Jeff Price (no relation) Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Sounds good, but I think Markov would rather eat glass than feed the crazy media mobs after every game any more than he has to. Can you blame him? So, I would guess Plekanec gets it and then to Subban in couple years. Yeah, Pleks has always struck me as very talkative with the media. He's such an outspoken and vocal member of the team... Actually, I'm not sure i've ever heard him speak, at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Lafleur and Dryden were my favorite players growing up, but no way Lafleur could have been captian - even if there was room. He didn't have the personality of a leader. On the ice he was great, off the ice, he was not capttain material. WIth Robinson, there were just too many players ahead of him. When he was allowed to leave (or booted by Savard), was when he should have been captain. Word was that Robinson wanted to be captain if he resigned and Savard wouldn't do that. Savard lost his freakin mind when he purged the habs defence (Robinson, Green, Ludwig) and than traded Chelios. Had Robinson been retained, he could have been a steadying influcence and the Carbo-Chelios rift may never have occured. Keep in mind that Robinson was a Norris nominee on the Kings and was largely credtied for the development of Blake and Zitnik. In the current situation, other then Subban, the only other young players that MAY be captain material are Galleghar and MaxPac. I think maxpac is too hard on himself at times to be captain, and Gallaghar seems to be hated by the refs, so not sure if that would be a good idea. YOu hit nail on head 'personality of a captain' and Subban hasnt shown examples of that ever. Do you see you tube videos of Toews, Crosby, Brown, or any top captain working out in summer? LIke PK had last year, not a chance. Not that narcasistic for lack of a better word. Was Subban a captain at any level of hockey? Like Tinordi or many of Habs were in junior? No. That is my only beef with Subban, will he take a hit to make play, no! he will do all he can (even coughing up puck) to avoid getting smoked as all d-men do when retrieving puck once dumped in. But he is a superstar, very outgoing personality and loves media, so he will do fine in couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Pleks is next captain.. experienced cool under pressure... and I think he speaks english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see DD with a letter on his jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 i just think markov is out of the equation.. he doesn't want it.... he'll keep his A Max with the C markov A Subban A The shift from the gorges/ gio era has allowed MB to hand this team over to the next generation in leadership. Its only natural that 2 letters will go to the new "younger" core and one will be the veteran presence. this i believe will leave plex as the odd man out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I still don't want to f*ck up Max Pacioretty by depositing the 10,000-lb. gorilla of the Habs captaincy on his shoulders. He needs to be free to keep working on his game, improving his consistency and learning how to come up reliably big in the crunch. But I have no problem at all with giving him an "A" if he has leadership qualities (although to be honest, it hasn't been often that the words "Pacioretty" and "leader" come up, so this "C" idea seems like still more wishful thinking, kinda like the idea that Eller is awesome). Speaking of Eller, MT got the best results from him when he told Eller to emulate Plekanec. That speaks to the power of Pleks's example on the team, that he is a guy coaches can point to as exemplifying what you need to do to be successful. Giving him the "C" will in no way impeded the ability of Patches et al. to become leaders if they want to, any more than Gionta prevented Pleks from becoming one. Capable and committed young players typically grow into that role, and when the time is right they may themselves get the "C." Don't rush it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 With guys like Pacioretty, Plekanec and Subban, I would find it odd to see them rarely wear an A on their sweater and go into wearing the C the next season. That said, remember the hat trick game against Ottawa? Pacioretty had an A on his sweater that game. DD I don't believe has worn a letter ever for the Habs, only the Bulldogs. Plek has worn the A more than those guys but he still isn't a consistent letter wearer like Markov. Then again we did let our captain and perennial assistant (Gorges) go. Plekanec also has that Czech experience captaining guys like Jagr. Might go a long way. Honestly if Markov doesn't want it? Might as well go with three A's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 No no we need an identity, we need a captain right away. The more I think about it the more I believe max is in fact the guy. If you look at the situation more so you'll see max and gio are actually very very similar hockey players so to speak.... just one is younger bigger faster and stronger. But voice off the ice, good ol' American boy and all..... Plex has no letters right now and has been looked over in the past on a bunch of occasions it doesn't seem to bother him. Subban and marky can feel as equals and help dictate the play of our team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29habs3318 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Andre Markov would be a great first choice to wear the "C". If he says no to it then Brendan should take it. He plays with heart and soul each and every night. He battles it out in front of the net and never backs down. That is leadership, when things are down, he never gives up!!! He can change the flow of a game on his own. The guy is unselfish and a team player on top of it all. What else do you want for an on-ice leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 CC has a great point about saddling Patch with a C, worrisome indeed. Bergevin would not answer the question of who will decide next captain, players or management, that tells me management probably will, dunno. As Don mentioned, I wouldn't be shocked to see DD get appointed captain, home town boy(French journalists need), leads by example, plays on first line, may be around a while, worked his ass off to make the AHL, let alone bigs, and really shows signs of being a true leader.... ya never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 CC has a great point about saddling Patch with a C, worrisome indeed. As Don mentioned, I wouldn't be shocked to see DD get appointed captain, home town boy(French journalists need), leads by example, plays on first line, may be around a while, worked his ass off to make the AHL, let alone bigs, and really shows signs of being a true leader.... ya never know. Exactly. 