habs rule Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 17 hours ago, DON said: I miss Crankshaft! Hey shed no tears for Crankshaft, he and some buddies invented a way to fill 3 beer mugs at a time. They plan to sell it to colleges to reduce the beer line ups. Ya just gotta know that is a winner, and serves the greater good. Could have used that when I was in university, I might have stayed longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I wish I could have a nickname like crankshaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, habs rule said: Hey shed no tears for Crankshaft, he and some buddies invented a way to fill 3 beer mugs at a time. They plan to sell it to colleges to reduce the beer line ups. Ya just gotta know that is a winner, and serves the greater good. Could have used that when I was in university, I might have stayed longer. Come on, those 8 years you spent getting that B.A. degree was more than long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I wonder if NHL owners would be more open to moving Ottawa to Quebec City, than moving a Carolina, Columbus US team north? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, DON said: Come on, those 8 years you spent getting that B.A. degree was more than long enough. couldn't stay there 8 years beer line ups were too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, DON said: I wonder if NHL owners would be more open to moving Ottawa to Quebec City, than moving a Carolina, Columbus US team north? They might be. Would Eugene Melnyk want to do that; does he want to sell? They just got the rights to redevelop some land downtown that will be the site of their new arena in the next few years, I can't see him turning around and selling and/or moving now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 hours ago, dlbalr said: They might be. Would Eugene Melnyk want to do that; does he want to sell? They just got the rights to redevelop some land downtown that will be the site of their new arena in the next few years, I can't see him turning around and selling and/or moving now. Melnyk has stated quite categorically that he is not selling. Under any but the most dire of circumstances. But who knows next week could be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs owned the 70's Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 "Montreal Canadiens traded Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for Phillip Danault and a second-round draft pick in 2018" This looks good in hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 hours ago, Habs owned the 70's said: "Montreal Canadiens traded Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann to the Chicago Blackhawks for Phillip Danault and a second-round draft pick in 2018" This looks good in hindsight. i'd have loved to get Weise back as a UFA. Damn Philadelphia. Maybe in four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 On 2016-10-23 at 8:53 AM, Jeff Price (no relation) said: i'd have loved to get Weise back as a UFA. Damn Philadelphia. Maybe in four years. I don't. Additions we made since Weise left totally make him expandable, IMO. Especially Paul Byron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I don't see Paul Byron as possessing quite the same skillset. He lacks Weise's blinding speed (he was faster than everyone else on our team), thick skull, size and physicality. Byron's a tiny little guy with better than average speed and a pretty good defensive sense (better than Weise's by far). Not saying I don't love Byron, but I don't see him as having taken Weise's spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jeff Price (no relation) said: I don't see Paul Byron as possessing quite the same skillset. He lacks Weise's blinding speed (he was faster than everyone else on our team), thick skull, size and physicality. Byron's a tiny little guy with better than average speed and a pretty good defensive sense (better than Weise's by far). Not saying I don't love Byron, but I don't see him as having taken Weise's spot. Maybe I'm alone here, but I don't think Weise comes close to Byron's speed. I always thought he was a pretty average... well everything. And although he's a bigger body, I don't think Weise was as physical as some would make him out to be. Byron's pretty scrappy, IMO. I think Byron will put up more points and having him on the PK makes other teams respect his speed. I don't know if I'd call him an upgrade, but I'd definitely take Byron over Weise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I also believe that Byron is faster than Weise. In fact, I believe Byron is NHL top 5 in terms of speed. At least top 5. Grabner, Larkin, McDavid... who else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Dale Weise was tested as the fastest skater on the Canucks team, and they certainly weren't a slow team. I hadn't seen any comparisons of him in Montreal, but Weise could outskate the entire Canucks before we got him, and he certainly didn't slow down in Montreal. The reason Weise and Byron aren't really comparable, is Weise is not a defensive forward. He's got a goal-scorer's brain in a checker's body. He's a very good "cherry picker," and can put the puck