habscout Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 This has been discussed previously, but I thought I'd post it anyways. It props up the reason for the Kings moving of Mattias Norstrom, to make some salary room for Souray in the off season. http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/post/So...-?urn=nhl,25742 http://www.palmbeachpost.com/panthers/cont...extra_0304.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Seen it before nothing new brought up really all 30 teams in the NHL will try to sign Souray if he is still available July 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HABBER-oooooKNOWS Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Seen it before nothing new brought up really all 30 teams in the NHL will try to sign Souray if he is still available July 1st. This will be a test of loyalty. With all this media bullshit, losing streak etc... going on he just may leave, and I wouldn't blame him. I don't want him to go. I'm sure Gainey will try and resign him. Two weeks ago I said he would stay but with all this crap going on with the media causing shit He just may leave. BUMMER..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David B Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) Sheldon will likely end up in California IMO. Without a UFA signing that would leave the Habs with: Markov Komisarek Dandenault Boullion Gorges ???? Pretty stellar lineup. *edit forgot Streit but he's mostly a winger now isn't he? Edited March 7, 2007 by David B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Right. And all the 'Souray sucks!' people around here will no doubt be happy as he scores his requisite 20 goals and gives LA a deadly PP. I said all along we should have dealt him for a C, and I sure hope a crazy bidding war doesn't prove me right... :puke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 B)--> QUOTE(David B @ Mar 6 2007, 09:35 PM) 194696[/snapback] *edit forgot Streit but he's mostly a winger now isn't he? Streit will be a full time defenseman next season I hope. In his 4 game stint with Souray they created a lot of offense and were not posting - ratings in the +/- stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Maybe they'll finally trade Perez for a Dman... the more they wait, the less we have chances to get a good dman in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justintb Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I think everyone keeps on forgetting Emelin over in Russia.... We need him badly if Souray goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habscout Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) I haven't forgotten Emelin. I would love to see him come over to Montreal, but there are a few obstacles in his path. First, the Habs have been waiting for a transfer agreement to be signed between Russia and the NHL, to set the standards for what NHL teams will pay Russian clubs for their players. Without it, players like Malkin are forced to "defect" their teams and flee the country. Next, Emelin plays on a Russian squad where his dad is the coach, and he's getting good ice time. His pay is very good, between $500K-$1M. The financial incentive to leave Russia is low, since it's very likely he will start in the AHL until he can show he's ready to start in the NHL and/or a position opens up for him in the bigs. NHL teams are not willing to promise any prospect a starting spot in the NHL, regardless of the demands of that player, which is pretty common with Russian prospects lately. GM's will remember the disasterous start in Ottawa this season of Alexei Kaigorodov, someone who left the team rather than accept a demotion to the AHL, despite his terrible play for Ottawa. However, there is O'Byrne, a rookie defenceman in Hamilton, who's play has been improving as the season has progressed. He may surprise some by earning a spot on the club next fall, likely in the #7 spot. I think everyone keeps on forgetting Emelin over in Russia.... We need him badly if Souray goes! Edited March 7, 2007 by habscout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneHABSfan Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Must sign Markov and Komisarek. The team must not get into losing defenceman as it is very costly to replace them. Look at how Chicago got burned with Acoin (Spelling?) I would love to see Sheldon back as well, however there are teams out there I am sure are going to offer $6million as they have need of that power play big shot from the blue line. I will not believe Sheldon is going to LA unless they sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Souray is gone, and david B, i hope you were being sarcastic about having a great D next year with the players yuo have listed. Or you haven't seen a good teams defense play. This D is awfull. Can't skate, don't hit, (komi excluded), can't pass. Don't do anything 5 on 5 accept give up goals. Those stats are not good. Why would they be better next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkned Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Why would they be better next year? Because Markov, Komi and Streit are improving... But Dandy won't improve much at his age. If Bouillon gets back on track, we'll have 2 hitty d-men. But that'll still be an average D in overall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_nl Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 If the Kings moved "Notan" so make room for Souray why couldn't a plain trade been made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 B)--> QUOTE(David B @ Mar 6 2007, 09:35 PM) 194696[/snapback] Sheldon will likely end up in California IMO. Without a UFA signing that would leave the Habs with: Markov Komisarek Dandenault Boullion Gorges ???? Pretty stellar lineup. *edit forgot Streit but he's mostly a winger now isn't he? As of this second, he's playing D but I found he did better as a forward. Who knows, maybe O'Byrne or Emelin will surprise us next year. I'm quite sure that if Souray leaves, Bob will bring in another good UFA defenceman to take his place, because the 6 guys above are a very weak unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Don't forget Konstantin Korneev in Russia. He is having an excellant season and has been playing on the National Team. He is the same age as O'Byrne, but has much more high level experience, and an NHL level skill set. I would think he would be a more likely candidate to crack the lineup at this point than either Emelin or O'Byrne. Korneev could play the PP opposite Markov as well. He would be better than Streit I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortHanded Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe they'll finally trade Perez for a Dman... the more they wait, the less we have chances to get a good dman in return. I hope they trade someone other than Perez. We don't have enough scoring depth on the team, and this guy, if he's EVER unleashed and given a real chance to play, could be a great offensive forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I'd be willing to give up Souray if we can add scoring up front. The problem with letting Souray leave is we would not be loosing a good blueliner, we would be loosing a good scorer... as horrible as that sounds its the reality. So take his 6+ mil; which I think he's worth and give it to a true #1 center, a blue chip player that we can build around. GO HABS GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortHanded Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I'd be willing to give up Souray if we can add scoring up front. The problem with letting Souray leave is we would not be loosing a good blueliner, we would be loosing a good scorer... as horrible as that sounds its the reality. So take his 6+ mil; which I think he's worth and give it to a true #1 center, a blue chip player that we can build around. GO HABS GO! you're right on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 you're right on there. What about playing Souray with Kovalev and Samsonov All he would need is to win faceoffs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habscout Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I hope they trade someone other than Perez. We don't have enough scoring depth on the team, and this guy, if he's EVER unleashed and given a real chance to play, could be a great offensive forward. While I like Perezhogin [his Perogi nickname is one of the better ones I've heard lately on the Habs], I was extremely disappointed with his last shootout performance. Up until then, I don't believe I've ever seen an NHL player shoot *wide* of the net on a shootout. For now, he fits in very well on the 3rd line, especially when he uses his speed on the forecheck against the opposition. Earlier in the season when he played that way, he often caused some turnovers in the opposition's or the neutral zone, and sometimes they turned into decent scoring chances for the Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 que sera, sera... whatever will be, will be with regards to souray and any personel changes next year... bottom line, for us, it won't affect our income, our health, our personal relationships, our whatever unless, of course, we let all of this affect these things. a person with a healthy perspective wouldn't let it do that... GO :hlogo: GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Souray could very well end up in LA, but I don't see the Kings dealing Norstrom as any special indication of that. They are well out of the playoff race and Norstrom was one of the few players on the rostor that fit the late season rental mold. They also dealt Sean Avery awhile back. Jack Johnson has to be signed this summer, I believe, and presuming he makes the team for next season, he is going to cost a pretty penny as well. Rookie max plus all sorts of bonuses probably to the tune of about $3 - 4 million next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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