DON Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Oh well, hopefully Radulov is next in line to be inked to more term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I've always liked Big Game Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Kinda early to do this, right? Like the Pleks deal. And don't we have a few quality net-minders in the system? Small potatoes either way, and Montoya's been solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 This team has needed a good backup since buds left. If it is cost effective, its a good move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerebusClone Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Bergevin could also be setting the table for the upcoming Price negotiations. We should not ignore the possibility that Price may look at his options next year instead of resigning blindly, for example he may look at the possibility of going back home to play for Vancouver, or he may not feel Montreal is doing enough to become a top contender, and therefore may look elsewhere to avoid having a legacy of the great goaltender who never won the cup. So on one hand Bergevin probably wants to make Price more comfortable. I'm guessing Price gets along well with Montoya, Montoya isn't out to take his spot as number 1, he's very experienced, he's been quite good, and that removes some pressure off Price's shoulders. On the other hand, in the catastrophic case were Price decides to not resign with Montreal, Bergevin will need to change his plans, and having an experienced quality goaltender like Montoya will help, especially if the Plan B is one of the kids like Charlie Lindgren. Either way signing Montoya is probably a good thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I don't see what has been so great about Montoya, myself. It's been an under-discussed fact of this season that Condon - who was garbage last season - has significantly better numbers this year. We may have bet on the wrong horse. In any case, this gives us a goalie to expose in the expansion draft, so I suppose it's a decent move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I don't see what has been so great about Montoya, myself. It's been an under-discussed fact of this season that Condon - who was garbage last season - has significantly better numbers this year. We may have bet on the wrong horse. In any case, this gives us a goalie to expose in the expansion draft, so I suppose it's a decent move. Montoya was putting up starter numbers until the Columbus game broke him. And yes, this has everything to do with the expansion draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Montoya was putting up starter numbers until the Columbus game broke him. That's true. What are his numbers if we discount that one game, I wonder? In any case, 11 games is insufficient data...the contract has to be informed by his wider career. Just looking at his career numbers, he seems to oscillate quite oddly between strong and weak seasons. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That's true. What are his numbers if we discount that one game, I wonder? In any case, 11 games is insufficient data...the contract has to be informed by his wider career. Just looking at his career numbers, he seems to oscillate quite oddly between strong and weak seasons. Weird. 10/13 vs. Buffalo: .968 10/15 vs. Ottawa: .921 10/18 vs. Pittsburgh: Shutout 10/26 vs. Brooklyn: .929 11/04 vs. Columbus: .750 11/13 vs. Chicago: .914 11/18 vs. Carolina: .833 12/06 vs. St. Louis: .903 12/23 vs. Columbus: .917 12/29 vs. Florida: .939 So with exception to three games (11/04, 11/18, 12/06) he's been a .910+ goaltender, which is a low end starter/very good backup. Only 10 games at this point I feel is pretty low for him. He played a lot in October but between 11/19 and 12/23, he only playing one game was bad goalie management by Therrien. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: 10/13 vs. Buffalo: .968 10/15 vs. Ottawa: .921 10/18 vs. Pittsburgh: Shutout 10/26 vs. Brooklyn: .929 11/04 vs. Columbus: .750 11/13 vs. Chicago: .914 11/18 vs. Carolina: .833 12/06 vs. St. Louis: .903 12/23 vs. Columbus: .917 12/29 vs. Florida: .939 So with exception to three games (11/04, 11/18, 12/06) he's been a .910+ goaltender, which is a low end starter/very good backup. Only 10 games at this point I feel is pretty low for him. He played a lot in October but between 11/19 and 12/23, he only playing one game was bad goalie management by Therrien. I still think that that alone doesn't justify a contract. The argument has to b3 that his career body of work justifies it...which it probably does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I still think that that alone doesn't justify a contract. The argument has to b3 that his career body of work justifies it...which it probably does. 1. Montreal needs a goalie exposed for the expansion draft 2. The deal is so cheap if Montoya craps out they can stuff him in the minors at a $100K charge and call up Lindgren. 3. We're talking a two year extension at $1M. I think his career justifies it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, Machine of Loving Grace said: 1. Montreal needs a goalie exposed for the expansion draft 2. The deal is so cheap if Montoya craps out they can stuff him in the minors at a $100K charge and call up Lindgren. 3. We're talking a two year extension at $1M. I think his career justifies it. On the second point, it'd be even less than that on a buried cap charge. The minimum salary next year jumps to $650k which makes the amount that can be buried jump to $1.025 million. I'm just walking in the door (which is why there's no write-up yet on the site, I'll get to that shortly) and I'm pleased with this news. Good cap hit for a good backup and it solves the expansion issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: That's true. What are his numbers if we discount that one game, I wonder? In any case, 11 games is insufficient data...the contract has to be informed by his wider career. Just looking at his career numbers, he seems to oscillate quite oddly between strong and weak seasons. Weird. He's a pedestrian 4-4-1, but his GAA is 1.98 and save percentage is .932. Slightly better than Carey's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 For Expansion draft reasons, the move had to be made. Its a cheap deal for a decent backup. I'm fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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