Meller93 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Well MB said it! That sly cat was a bull$4!ter in the spring, and nabbed Galchenyuk for a cheaper deal. But this actually has some pretty big repercussions. If he stays, we have DD plex and Eller all fighting for the top 3 lines with him. Who moves where? And who else is happy Bergevin made a point to announce this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Yes, I saw that! and I am jumping for joy Reading this board and listening to what transpire from interviews with MT and MB, it seems to me that Bounival/Carr/DelaRose have a crack at running for that left-wing spot with Deharnais falling to the Eller line. I just don't see Deharnais on a second line with Pleks unless Semin and Gallagher swap spots. Pacioretty-Galcheynuk-Semin Bournival-Plekanec-Gallagher Desharnais-Eller-Kassian Weise-Mitchell-Smith-Pelly (Flynn) Cant' wait for October to roll in. Go Habs Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bournival isn't a top 6 winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Well MB said it! That sly cat was a bull$4!ter in the spring, and nabbed Galchenyuk for a cheaper deal. But this actually has some pretty big repercussions. If he stays, we have DD plex and Eller all fighting for the top 3 lines with him. Who moves where? And who else is happy Bergevin made a point to announce this? DD told multiple reporters he is ready to play wing and knew the day would come that Galchenyuk would be "top three". He's a definite team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 DD told multiple reporters he is ready to play wing and knew the day would come that Galchenyuk would be "top three". He's a definite team player. Glad to hear that, makes me like DD more, and I already liked him (just not as the #1 centre)This also gives us a read on Bergevin, and the read is that he will say things to the press that aren't necessarily true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Glad to hear that, makes me like DD more, and I already liked him (just not as the #1 centre) This also gives us a read on Bergevin, and the read is that he will say things to the press that aren't necessarily true. Word is that Galchenyuk was told at June exit interviews he needs to train to play centre by Therrien and Bergevin. It was all bluff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bournival isn't a top 6 winger. I know, but neither is DLR or Carr... and moving Eller up creates a hole in the third line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I know, but neither is DLR or Carr... and moving Eller up creates a hole in the third line. Why not move Desharnais up from the 3rd line LW where you have and put one of those wingers on the 3rd (or 4th line)? Bournival is barely a top six option in the AHL let alone the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why not move Desharnais up from the 3rd line LW where you have and put one of those wingers on the 3rd (or 4th line)? Bournival is barely a top six option in the AHL let alone the NHL. dlbalr, because a line of DD-Pleks-Gally would be going back to the smurf days; and Pleky plays "bigger" when paired with robust linemates. I am just hoping that the hole on the second line left wing can be plugged by a prospect that catches fire... or through a trade. As much as I respect DD, I think he would be better besides Eller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 dlbalr, because a line of DD-Pleks-Gally would be going back to the smurf days; and Pleky plays "bigger" when paired with robust linemates. I am just hoping that the hole on the second line left wing can be plugged by a prospect that catches fire... or through a trade. As much as I respect DD, I think he would be better besides Eller That's fair, although I'd still rather a small line with those three than Bournival (who isn't the biggest either). I wouldn't be shocked to see something like this: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Desharnais - Galchenyuk - Semin Just because they've decided to play Galchenyuk at C doesn't mean they're going to make him the #1 right away...or at all really. Pacioretty and Plekanec play well together and having a second C alongside Galchenyuk could come in handy at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 What I want to see: Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher Semin - Plekanec - Kassian Desharnais - Eller - Smith-Pelly De La Rose - Mitchell - Weise What I expect to see: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Semin - Galchenyuk - Weise Desharnais - Eller - Kassian De La Rose - Mitchell - Smith-Pelly Semin on the RW: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Desharnais - Galchenyuk - Semin Smith-Pelly - Eller - Kassian De La Rose - Mitchell - Weise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Semin on the RW: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Desharnais - Galchenyuk - Semin Smith-Pelly - Eller - Kassian De La Rose - Mitchell - Weise MoLG, you are right, I remmeber reading that Semin shoots right but plays left wing. But MT has consistently refused to put players on their "off wing" even if they played there before, even if they had success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why would you 'want' to see Galchenyuk thrust into #1 centre role? Sink or swim is the way to go is it? And if he happened to start as a #2 centre, on a short lease that would be to conservative or something? If he has trained hard maybe he can handle the position this year and not get frickin creamed/concussed almost every game at centre, as he did last year till Bergevin likely pulled the plug on that failed experiment. But to match him against the 29 other top centres in the league is askin a bit much...isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 What I want to see: Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher Semin - Plekanec - Kassian Desharnais - Eller - Smith-Pelly De La Rose - Mitchell - Weise