dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Not Gudbranson, Gustafsson from Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Curious to see what they gave up for him..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 2022 7th to Philly is the return, Flyers also retain 50% of his $3M price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7th round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, dlbalr said: 2022 7th to Philly is the return, Flyers also retain 50% of his $3M price tag. Thanks Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 D depth is great Maybe a partner for Weber until Chairot gets back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 No downside at all to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 My quick write-up on the move: https://www.habsworld.net/2021/04/habs-acquire-erik-gustafsson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: D depth is great Maybe a partner for Weber until Chairot gets back? Depth never hurts ... especially at that cost ... but other than being new, do Merrill or Gustafsson really have the chops to help Weber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Depth never hurts ... especially at that cost ... but other than being new, do Merrill or Gustafsson really have the chops to help Weber? Was thinking of offensive help. Gustafson had 60 points not long ago. puck moving D man with offensive upside that can’t play defence...sounds like a Weber fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Was thinking of offensive help. Gustafson had 60 points not long ago. puck moving D man with offensive upside that can’t play defence...sounds like a Weber fit It does, but this interpretation fails to explain why Gustafson has never again come close to those totals, or why Philly was willing to let him go basically for free. Safer to position him as a depth signing who may turn out to have a nice upside. Certainly the Habs’ complete lack of puck-moving LD suggests that he will get a few games being tried out in a top-4 role... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Was thinking of offensive help. Gustafson had 60 points not long ago. puck moving D man with offensive upside that can’t play defence...sounds like a Weber fit One season that was about half his offensive production (59% of goals, 43% of assists) in about one-third of his career ... inspires no confidence in me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Hmm, never heard of him before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 41 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: D depth is great Maybe a partner for Weber until Chairot gets back? My thinking also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: My thinking also A healthy scratch in Philly is a good 1st pairing on Habs? Is Philly's d-core that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: My thinking also I don't think he cracks Montreal's top six right now unless they're really frustrated with Kulak (who I think is the 7th D now when they are fully healthy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Now official. The 7th rounder is St. Louis' which was previously acquired; the Habs still have their own that year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, DON said: A healthy scratch in Philly is a good 1st pairing on Habs? Is Philly's d-core that good? an NHLer that can play lots of minutes and shots a lot and can hold hte 4th D spot on the 2nd pair with Weber until Chiarot comes back Edmundson-Petry will play 1st pair minutes Merryl will pickup the PK minutes from Guftasson So, yeah. 😶 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 This doesn't move the needle at all for Montreal. It's disappointing but based on the other trades done today seems pretty par for the course for what was available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, Trizzak said: This doesn't move the needle at all for Montreal. It's disappointing but based on the other trades done today seems pretty par for the course for what was available. It puts one more layer between having to watch Leskinen look like a deer in the headlights with the puck on his stick. That's something. In all seriousness, it's cheap depth and at least brings a different dimension to the table. Nothing to get excited about but they at least have eight NHL defencemen when everyone's healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: an NHLer that can play lots of minutes and shots a lot and can hold hte 4th D spot on the 2nd pair with Weber until Chiarot comes back Edmundson-Petry will play 1st pair minutes Merryl will pickup the PK minutes from Guftasson So, yeah. 😶 He was playing Romanov level (3rd pairing) minutes on defence for the team with the second worst GAA in the NHL ... some of that may be related to goaltending but not entirely ... not a CV for top 4 minutes on a team hoping to maintain a playoff spot ... IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, Trizzak said: This doesn't move the needle at all for Montreal. It's disappointing but based on the other trades done today seems pretty par for the course for what was available. MB kept his prospects and high draft picks. Added depth that will need to clear COVID protocol before playing and be available to play a bit before Chiarot is ready to play. It does not move the needle in the short term, but it seems the gamble is to have: Edmudson-Petry Chiarot-Weber Merryl-Romanov Gustaffson (that may come fill-in for an injuredtop-4 LD if needed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Trizzak said: This doesn't move the needle at all for Montreal. It's disappointing but based on the other trades done today seems pretty par for the course for what was available. Yeah - there is a difference between "moving the needle" and making a good, risk-free, minor hockey move. MB's deadline moves have been good. But they don't move the needle. MB has failed to add a top-4 puck-moving LD. The hope now is that plugging the hole in the bottom-pairing LD position will help to solidify the back end just enough to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, GHT120 said: He was playing Romanov level (3rd pairing) minutes on defence for the team with the second worst GAA in the NHL ... some of that may be related to goaltending but not entirely ... not a CV for top 4 minutes on a team hoping to maintain a playoff spot ... IMO he tend to shoot a lot and has better success than Mete had He is an established NHLer, than can play lots of minutes but needs to play with a good RD Not a top-4 fot a fill-in for Chiarot until the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Yeah - there is a difference between "moving the needle" and making a good, risk-free, minor hockey move. MB's deadline moves have been good. But they don't move the needle. MB has failed to add a top-4 puck-moving LD. The hope now is that plugging the hole in the bottom-pairing LD position will help to solidify the back end just enough to make a difference. Failed to get top-4 LD: agree we will probably hear him say later today that the asking price was too high or that no top-4 LD was available. Either way, I prefer he didn't sell the farm for a top-4 LD it is not like we are BOS/TBL/WSH betting the farm for a legit shot at the cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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