in the net with surprising frequency no matter what line you put him on. (I'd love to have him on the wing of our third line with David Desharnais.) If you're using him to kill penalties, you're misusing him. He's a 5-on-5 and occasional powerplay guy (when your other wingers are out of gas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well... this is what you'd like Dale Weise to be. In reality, he's a player with some skills who never had more than 29 pts in a season in the NHL. Now, did he got misused by all of his coaches ? Maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Jeff Price (no relation) said: I don't see Paul Byron as possessing quite the same skillset. He lacks Weise's blinding speed (he was faster than everyone else on our team), OK, you best cut back on medication or maybe you simply got the names backwards? Byron is likely the quickest player in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Ya, Dale weise's brain is just oozing goals. Just like you said David Desharnais is the best third line centre in the game. Your out to lunch bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, JoeLassister said: I also believe that Byron is faster than Weise. In fact, I believe Byron is NHL top 5 in terms of speed. At least top 5. Grabner, Larkin, McDavid... who else ? ....Gaborik? I enjoy both players but I would take Weise on my team over Byron personally. I hope he has a great season but Byron is usually a player who will score a nice shorthanded breakaway goal and then be off the score sheet for the next 7-8 games without anyone even realizing it. Weise didn't rack up the points either but come playoff time, I'd want him on the ice even and especially during 5 on 5 overtime. He scored some clutch goals. 4 GWG in 38 playoff games. That would translate into 8-9 GWG in a calendar season. Call it what it is but I think there's something to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 There was a poll done in Habs dressing room about who the most underrated player is( or something along those lines) and basically the entire team said Byron. I may have heard that on here, actually? I've talked alot of shit about Byron, but the guy can play. His speed alone is insane. His short handed goal against Boston was proof of that. Gotta be the fastest guy in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I've moved the Weise discussion into here from the trade proposal thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Stogey24 said: Ya, Dale weise's brain is just oozing goals. Just like you said David Desharnais is the best third line centre in the game. Your out to lunch bud. Post of the week right there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Stogey24 said: There was a poll done in Habs dressing room about who the most underrated player is( or something along those lines) and basically the entire team said Byron. I may have heard that on here, actually? I've talked alot of shit about Byron, but the guy can play. His speed alone is insane. His short handed goal against Boston was proof of that. Gotta be the fastest guy in the league Byron Fan Club starts behind me, sir. On 2/24/2016 at 1:06 PM, Lovett's Magnatones said: One hundred percent. But at the risk of sounding like some of the broken records around here, I'll deserve judgement until this time next year when he has three goals and two trips on the IR. One goal down, two to go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 hours ago, JoeLassister said: Well... this is what you'd like Dale Weise to be. In reality, he's a player with some skills who never had more than 29 pts in a season in the NHL. Now, did he got misused by all of his coaches ? Maybe... I called him a third liner, a goal scorer's brain in a checking forward's body. 29 points with 10-14 goals is a legit offensive third line player. (You can argue he spent some of that on lines he shouldn't have been on, but then again Desharnais was feeding him. And he's now the third line.) And again, I'm not comparing him to Byron. They don't fill the same role. Byron's not putting up 29 points, though. That's not why he's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 22 hours ago, Stogey24 said: Just like you said David Desharnais is the best third line centre in the game. Desharnais is the best third line centre in the game. Find another that consistently puts up 0.6 points per game. If your third line centre averages 40th in scoring among centers, he's better than two thirds of the second line centers and all of the third liners.(1st line 1-30, 2nd line 31-60, 3rd line 61-90.) Paid like a third line centre @3.5 mil. Points like a second line centre. Anybody who complains about him is delusional. Find me another 45-60 point guy for your third line for less money. He's a second line talent making third line money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 In his 2nd NHL game, Malcolm Subban was pulled from the game after giving up 3 goals in the 2nd period. His 1st NHL game? Pulled from the game after giving up 3 goals in the 2nd period. God, that's gotta be demoralizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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