MAK Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 The pens will not end up with first pick anyways. they still have a shot at the lottery drafts in may or june Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Right now the Pens are in 30th. And last I checked St Louis was something like 3-4 points ahead with a game or two in hand. It looks like they'll get the 1st overall pick. It would be great to get Kessel and have the best line in NHL history but you don't want to end up like Atlanta who has an explosive offence, a great goalie but zero defence - and Atlanta probably won't make the playoffs. Johnson would be my pick. He can play with Orpik and Whitney and then the Pens will be set for a dynasty. Then again, Crosby and Malkin are both playmakers. A finisher like Kessel would seal the deal. The problem is that Malkin and Crosby are both centers so one will have to move. But guys remember that will guys like Crosby and Malkin, Pittsburgh will be a popular UFA stop for some stars. This team is in great position. The only thing that can ruin this is their financial problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) More Habs In Turin made history in Torino today. Mark Streit & former habs Paul DiPietro cruised to a 2-0 win over Canada IMO. Did I say "cruised"? Yes I did. Canada didn't really gain the slot. Their point shots were irrelevant. Point passing was irresponsible. They lost the one on one battles. Backdoor and trick plays were intercepted by the Swiss. The Swiss pokechecked Canada in both zones. Forty shots sounds like alot but most of them were not dangerous and Gerber saw them. As for the waived goals? The way Canada played, it's not an excuse. Paul DiPietro scores 2. Streit played a strong game. 3 Stars Gerber 0/40 shots. DiPietro 2 Goals Rick Nash - the best of the...Canada played awful. Edited February 18, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diebels Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 WOW WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable, first the Czech now Canada. fantastic and fantastic for Streit. he is an awesome guy, great character, he deserves that A LOT. now I hope he can transfer that to the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaness_habs Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Streit is leading his team to victory !! He plays so well during this games and I hope it will help him to get more confidence with habs. He really shows that he's a great player and thats so coo cuz hes a habs !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 We dont need Streit to be a world-beater, but adequate defense and some power-play production would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) What game did you guys watch? This injustice was not won by the Swiss, not to take away from their great effort, but by officials. Terrible calls all game. Looked like a Habs game. Yes Canada played under their ability but come on, both those goals were in . 2-2 tie, where is overtime? Bogus but if you want to revel in it, enjoy. Edited February 18, 2006 by johnnyhasbeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 What game did you guys watch? This injustice was not won by the Swiss, not to take away from their great effort, but by officials. Terrible calls all game. Looked like a Habs game. Yes Canada played under their ability but come on, both those goals were in . 2-2 tie, where is overtime? Bogus but if you want to revel in it, enjoy. The one goal should have counted - the puck was over the line in Gerber's glove. I presume by "both those goals" you mean the puck that went into the net clearly after the whistle. There was no way that was a goal. The whistle went first. The Canadian clearly had a foot in the crease. I think Switzerland deserved the win. There were a number of bad penalty calls but they went both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diebels Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 What game did you guys watch? This injustice was not won by the Swiss, not to take away from their great effort, but by officials. Terrible calls all game. Looked like a Habs game. Yes Canada played under their ability but come on, both those goals were in . 2-2 tie, where is overtime? Bogus but if you want to revel in it, enjoy. oh common. there were some questionable calls against Switzerland as well. They just said on CBC that the video ref only had 3 angles to work with which is unbelievable.. but gerber makes a huge save and you never see the puck in the net. the puck probably had crossed the line but canada shouldn't need such a goal to beat a team full of players who are too 'soft' for the NHL. An upset is always a great thing for a tournament. and it's great to see that team work payes off. I hope the habs watched this game and see that a small but fast skating team can beat big strong teams if they work hard together. GO SWISS, GO HABS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) oh common. there were some questionable calls against Switzerland as well. They just said on CBC that the video ref only had 3 angles to work with which is unbelievable.. but gerber makes a huge save and you never see the puck in the net. the puck probably had crossed the line but canada shouldn't need such a goal to beat a team full of players who are too 'soft' for the NHL. An upset is always a great thing for a tournament. and it's great to see that team work payes off. I hope the habs watched this game and see that a small but fast skating team can beat big strong teams if they work hard together. GO SWISS, GO HABS IMO - The puck must cross the goal line. The puck, the WHOLE puck and nothing but the puck. If the puck was nestled at the end of Gerber's trapper, it's still possible that it was not "entirely over" the line. If that's the case then it falls to "inconclusive" which means NO GOAL. If Canada wanted a goal beyond this question they shouldn't have played a garbage game like that. And they should have gotten the goals. Canada wasn't ripped off. They just played terrible. By the way. I didn't say it in this forum yet but why the Czech's didn't take Pleks is beyond me. Everyone talks of experience internationally. That's funny because of all the games I've watched this Olympics I've noticed a trend...that is, it's hockey. Last time I czeched Pleks plays hockey and he's darned good at it! Edited February 18, 2006 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Saku Koivu The guy is playing awesome hockey right now. I don't know if it's Jokinen and selanne but man is he on fire. Every part of his game is going. I hope he brings it back to Canada with him. Go Saks Go :hlogo: Selanne and Koivu again with another goal. Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummerman Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Koivu Streit Kovalev all captains of their country and Montreal has no leadership sheesh Edited February 18, 2006 by Strummerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The one goal should have counted - the puck was over the line in Gerber's glove. I presume by "both those goals" you mean the puck that went into the net clearly after the whistle. There was no way that was a goal. The whistle went first. The Canadian clearly had a foot in the crease. I think Switzerland deserved the win. There were a number of bad penalty calls but they went both ways. The Nash shot was no goal, it was a good call. If the ref decided on the ice that it was a goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it was a goal. If the ref decided on the ice that it was no goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it wasn't goal. The ref never decided that it was a goal on the ice and you also never saw it 100% that the puck crossed the line. So the refs didn't make a mistake here. Hopp Schwitz ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 The Nash shot was no goal, it was a good call. If the ref decided on the ice that it was a goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it was a goal. If the ref decided on the ice that it was no goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it wasn't goal. The ref never decided that it was a goal on the ice and you also never saw it 100% that the puck crossed the line. So the refs didn't make a mistake here. Hopp Schwitz ... Koivu And Selanne KICKING ARSE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 The Nash shot was no goal, it was a good call. If the ref decided on the ice that it was a goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it was a goal. If the ref decided on the ice that it was no goal, the video review has to show it 100% that it wasn't goal. The ref never decided that it was a goal on the ice and you also never saw it 100% that the puck crossed the line. So the refs didn't make a mistake here. Hopp Schwitz ... Well I have to disagree. I think the video evidence was clear and that the puck was 100% over the line. The shot showing Gerber's glove mostly in the net with only the empty front portion outside the net made it clear the puck was in his glove and over the line. Also the blownup shot seemed to show the puck in the webbing of his glove and over the line. The problem was that the video replay official didn't have access to the very good replays shown on the CBC. I don't think the ref is to blame at all. He only got to see the play live once. The replay official got it wrong but probaby only because he didn't have the good replays that showed it was a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Right now the Pens are in 30th. And last I checked St Louis was something like 3-4 points ahead with a game or two in hand. It looks like they'll get the 1st overall pick. It would be great to get Kessel and have the best line in NHL history but you don't want to end up like Atlanta who has an explosive offence, a great goalie but zero defence - and Atlanta probably won't make the playoffs. Johnson would be my pick. He can play with Orpik and Whitney and then the Pens will be set for a dynasty. Then again, Crosby and Malkin are both playmakers. A finisher like Kessel would seal the deal. The problem is that Malkin and Crosby are both centers so one will have to move. But guys remember that will guys like Crosby and Malkin, Pittsburgh will be a popular UFA stop for some stars. This team is in great position. The only thing that can ruin this is their financial problems. Did they change the draft system in the new CBA? I thought the bottom 5 teams lotteried for their draft position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Well I have to disagree. I think the video evidence was clear and that the puck was 100% over the line. The shot showing Gerber's glove mostly in the net with only the empty front portion outside the net made it clear the puck was in his glove and over the line. Also the blownup shot seemed to show the puck in the webbing of his glove and over the line. The problem was that the video replay official didn't have access to the very good replays shown on the CBC. I don't think the ref is to blame at all. He only got to see the play live once. The replay official got it wrong but probaby only because he didn't have the good replays that showed it was a goal. Regardless, Canada shouldn't have needed to rely on that single goal to win the game. Where was the rest of the offence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Regardless, Canada shouldn't have needed to rely on that single goal to win the game. Where was the rest of the offence? Yes I agree. As I said previously, the Swiss deserved the win. Even if that goal had been counted the Swiss had 2 goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu30 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 (edited) Saku Koivu update: 1 goal 6 assists in 4 games Edited February 19, 2006 by mathieu30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Saku Koivu update: 1 goal 6 assists in 4 games Insane-o! I wonder if Bob is calling Burke and Keenan right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Beautiful assist by Koivu on that Selanne goal today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Koivu is playing insane hockey right now. I pray it lasts the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummerman Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Dont worry Koivu will injure his knee in the gold medal game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Dont worry Koivu will injure his knee in the gold medal game salt. over shoulder. now. turn around. spit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brboo Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Dont worry Koivu will injure his knee in the gold medal game Thats not cool man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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