habsrock_6 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 according to hockeytraderumors.com, nikolei zherdev is about to be traded to the habs for sheldon souray and alex perezhogin. source: http://www.hockeytraderumors.com/modules.p...le&sid=6750 I think this would be a geat trade for montreal, because they could get a huge franchise player in zherdev with unbelievable skills, and although they lose a huge player on the blueline, the habs would save cap space to fill in that hole. Zherdev - UFA/Trade - Kovalev Higgins - Koivu - Ryder Kost - Pleks - Zednik Downy- Bonk- Begin Markov - Komi UFA - Rivet Boullion- Dandy Huet Danis that would be an amazing team, dont forget i left out abby and ribeiro to be traded. i sure hope bob pulls this trade off, wat do u guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Forget the blueline, Perezhogin could be a potential two-way player for Montreal for seasons to come. He and Higgins played a lot of time on the penalty kill together last season. And since you don't have a first line center penciled in your line-up, it's really depenedent on who you want to sign, and how realistic that suggestion is. I wouldn't make that deal for both Perezhogin and Souray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I could see it happening if Zherdev was a centre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Habs can't afford to lose a top 4 d-man just to gain a some offense. Although Zherdev's a special offensive talent, overall he doesn't have that much over Perezhogin who has a little more character and is more defensively responsible. Maybe if C-Bus throws in Fedorov... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nasty Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I think you are confusing Perezhogin for Plekanec. I don't recall Perezhogin have any penalty kill time...he did get some powerplay time. Plekanec played a lot of pk with Higgins and is much better defensively. Perezhogin is expendable IMO with Kostitsyn ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komisarek the Cruncher Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 No thanks for Zherdev. Another talented player who only plays when he feels like it...not realy what we need. Besides, Perez and Souray seems costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 If Bob had a plan to replace Souray with an equal or better Dman then I would do this in a second. Perezhogin has some talent but I don't think he will ever be a superstar. Not to mention with Kostitsyn ready to play there may not be a spot for Perezhogin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Lets do it. All Zherdev needs is a few thousand habs fans chanting his name to keep him in check. Netting 50 odd points for CBJ is a whole lot bet than what Perez did this year. I know ice time is a factor, but I don't think we can pass up on pure talent like this guy possesses. I will miss Sheldon's shot but you have to pay to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nasty Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 The rumour site says it got the source from TSN...I don't see it anywhere on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koivu-11 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Zherdev=Kovalev , I don't think montreal really needs another kovalev in the team that plays when he wants to ok he has a lot of talent and besides that? And Perezhogin=Afrinagenov, so In the end give the kid some time it was his first year, don't jump down his throat and say rumors already. Afrinagenov sucked also when he first started out, Perezhogin just needs to find his place in the habs and it should be soon. Hes a dynamic winger. And then your also giving up Montreals Top defensmen theres no way we can afford that unless Gainey goes after a guy like chara or jovo (wich i don't see happenin) This rumor is prob just thrown out there so no thanks don't want another lazy russian lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 If my post implied Perez was anything but great, my mistake. I would hate to see him leave. I wish we could keep him. I also know that it is a bit of a gamble. Zherdev could grab big money and sit around. But aren't we all glad we gambled with Kovalev. Zherdev is a 21 year kid who can tear the roof off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Nasty Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Afinogenov isn't that great a player...yes, he is flashy and creates chances, but he can't finish. If I was to choose between another Kovalev and another Afinogenov...then my choice is easy. Kovalev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromage Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Perezhogin was the most impressive player for MTL during the playoffs. He hits, he creates chances, he's good. That was just a sparkle of what's to come from Perezhogin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Don't use the argument that Perezhogin is only a rookie. He is actually older than Zherdev who has already established himself as one of the top 5 stickhandlers in the league and probably the second flashiest and most dynamic player in the game. A line with Arnott and Kovalev may be the best in the league (when it decides to play, of course). Pretty much, we upgrade a talented young offensive one-way Russian forward with a better one and the price for th eupgrade is a top 4 one-way offensive defenceman with a salary we may want to dump. It may give us enough cap room to pick up Arnott and a d-man to replace Souray. If we canèt find