Habitforming Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) So the Kostitsyn's and Hamrlik aren't involved in any illegal activities? Then who cares?! Chalk this up to the media looking for anything they can so they can write headlines like "Things get worse for the Canadiens"... how is it worse? They did nothing wrong. Edited February 20, 2009 by Habitforming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 This story isn't even real news to me. I think we've all had friends who would be considered a bit shady by the establishment, and it certainly doesn't make one a criminal when they are the friend of a criminal. This guy was the Kosty's party host...big deal. Unless I find out Andrei and Sergei were out collecting debts for this guy, buying drugs from him, or were present when he and his crew 'whacked' someone, I'm not worried about it. The Habs' lack of a good centre is a bigger story than this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Lapresse has dropped the ball once again. Did they do anything wrong ?? No. Are they accused of anything ?? No. are they stupid because they gave their credit card numbers to the guy ?? Hell YEAH. only one qusteion: how come a mature grown up Man Like Hamrlik got cut up into this crap ?? I can understand Andrei saying to sergei that the guy is trust worthy and sergei figured his brother wouldn't screw him, but Hamklik ?? And geeze, what do you know....it wasn't the kid from Yale being linked to Mobsters so nobody with an Ivy league college degree has done anything stupid ever ?? come on !! If I follow your logic, no football player should be in trouble given that they mostly all come from universities. I'm a well educated, well mannered person but I don't know how I would react, being 21-22, having a shyte load of cash with the entourage that goes with it. And you don't seem to be too well educated by the way you extrapolated what I said, into your blurb above. I never said an Ivy leaguer hasnn't made mistakes. What I said was that it was less likely that it was Higgins, than other persons. And yes i firmly believe that Hggins was far more mature at 21 or 22 than the others at the same age. And thus more likely too steer away from trouble. But maybe thats too complicated for you. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Habsinsideout has Gainey Press Conference audio: Gainey on issues surrounding Habs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural Mystic Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 was this conference today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 was this conference today? Yes, Carbo is now speaking. Audio to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natural Mystic Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Cool, listening to it now. Smart guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 And geeze, what do you know....it wasn't the kid from Yale being linked to Mobsters And you don't seem to be too well educated by the way you extrapolated what I said, into your blurb above. I never said an Ivy leaguer hasnn't made mistakes. What I said was that it was less likely that it was Higgins, than other persons. And yes i firmly believe that Hggins was far more mature at 21 or 22 than the others at the same age. And thus more likely too steer away from trouble. But maybe thats too complicated for you. . APPOLOGIZE NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 This is just terrible. I wish Rejean Tremblay would buzz off. I know others are reporting but he's going to be the guy who runs with this I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenadian Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Time for Gainey to put a "gag order" out and tell his players................no one talks to the press for any reason period! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 This is just terrible. I wish Rejean Tremblay would buzz off. I know others are reporting but he's going to be the guy who runs with this I bet. Nothing is terrible - yet. So far the only thing we know is that the Kosty's knew this guy and he provided services for them. None of our guys has been arrested and charges have not been filed. That indicates that our players were not involved in any of the guy's illegal activities. For all we know, the guy got them rides when they were too drunk to drive, set up parties, and got them good vodka from back back home. After all the rumors of police waiting at the airport, were Andrei or Hamrlik even taken in for questioning last night? I haven't heard anything about anyone missing practice. If they were up all night answering questions, they wouldn't have been at practice this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 haha, on the TSN website they have an attempted interview with Sergei, and his lawyer is standing to the side constantly saying that he won't comment on the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 They had to have been buying female escorts(hookers) and at least weed..............and probably coke. Hopefully the cops can't prove it. Man, how many times have we seen Andrei looking stoned on the bench. Too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Oh know guys, watch out, I got your next cover story: Matt D'Agostini is caught jaywalking! or better yet Chris Higgins downloads movies and sells them to his teammates!!! SOMEONE START HANDCUFFING THESE GUYS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) They had to have been buying female escorts(hookers) and at least weed..............and probably coke. Hopefully the cops can't prove it. Man, how many times have we seen Andrei looking stoned on the bench. Too many. And you know this for fact or you are just assuming? I'd be carefull throwing stuff like that around without anything but opinions on the subject. As for Andrei looking stoned....what can I say the guy is just ugly and he has always looked like that. Edited February 20, 2009 by Habitforming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 And you know this for fact or you are just assuming? I'd be carefull throwing stuff like that around without anything but opinions on the subject. As for Andrei looking stone....what can I say the guy is just ugly and he has always looked like that. Well, that takes care of the hooker part . hahahaha.... Careful for what? The Montreal media has done enough. I don't think any little thought I may fart out on Habsworld.net is really going to put a dent in anything I need to worry about. So if this guy "Magnolia" King Pin crime ring leader Mafioso has Big and Little's credit card numbers, I can safely assume it's not for a back rub or a dozen roses. My point is, for the sake of the Montreal Canadiens and us fans Hopefully Magnolia's records don't show what they spent it on. We need them right now. Otherwise I don't give a crap what happens to them, they probably deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Oh know guys, watch out, I got your next cover story: Matt D'Agostini is caught jaywalking! or better yet Chris Higgins downloads movies and sells them to his teammates!!! SOMEONE START HANDCUFFING THESE