xXx..CK..xXx Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chris said: That was a quality playoff effort against a bottom feeder Check New Jersey's home record versus road record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Check there record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm just saying it's clear that New Jersey is a bottom feeder due to their road games. At home they're just as good as a playoff caliber team. This was still a game we should have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, dlbalr said: Petry has played more than him for three straight games. I don't think that's a coincidence. He had probably their best chance of the period shorthanded. I thought he was alright. I suspect he's valued a whole lot higher in the organization than you think; I don't think they have any interest at all in moving him anytime soon. Lehkonen does all the little things right. Hes strong defensively. His forecheck is really good. He PKs well. He gets in good positions. He wins board battles. Kid just can't finish chances. But coaches will always love him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Don't let the result cloud the judgment of how the team played 1st period was even and the Devils got the tip in goal 2nd period Habs dominated and the Devils got a goal 3rd period Habs dominated and could only get one goal Don't blame effort for the loss, cause that's not what happened. Schneider stole one and he's been getting his game together lately 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 As I mentioned earlier, the Hab have always stunk in Jersey. It's a dead arena with a sunbelt vibe, despite their geography and past dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Commandant said: Lehkonen does all the little things right. Hes strong defensively. His forecheck is really good. He PKs well. He gets in good positions. He wins board battles. Kid just can't finish chances. But coaches will always love him That read like a description of Nate Thompson. If Lehkonen doesn't produce while playing with talented players, the he is no more than a really good 4th line checker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Pecca had a solid first period, then basically gets benched last night and Lekhonen gets moved back up with Arnia and Kotkaniemi. That line so clearly needs a shake up. Kotkaniemi needs some shifts away from those two. There's way too many puck battles along the boards with Armia. It's not Kotkaniemi's game. Pecca has looked hungry out there. He needs to get a few minutes up the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Looked like the 17-18 version of Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: That read like a description of Nate Thompson. If Lehkonen doesn't produce while playing with talented players, the he is no more than a really good 4th line checker He's a lot better than Nate Thompson who has skating issues, and doesn't do the same forechecking work, nor does he have the same passing skills, and offensive instincts to be in the right spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Habopotamus said: Pecca had a solid first period, then basically gets benched last night and Lekhonen gets moved back up with Arnia and Kotkaniemi. That line so clearly needs a shake up. Kotkaniemi needs some shifts away from those two. There's way too many puck battles along the boards with Armia. It's not Kotkaniemi's game. Pecca has looked hungry out there. He needs to get a few minutes up the line up. Byron spent the game with Kotkaniemi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Commandant said: Byron spent the game with Kotkaniemi. Lehkonen moved up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: Lehkonen moved up They played 3 shifts together total in the game. 3 shifts. I'd bet they were all after a penalty kill or power play when lines get mixed for a shift or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: They played 3 shifts together total in the game. 3 shifts. I'd bet they were all after a penalty kill or power play when lines get mixed for a shift or two. How about the other 60 games? Lehkonen finished the game on that line. They always seem to want to keep that finish line together. It doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 23 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: How about the other 60 games? Lehkonen finished the game on that line. They always seem to want to keep that finish line together. It doesn't work. We were talking about last night. Lehkonen moves up the lineup when there have been injuries. Now that Armia, Byron and Shaw are all healthy at the same time, he's on the fourth line. Again though, I think the coaches like him because they see more there than his stats. He's top 4 on the team in High Danger scoring chances. It really doesn't make sense that he doesn't score more goals. He seems like a guy with no confidence in his shot and he's putting a lot in the goalies pads or chest right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: We were talking about last night. Lehkonen moves up the lineup when there have been injuries. Now that Armia, Byron and Shaw are all healthy at the same time, he's on the fourth line. Again though, I think the coaches like him because they see more there than his stats. He's top 4 on the team in High Danger scoring chances. It really doesn't make sense that he doesn't score more goals. He seems like a guy with no confidence in his shot and he's putting a lot in the goalies pads or chest right now. I just dont see it man. I dont want to argue, this is just my opinion. I don't know where this kid fell off from his rookie year. When he first came up, I couldn't believe how heavy his wrister was. I honestly thought Lehkonen was perfect candidate for player swap. a guy like Burakovsky or even Nic Petan and a pick would have looked alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Nic Petan? with his 0 goals and 2 assists this season With his 5 goals in 103 career games. OK You want to swap Lehkonen for a guy who can't play defence at all and has 5 goals in 103 career games? Burakovsky is overpaid for the production he's giving and as a result he'll be a UFA on July 1st when he's not qualified at his current pay. That doesn't seem like a good move either. He also can't play in his own end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Petan's average ice time was 7min in Winnepeg this year. He had 52pts in 52 games in the AHL this season. He has 18 assists in his last 108 games. Lehkonen is averaging over 15min of ice time, has 26 assists in his last 129 games and 19 goals in his last 129. With 0 in his last 20+ Petan with a pick would not have been that bad of trade, from an offensive stand point. Burakovsky has basically the same numbers as Lehkonen the last two seasons, averaging less ice (11min), while also having 38pts and 35pts in his first two seasons. He's been a + player every year, except for this season too. I mean the trades aren't that hard to fathom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: Petan's average ice time was 7min in Winnepeg this year. He had 52pts in 52 games in the AHL this season. He has 18 assists in his last 108 games. Lehkonen is averaging over 15min of ice time, has 26 assists in his last 129 games and 19 goals in his last 129. With 0 in his last 20+ Petan with a pick would not have been that bad of trade, from an offensive stand point. Burakovsky has basically the same numbers as Lehkonen the last two seasons, averaging less ice (11min), while also having 38pts and 35pts in his first two seasons. He's been a + player every year, except for this season too. I mean the trades aren't that hard to fathom. Watch more hockey. No gm trades Lehkonen straight up for petan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: Watch more hockey. No gm trades Lehkonen straight up for petan. Watch more hockey? Ok bud First of all, i said Petan and a pick for Lehkonen. That would not have been the end of the world, but I do agree, it's not the smartest trade proposal ever. My posts was more about Burakovsky. Which I dont think is a bad trade off at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: 19 goals in his last 129. With 0 in his last 20+ Another Finn just scored his 1st in 15games, name of Laine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Habopotamus said: Watch more hockey? Ok bud First of all, i said Petan and a pick for Lehkonen. That would not have been the end of the world, but I do agree, it's not the smartest trade proposal ever. My posts was more about Burakovsky. Which I dont think is a bad trade off at all. I could have said that nicer. Just feeling cheeky. I would not trade Lehkonen yet. Not that low anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Habopotamus said: Petan's average ice time was 7min in Winnepeg this year. He had 52pts in 52 games in the AHL this season. He has 18 assists in his last 108 games. Lehkonen is averaging over 15min of ice time, has 26 assists in his last 129 games and 19 goals in his last 129. With 0 in his last 20+ Petan with a pick would not have been that bad of trade, from an offensive stand point. Burakovsky has basically the same numbers as Lehkonen the last two seasons, averaging less ice (11min), while also having 38pts and 35pts in his first two seasons. He's been a + player every year, except for this season too. I mean the trades aren't that hard to fathom. 3 Scherbak was a ppg player in the AHL last season. Big deal. 18 assists in 108 games also isn't great. Lehkonen has 7 goals and 17 assists THIS SEASON in 63 games... all while providing far better defensive play than Petan could even dream of. 19 goals is also a little better than 5....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BCHabnut said: I could have said that nicer. Just feeling cheeky. I would not trade Lehkonen yet. Not that low anyway. Nah, it's all good. I get where you guys are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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