 27th) 01. Andrej Meszaros (Buffalo, 30th) Looks weird when you look at it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Bournival/Sekac - Eller - Weise/Sekac Prust - Malhotra - Moen/Bournival Looks like a huge improvement to me if you ask me. No Bourque? Better team. Bourque in one of his slumps plays like moen at the top of his game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Bourque in one of his slumps plays like moen at the top of his game Bourque is a -7. Moen is even. They play a minute difference, Moen three less games. Here's a scary stat for you. Bourque has played 134 games with the Canadiens, plenty amounts of it on the top six. He has 21 goals for it. Moen is a bottom six player who would sometimes infuriate Habs fans by getting to play in the top six to replace an injured player during the Jacques Martin days. In 161 games (11-12 to 14-15), he has 13 goals. Only 8 goals less than Bourque. Bourque's best goal scoring total on the Habs was 9 in a season. Moen? 9! Moen is on another echelon as a defensive player compared to Bourque and scoring only 8 less goals in 27 games when one is a known "power forward" and the other is a known "grinder" is pretty awful. Seriously awful. Brandon Prust, Mr. "Bottom Six" himself has 28 points in 96 games as a Hab. Bourque in the same amount of time has 30 points in the same amount of games. Prust is just two points shy of Bourque's totals in the same amount of time. Rene Bourque hasn't slumped while on the Habs. He merely overachieved in Calgary and did it again in the last post-season. He's Steve Bernier with job security. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 10 worst +/- players and the teams they play for: 10. David Moss (Arizona, 23rd) 09. Jamie McGinn (Colorado, 26th) 08. Lars Eller (Montreal, 2nd) 07. Luke Schenn (Philadelphia, 24th) 06. Alex Wennberg (Columbus, 15th) 05. Leon Draisatil (Edmonton, 27th) 04. Teddy Purcell (Edmonton, 27th) 03. Rene Bourque (Montreal, 2nd) 02. David Perron (Edmonton, 27th) 01. Andrej Meszaros (Buffalo, 30th) Looks weird when you look at it that way. Last year 10 worst in play offs Plekanic Handzuis Wiznewski Bergland Chaison Lewis Coburn Hedja Richards Lecavilier looks about right to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 You don't waste a chance to take a shot at Plekanec, do you? His point was that it's weird that the Habs, who sit second in the league, have two players in the bottom 10 in +/-, especially when you consider that the rest of the bottom 10 are from teams much lower in the standings. The two players specifically mentioned were Bourque and Eller. The post had nothing to do with Plekanec but you had to get a shot in anyways. We get it, you're not his biggest fan. Not every post has to remind everyone of that, especially when you're responding to a post that in no way, shape, or form, mentions Plekanec. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 haha. bravo brian! lots of negative nellies here..you'd think we were 0-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Pleks is awesome. I'd only trade him if the deal was very sweet. Bourque is garbage. Eller's never done anything to show he's not just another Bourque, but he's young enough we can give him a bit of time, yet. Not much time, mind you. It's this season or I'm done with him. Between Bourque and Eller we're paying 6.8 million a year. If you combined Bourque and Eller's offensive production together, it wouldn't be enough to warrant either of their salaries, individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 haha. bravo brian! lots of negative nellies here..you'd think we were 0-6 I think the Habs have not been on their game in the wins and there's a lot of room for improvement but I'm also happy with the results and I'd much prefer winning games we shouldn't over losing games we should have won. I'll take an "underdog" Habs team over constantly losing games you should win like the Sharks and Capitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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