200% Agree. Markov is the obvious choice. With Plek being the best alternative and DD the PC choice. Plek may also be too hard on himself for the 10,000lb gorilla. It may weigh 20,000lbs on Plek's shoulders. Budaj for Captain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Doubt poor Budaj will b a Hab come Oct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Personally I think.. the leadership and character that Budaj brings overshadows the difference Tokarski will make in games allocated to the back-up. With Gorges & Gionta gone.. I think Budaj is a must. I think this is a situation where MB will make a decision where character and leadership is a priority over skill. No slight to Tokarski intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Signing Joey MacDonald makes Bergevin's plan clear, it's easy because Tokarski won't be in the A because he would never clear waivers, so who knows what will happen? I kinda think that MT going with Tokarski in the playoffs means Budaj is done in MTL, because really, if you can't count on your backup(or believe in him as coach), then you have to give the backup job to Tokarski in light of last year's playoffs, and the few games he played in regular season, one a shut out.... without Price the chances of winning anything are slim, but as we have seen last year, injuries happen at the worst of times, and you need the best skilled guy there, character, shmaracter, Tokarski has tons! If Budaj has any value in the league, well, trade him, otherwise, waiver him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Personally I think.. the leadership and character that Budaj brings overshadows the difference Tokarski will make in games allocated to the back-up. With Gorges & Gionta gone.. I think Budaj is a must. I think this is a situation where MB will make a decision where character and leadership is a priority over skill. No slight to Tokarski intended. That's a joke, I'm sorry. You make the decision by who's going to win you games. Budaj was history the moment Tokarski got the call, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 That's a joke, I'm sorry. You make the decision by who's going to win you games. Budaj was history the moment Tokarski got the call, IMO This is what I was trying to say, :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 That's a joke, I'm sorry. You make the decision by who's going to win you games. Budaj was history the moment Tokarski got the call, IMO Well then the arguments that Gorges & Gio have any more valuable than Gilbert & Malhotra are moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This is what I was trying to say, :rofl: Yeah, I literally saw your post right after I sent mine.Well then the arguments that Gorges & Gio have any more valuable than Gilbert & Malhotra are moot. Nevertheless, two vets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yeah, I literally saw your post right after I sent mine. None the less, two vets lol ok then. If your value is in vets wouldn't Budaj have the same contentions over Tokarski.. furthermore considering Gilbert and Malhotra are vets themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 lol ok then. If your value is in vets wouldn't Budaj have the same contentions over Tokarski.. furthermore considering Gilbert and Malhotra are vets themselves... The vet has to contribute on the ice too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The vet has to contribute on the ice too. And a guy that is in the locker room and on the bench 80% of the season? Better to have a rookie after shipping out so much coveted veteran leadership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 When will team leadership be unveiled, after training camp or end of pre-season? Subban must be almost a lock for the 'C' eh? Markov aint interested at all and doubt DD/Eller/Pacioretty would be named. Plekanec seems to be only other realistic option? Because he is a career Hab, very low maintenance (other than diving foolishness, but hey.. if you aint cheating your not trying hard enough!) and works hard at both ends of ice. But, would he want to deal with Montreal media every game? Not likely so by elimination, very media friendly Subban may get it by default and that will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I will be really suprised if PK is Captain, don't think it is a good role for him now. Markov will captain till he retires then PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I wouldn't mind waiting Markov's contract duration and then swtich to a youngster. (Subban, Galchenyuk or Pacioretty) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 you can't force the captaincy on someone. markov didn't want it when he was healthy..and now, while the captain is addressing the media after each icetime, markov will be having a 45 minute icebath. plekanics is a solid choice, but everyone has him being shipped out at the deadline. so it may come down to subban by default. i'm ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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