one then we'd have to re-sign Bouillon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 It's a silly rumour that hasn't been backed up by any proof. Sure, for Montreal it would make sense, but why would Columbus want to downgrade a player like Zherdev? In no time he'll be notching 30+ goals a season alongside Nash. The source on HTR (which itself is unreliable) is "TSN broadcasting". Right... If it happened it would be quite the deal for Montreal. Zherdev is a gamebreaker. Perezhogin is good, but not great. Souray could be replaced with a UFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 This one is pretty funny. Zherdev has world class talent. He's arguably the best stickhandler in the NHL and a future superstar. Don't let his 54 point season fool you, he'll go scoring 40 goals a year soon enough. After the Olympic break, he averaged just under a point per game. As a Habs fan, I would be ecstatic if this deal were done. As I Jackets fan, I would be outraged. Since the Habs come first, I suppose I would end up happy. Then again, it would mean I don't get to see Nik play 3-4 times a week. But like I said, this deal is outrageous. Doug MacLean is not the type of GM to trade a young superstar like Zherdev. He loves developing his own talent and Zherdev is just that, a player drafted by MacLead and for MacLean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 (edited) I could live with the trade providing the loss of Souray is addressed. In other Habs news and signings: yawn Edited June 30, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I could live with the trade providing the loss of Souray is addressed. In other Habs news and signings: yawn What do you expect? There is only one more player they have to get signed before tomorrow. They're working on him and finalizing their UFA strategy. They are not focused on the RFA guys at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Perezhogin hitting? Being a spark? Playing on the PK? Why do I also get the feeling people are mistaking Perezhogin and Plekanec?! Weird weird weird... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I could live with the trade providing the loss of Souray is addressed. In other Habs news and signings: yawn Atleast you've signed your guys. I'm still waiting for Blake and Skrastins to sign a new deal, starting to get ancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Atleast you've signed your guys. I'm still waiting for Blake and Skrastins to sign a new deal, starting to get ancy. It is one of the most anoying times of the year. It's like watching this: Or watching water boil or a plant growing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beliveau1 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 It is one of the most anoying times of the year. It's like watching this: Or watching water boil or a plant growing Sorry boys but, for a Canadian boy bred on speed and contact....... it's like watching soccer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Another note about Zherdev. Before Fedorov arrived, I will agree with you people that he was a one-dimensional player who only played when he felt like it. He didn't skate worth a crap in his own end. This is one reason they went out and got Fedorov specifically. He's a fellow Russian who is a great two-way player. After Fedorov came, it was obvious that Zherdev learned a lot from him. His level of effort became much more consistent and he even began back-checking. His overall game improved a lot this last season. Perezhogin hitting? Being a spark? Playing on the PK? I don't recall him ever playing on the PK, but I do remember him skating hard at times and laying down good hits. He layed out a few Canes in the playoff series, about the only Habs action I saw this season. Also, he's the one who possibly ended Keith Primeau's career with a big hit. I think he could end up being a fine two-way player if he puts his mind to it. He's got offensive talent, but has shown no offensive consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 It is one of the most anoying times of the year. It's like watching this: Or watching water boil or a plant growing The section of June after the Finals suck for the most part. For a couple weeks you have the draft and speculation on trades and moving up or whatever. But after that is absolutely dull. Atleast UFA opens up tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Another note about Zherdev. Before Fedorov arrived, I will agree with you people that he was a one-dimensional player who only played when he felt like it. He didn't skate worth a crap in his own end. This is one reason they went out and got Fedorov specifically. He's a fellow Russian who is a great two-way player. After Fedorov came, it was obvious that Zherdev learned a lot from him. His level of effort became much more consistent and he even began back-checking. His overall game improved a lot this last season. I don't recall him ever playing on the PK, but I do remember him skating hard at times and laying down good hits. He layed out a few Canes in the playoff series, about the only Habs action I saw this season. Also, he's the one who possibly ended Keith Primeau's career with a big hit. I think he could end up being a fine two-way player if he puts his mind to it. He's got offensive talent, but has shown no offensive consistency. HAHAHA. You're joking, right? Zhogs accidently backed into him... Certainly not my definition of a big hit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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