What I expect to see: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Semin - Galchenyuk - Weise Desharnais - Eller - Kassian De La Rose - Mitchell - Smith-Pelly Semin on the RW: Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gallagher Desharnais - Galchenyuk - Semin Smith-Pelly - Eller - Kassian De La Rose - Mitchell - Weise I'm a fan of the third suggestion you have, although what you want is good too. But do you actually expect Weise to get second line chances before Kassian? That would surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why would you 'want' to see Galchenyuk thrust into #1 centre role? Sink or swim is the way to go is it? And if he happened to start as a #2 centre, on a short lease that would be to conservative or something? If he has trained hard maybe he can handle the position this year and not get frickin creamed/concussed almost every game at centre, as he did last year till Bergevin likely pulled the plug on that failed experiment. But to match him against the 29 other top centres in the league is askin a bit much...isn't it? I think putting him with Pacioretty and Gallagher ensures his scoring will be there but if the pressure is too high, you just flip him and Plekanec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Why would you 'want' to see Galchenyuk thrust into #1 centre role? Sink or swim is the way to go is it? And if he happened to start as a #2 centre, on a short lease that would be to conservative or something? If he has trained hard maybe he can handle the position this year and not get frickin creamed/concussed almost every game at centre, as he did last year till Bergevin likely pulled the plug on that failed experiment. But to match him against the 29 other top centres in the league is askin a bit much...isn't it? People WANT to see Galchenyuk at C because they (or 'we') correctly believe that Desharnais is simply not effective enough in the playoffs in his current role. Just because we want it, however - and this is where your post comes in - doesn't mean Galchenyuk can deliver on it, or that it's the best thing for his development or the team. That's the qualifier that fans generally overlook. (Instead, we blame Therrien). Still, we would be crazy not to give Galchenyuk a nice long look at C, provided he wants to play C and isn't getting his teeth handed to him on a nightly basis. He is, after all, our only young player with potentially impressive offensive upside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Fin87 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Patches-Chucky-DD Semin-Plek-Gally Kassian-Eller-DSP Mithcell-Weiss-Flynn Maybe JDLR/Hudon/Carr/Bournival force there way in somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Here is what I can tell you about the line up, you are all correct cause at any given time what ever line you have Le Genius will use. The magical blender will be going full speed. I fully expect that Semin at some point will be on the 4th line and wiese on the 1st. probably with Kassian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Here is what I can tell you about the line up, you are all correct cause at any given time what ever line you have Le Genius will use. The magical blender will be going full speed. I fully expect that Semin at some point will be on the 4th line and wiese on the 1st. probably with Kassian. Precisely. The 'magical blender' that is a standard accoutrement of modern coaching will indeed be hard at work, as it is on most teams; and this is why I've never really understood the point of posting imaginary line combinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Precisely. The 'magical blender' that is a standard accoutrement of modern coaching will indeed be hard at work, as it is on most teams; and this is why I've never really understood the point of posting imaginary line combinations. At this point, line combos can often represent a depth chart of sorts. Everyone knows the blender/hat/wheel/coin flip will be used to construct the lines at some point or another but it can still be a useful exercise to see who could plug where and figure out where the interchangeable parts are. And, of course, when the coaches pick a different set of lines, it makes it easier to complain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 At this point, line combos can often represent a depth chart of sorts. Everyone knows the blender/hat/wheel/coin flip will be used to construct the lines at some point or another but it can still be a useful exercise to see who could plug where and figure out where the interchangeable parts are. And, of course, when the coaches pick a different set of lines, it makes it easier to complain... You've got me there! The 'depth chart' function is indispensable, I'll admit. But of course that means the lines being posted are just a heuristic device to help us sort out our positional depth. Very useful, but only for that purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 dont be surprised if one of sherbak mcCarron or Carr force a trade..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 dont be surprised if one of sherbak mcCarron or Carr force a trade..... Galchenyuk will be the one to force a trade; if he ends up sticking at centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Price (no relation) Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The only reason to put DD on the wing is if he's playing on the top two lines, because he's a better center, both defensively and offensively, than Eller. Either DD plays wing on 1st or 2nd line, or he ends up with more points than any other third line center in the league. He's good for 45-50 points a year no matter what line you put him on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Pacioretty Plekanec Gallagher Semin Galchenyuk Scherbak De la Rose Eller Kassian Desharnais Mitchell Weise Bournival Flynn Smith-Pelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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