GUYS! Sells them? What a cheapo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 (edited) Oh know guys, watch out, I got your next cover story: Matt D'Agostini is caught jaywalking! or better yet Chris Higgins downloads movies and sells them to his teammates!!! SOMEONE START HANDCUFFING THESE GUYS! and don't forget they have a criminal history stealing purses and what not. Also guilty of impersonating hockey players of late. and bob in his interview did say there was a player that did not put his bus token in the box. Federal crimes commission needs to be appointed right now. Edited February 20, 2009 by habs rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Carbonneau déçu De son côté, l'entraîneur Guy Carbonneau était tout aussi préoccupé que son directeur général. "C'est inquiétant et décevant", a mentionné Carbonneau. "On veut mieux encadrer nos joueurs. Le monde est fait comme cela. C'est à nous de réagir." L'entraîneur a mentionné que l'organisation a appris de cette situation et qu'elle s'ajustera afin de mieux protéger ses joueurs. "C'est comme des enfants, parfois tu leur donnes de la corde jusqu'à ce qu'ils se pendent. Maintenant, je peux dire que la corde sera serrée. Pas mal à part de cela." Carbonneau a aussi admis que les joueurs se doivent d'être très prudents aujourd'hui, surtout avec l'arrivée des nouveaux médias. "Dans notre temps, s'il y avait eu autant de médias, les cellulaires et l'internet, nous aurions aussi été dans le trouble." I think it's a good reaction by Carbo. He says: there's a problem, we'll fix it. Didnt went into denial or pointed fingers. He said they're like children, sometimes you give so much rope they hang themselves, but from now on the rope will be short (on a tight leach), and a whole lot shorter. Then he puts things in perspective: if there was as many medias, cell phones and the internet back in my days, we'd also have been in trouble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Time for Gainey to put a "gag order" out and tell his players................no one talks to the press for any reason period! Goes against NHL rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikz Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I think it's a good reaction by Carbo. He says: there's a problem, we'll fix it. Didnt went into denial or pointed fingers. He said they're like children, sometimes you give so much rope they hang themselves, but from now on the rope will be short (on a tight leach), and a whole lot shorter. Then he puts things in perspective: if there was as many medias, cell phones and the internet back in my days, we'd also have been in trouble... He has a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 He has a point Yeah... but the difference is that in Carbo's era they had good reasons to party. They were warriors. They've been through the Good Friday Massacre. They've won a Cup, they've had epic, bloody battles against the Nords, Bruins, Flyers. They were the best defensive team in the league year after year, they had playoffs success. What are the current Habs' claim to glory? 1st place in Eastern Conference? Woop-dee-doo. But hey, the fans arent that much better. Burning cop cars after a 2nd round win? Man, the past few years really lowered everybody's expectations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikz Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yeah... but the difference is that in Carbo's era they had good reasons to party. They were warriors. They've been through the Good Friday Massacre. They've won a Cup, they've had epic, bloody battles against the Nords, Bruins, Flyers. They were the best defensive team in the league year after year, they had playoffs success. What are the current Habs' claim to glory? 1st place in Eastern Conference? Woop-dee-doo. But hey, the fans arent that much better. Burning cop cars after a 2nd round win? Man, the past few years really lowered everybody's expectations... You have a point too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yeah... but the difference is that in Carbo's era they had good reasons to party. They were warriors. They've been through the Good Friday Massacre. They've won a Cup, they've had epic, bloody battles against the Nords, Bruins, Flyers. They were the best defensive team in the league year after year, they had playoffs success. This is exactly right. What we have here are players that have been bathing in all the goodies and adulation and self-indulgences that become available to you because you are a Montreal Canadien. And what is utterly disgusting is that they not only have done nothing - nothing - to deserve it, they are by their behaviour sh*tting in the faces of the organization that gave them this opportunity. They want, feel entitled to, the night life and adulation of Guy Lafleur. But they don't want to work like he did, play like he did, or win like he did? F*ck them. I understand the argument that they're kids, they're learning, boys will be boys, etc.. Nonetheless, they may never play again on a team that had as much talent and potential as this one. That's what's so frustrating: you only get so many chances. They might 'mature' next year or the year after, have a really strong team - only to get derailed by injuries or bad luck. They might 'mature' and end up playing for a middle-of-the-road team their whole lives (c.f. Koivu). It's a waste of a golden opportunity, and why? Because they're too busy being punks. While I'm ranting, I also don't know how these clowns can even look Bob Gainey (Bob Gainey!!) in the eye. One of the great champions and living examples of dignity and class in the history of the sport. A man who has lost his wife and daughter and does everything they could have asked of him to provide them with the opportunity to be winners. This is how they repay him, and the fans. Punks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I remember reading an article about Ovechkin lately (Maxim I think) the reporter was following him around for a day. By the end of the article, they're in Ovie's car driving somewhere. And Ovie gets impatient because of traffic going too slow. So Ovie says something like "Here in America, there's too many rules. In Russia you want to do something, you do it" Wither or not the quote is accurate, the spirit isnt entirely false. I'm getting the sense that it's the mentality some of those guys from Russia are bringing over here. The Kostys for one, Perezhogin, Radulov & Valentenko jumping ship, Malkin, etc. You might say it's just the Russians, but you know the story about rotten apples spoiling the lot. Sometimes all it takes is a couple of guys not marching in tune for the rest of the band to get pissed and demoralized. Add to that some kids with apparently little self-discipline who all think they can have the lifestyle of Lafleur and Iafrate (Price, Higgins) and you've got a general tendency toward self-indulgence. Can't wait for Carbo & Co to shorten the leach. I except some of those guys won't be too happy to have Kirk Muller yelling at them to butt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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