alexstream Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Update on Nathan Horton's rumour He has asked for a trade, so the rumours about him weren't that foolish... I first thought that they were just crazy-fans wishes... but... 2 lines in there reports that he has really asked for a trade: http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/223234.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Update on Nathan Horton's rumour He has asked for a trade, so the rumours about him weren't that foolish... I first thought that they were just crazy-fans wishes... but... 2 lines in there reports that he has really asked for a trade: http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/223234.html ahhh my dreams are coming true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZedHead Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So, according to tsn ice chips, Kovalev isn't in the line-up tonight with an upper-body injury...any chance there is a deal in the works for kovy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 So, according to tsn ice chips, Kovalev isn't in the line-up tonight with an upper-body injury...any chance there is a deal in the works for kovy..... That was my first thought. If it is possible (unlikely though) the returning player must be a relative big name. kovy has a high price tag and the salaries would likely match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The habs should explore a kovolev move. SJ needs someone with playoff (successful) experience. How about Kovolev, Souray and a prospect for Marleau and one of SJ's defensive prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Kovalev is such a threat on the ice I know he has not been what everyone wanted so far this year but I would hate for the Canadiens to not have him anymore, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Kovalev is such a threat on the ice I know he has not been what everyone wanted so far this year but I would hate for the Canadiens to not have him anymore, Yes, he only has 13 goals but he's still one of our most valuable players. Trading him wouldn't be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSharpMarble Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The habs should explore a kovolev move. SJ needs someone with playoff (successful) experience. How about Kovolev, Souray and a prospect for Marleau and one of SJ's defensive prospects. Marleau is worth more than all three of those alone, and Kovalev is injured and playing like shyt. We'd need to toss in Higgins or Markov or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Well, Souray has good value...the key of course is that the salaries don't match out anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Marleau is worth more than all three of those alone, and Kovalev is injured and playing like shyt. We'd need to toss in Higgins or Markov or something. Higgins, Souray, Kovalev, prospect for Marleau? That's paying way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Higgins, Souray, Kovalev, prospect for Marleau? That's paying way too much. i agree, especially throwing in higgins... yuck! GO :hlogo: GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Marleau is worth more than all three of those alone, and Kovalev is injured and playing like shyt. We'd need to toss in Higgins or Markov or something. With a proposal like that I'd consider changing your Forum name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Marleau is worth more than all three of those alone, and Kovalev is injured and playing like shyt. We'd need to toss in Higgins or Markov or something. markov either... sheeeeshhhhhhhhhhh......... GO :hlogo: GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushfire Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Team 990 reported tonight in the post-game show that Montreal and Chicago are very close to a deal that would see Aucoin coming here for Sammy and Rivet... Personally I dont like this trade at all. I would like to see Smolinski thrown in the mix though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_25th Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Love the trade. 2 UFAs. Rivet who is slow-footed and Souray who is going to ask too much to stay for Aucoin that has a year left on his contract at 4 mil. Do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smon Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Uh, he said Samsonov not Souray. Souray and Rivet for Aucoin would be laughably ######ed for the Canadiens.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSharpMarble Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 With a proposal like that I'd consider changing your Forum name. What exactly are we giving them? - Kovalev: Injured, old, terrible work ethic, might net you 50 pts a season, will retire within a couple years. - Higgins: Playing terrible of late, probably be a 20 goal scorer at best, IF he regains his hot streak he might be good enough for 1st line. - Souray: Here is the gold, having a great season but is a terrible defenseman, will expect a huge salary increase next year. But he has alot of grit, one of the only few players on the habs with backbone. - Prospect would probably be conditional that souray signed, as we are getting pretty close to Marleaus value, and maybe a lower level one. What we get - Marleau: Franchise player, instant 1st line center and 100+ pts a season player. Leader, game breaker captain. This is the kind of player we havnt had in about 15 years. Look we are dealing from a point of weakness, them strength. They are looking at a cup run, we are looking at a summer job. We wont get a franchise player by dealing the likes of rivet and samsonov. Kovalev is for their playoff run, higgins is for their future and souray is to help the PP. We get everything we need in Marleau, we get size, leadership, game breaking skills, ability to gain the offensive zone and our 80+ pps player. You guys need to think before you suggest trades, you don't get other teams gold for trash. Anyways I think we should consider Roberts and Bertuzzi, If we could get a respectable deal for bertuzzi I think he could help us alot. His injurys are the risk but that would also lower his trade value, and Roberts is exactly what this team needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) What exactly are we giving them? - Kovalev: Injured, old, terrible work ethic, might net you 50 pts a season, will retire within a couple years. - Higgins: Playing terrible of late, probably be a 20 goal scorer at best, IF he regains his hot streak he might be good enough for 1st line. - Souray: Here is the gold, having a great season but is a terrible defenseman, will expect a huge salary increase next year. But he has alot of grit, one of the only few players on the habs with backbone. - Prospect would probably be conditional that souray signed, as we are getting pretty close to Marleaus value, and maybe a lower level one. What we get - Marleau: Franchise player, instant 1st line center and 100+ pts a season player. Leader, game breaker captain. This is the kind of player we havent had in about 15 years. Look we are dealing from a point of weakness, them strength. They are looking at a cup run, we are looking at a summer job. We wont get a franchise player by dealing the likes of rivet and samsonov. Kovalev is for their playoff run, higgins is for their future and souray is to help the PP. We get everything we need in Marleau, we get size, leadership, game breaking skills, ability to gain the offensive zone and our 80+ pps player. You guys need to think before you suggest trades, you don't get other teams gold for trash. Anyways I think we should consider Roberts and Bertuzzi, If we could get a respectable deal for bertuzzi I think he could help us alot. His injurys are the risk but that would also lower his trade value, and Roberts is exactly what this team needs. I'd be VERY hesitant to include Higgens, only bcoz, i think he has a higher upside then 20 goals/season, is someone who will become a leader and likes Montreal. Marleau is giong to be a UFA in another year. I would do Kovolev-Ryder-souray in a second. And i think SJ may consider this deal also, bcoz, need a big D-men who brings offence and leadership and they would have a VERY good chance of re-signing Souray (since he probably wants to sign in California), they need a clutch playoff guy like kovolev - Thornton has never been able to produce in the clutch, and Ryder gives them anothr scorer - a streak scorere, but nevetheless a guy who should be able to get 25-35 goals a year. Edited February 14, 2007 by hab29RETIRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Higgins is the closest thing we have right now to a franchise two way player... if you can remember as far as the beginning of the season, his name was mentionned in the same sentence as Selke... and BG was saying that he was better than Lehtinen at the same age... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Higgins is the closest thing we have right now to a franchise two way player... if you can remember as far as the beginning of the season, his name was mentionned in the same sentence as Selke... and BG was saying that he was better than Lehtinen at the same age... Totally agree on Higgens. Even now, the effort is there (unlike others like Ryder). It's just a lack of confidence right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSharpMarble Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Higgins is the closest thing we have right now to a franchise two way player... if you can remember as far as the beginning of the season, his name was mentionned in the same sentence as Selke... and BG was saying that he was better than Lehtinen at the same age... That could be very true and very sad at the same time, it would be a risk for SJ to take him. And I am sure there would be several conditional picks going either way to further even this out but thats the meat and potatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) Nothing states we can't be buyers and sellers at the same time... if Souray and Kovalev for example NOT That I want to are traded before the deadline and we pick up Forsberg or Sakic from another trade Edited February 14, 2007 by CoRvInA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Nothing states we can't be buyers and sellers at the same time... if Souray and Kovalev for example NOT That I want to are traded before the deadline and we pick up Forsberg or Sakic from another trade Sakic, oh c'mon, you don't really think he's availabe do you? Not a chance in hell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitforming Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 What exactly are we giving them? - Kovalev: Injured, old, terrible work ethic, might net you 50 pts a season, will retire within a couple years. - Higgins: Playing terrible of late, probably be a 20 goal scorer at best, IF he regains his hot streak he might be good enough for 1st line. - Souray: Here is the gold, having a great season but is a terrible defenseman, will expect a huge salary increase next year. But he has alot of grit, one of the only few players on the habs with backbone. - Prospect would probably be conditional that souray signed, as we are getting pretty close to Marleaus value, and maybe a lower level one. What we get - Marleau: Franchise player, instant 1st line center and 100+ pts a season player. Leader, game breaker captain. This is the kind of player we havnt had in about 15 years. Look we are dealing from a point of weakness, them strength. They are looking at a cup run, we are looking at a summer job. We wont get a franchise player by dealing the likes of rivet and samsonov. Kovalev is for their playoff run, higgins is for their future and souray is to help the PP. We get everything we need in Marleau, we get size, leadership, game breaking skills, ability to gain the offensive zone and our 80+ pps player. You guys need to think before you suggest trades, you don't get other teams gold for trash. Anyways I think we should consider Roberts and Bertuzzi, If we could get a respectable deal for bertuzzi I think he could help us alot. His injurys are the risk but that would also lower his trade value, and Roberts is exactly what this team needs. Your post conveniently downplays our players and glorifies Marleau. Don't get me wrong Marleau is a franchise type player but when has he scored 100 points? no junior doesn't count. Even 80 points is a stretch since he has only done it once to this point (Kovalev has done it once too) I think this deal would be done in a heatbeat for Kovalev and Souray alone (possible conditional pick on Souray re-signing) San Jose puts a premium on PP specialist D-men right now, and they feel is the last piece that puts them over the top. they are currently looking around the league for one but who has a true PP guy available? (no Brewer or Stuart are not PP guys) That's why Sourays value is so high right now because none are available. The top 3 players by position that might be available are Biron in Buff, Forsberg in Philly and Souray in Mtl. If Gainey does trade him it will be for a player of Marleau's calibre or a first rounder and a top prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV-G Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Here is one I hope is true, although there's not much strength behind it, just a rumour. It's a three way deal between Philly, San Jose and Montreal. San Jose gets Sourey and Forsberg; Philly gets two first round picks, one from Montreal and San Jose, and a Montreal goalie; and Montreal gets Marleau. The problem would probably be with San Jose, in that they're getting two players who would defintely help them, but they're both UFA's. From Montreal's view, I would take Marleau for a 1st round pick, Sourey and a goalie. Marleau would be the type of plaer we have needed for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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