sakiqc Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ryder gets #73 back, Gallagher switches to #11. I believe he wore that number while while the Vancouver Giants in junior. Correct ! http://www.vancouvergiants.com/roster/show/id/808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ryder gets #73 back, Gallagher switches to #11. I believe he wore that number while while the Vancouver Giants in junior. So what number does Gallagher take when we trade for Koivu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 So what number does Gallagher take when we trade for Koivu? This may be a joke, but I expect IF we make a play for one of the 2 big Anaheim guys at the deadline (which is very very very low possibility) MB would try to take Koivu as well. He seems to be a heart-an-soul guy, bringing back 2 ex-habs that loved it when they were here. Who better than Saku? While I wouldn't expect much out of Saku, I think he would fit nicely on our 2nd/3rd line. Perry + Koivu for DD + Weber + Gionta + Leblanc + 2nd round Bourque - Pleks - Perry Patches - Koivu - Ryder Chucky - Eller - Gally Moen - White - Prust Never gonna happen, but gotta admit, it looks nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 So what number does Gallagher take when we trade for Koivu? Good question. His WJC number is retired and the inverse of it is in use while his Hamilton number is in use and one of the other prospects (Leblanc) has the inverse of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Would people have preferred Simon Gagne? Apparently he was another choice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Would people have preferred Simon Gagne? Apparently he was another choice... Definitely not! That would be entirely a language trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Would people have preferred Simon Gagne? Apparently he was another choice... He couldn't best Dwight King for a spot on the Kings roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I like Cole, but don't sell Ryder short. Ryder is a closer which should give our power play some options. What is impressive is the options MB will have next year. One of those options would be to reup Ryder if he makes good. There is also a third round pick coming our way, which of Dallas's three thirds the pick is,I don't know. It's their own 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Back from Boston Bruins' section on HFBoards. Members over there are not happy about us getting Ryder. Lot of them wanted him back. They generally think that the Habs made a very good deal unloading Cole's contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Back from Boston Bruins' section on HFBoards. Members over there are not happy about us getting Ryder. Lot of them wanted him back. They generally think that the Habs made a very good deal unloading Cole's contract. Basically the lot convinced themselves that Ryder was gonna be a Bruin at the deadline. For some reason they saw Cole as zero value which is just dumb Bruin logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Hard to argue with this deal...players of similar value statistically, except Ryder is 2 years younger, cheaper and comes off the cap at year end. Plus they get a third round pick. Makes you wonder if Cole would have netted a first round pick... Habs are a mirage this year...I'd have preferred the 1st rounder if it was possible. Either way a great organizational trade IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Maybe MB turns around and deals Ryder before the deadline to get another pick or two. Doubtful but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Part 1 of our Writers Weigh In column on the trade: http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=3020 (Part 2 will be up sometime this weekend, I'm not sure when yet...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This trade makes sense for all kinds of financial reasons, but it's hard to argue that we are a better team with Ryder rather than Cole. Is there any reason unloading Cole's contract couldn't have waited until the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This trade makes sense for all kinds of financial reasons, but it's hard to argue that we are a better team with Ryder rather than Cole. Is there any reason unloading Cole's contract couldn't have waited until the summer? Yes... They had a buyer. If Cole continued to suck, he would not be tradable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 This trade makes sense for all kinds of financial reasons, but it's hard to argue that we are a better team with Ryder rather than Cole. Is there any reason unloading Cole's contract couldn't have waited until the summer? Had they waited until the summer, they probably would have had to take money back beyond this season. If the motives for the trade were primarily financial as many have speculated, waiting would have failed to accomplish that objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Had they waited until the summer, they probably would have had to take money back beyond this season. If the motives for the trade were primarily financial as many have speculated, waiting would have failed to accomplish that objective. And yet, was it worth it to take a part out of our team while we were leading the conference? I know he wasn't producing that well, but even then, he does much more than Ryder does. His hustle, size and checking ability seemed to be exactly the kind of thing Therrien's system is all about. Ryder seems like a bad choice for this team, considering he doesn't really do anything when he isn't scoring. It has shown throughout 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 And yet, was it worth it to take a part out of our team while we were leading the conference? I know he wasn't producing that well, but even then, he does much more than Ryder does. His hustle, size and checking ability seemed to be exactly the kind of thing Therrien's system is all about. Ryder seems like a bad choice for this team, considering he doesn't really do anything when he isn't scoring. It has shown throughout 2 games. It all comes down to what the primary motive for the trade was. I think it was more financial than anything, regardless of what's being said publicly. If that's the case, then the impact on the current roster was secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 And yet, was it worth it to take a part out of our team while we were leading the conference? I know he wasn't producing that well, but even then, he does much more than Ryder does. His hustle, size and checking ability seemed to be exactly the kind of thing Therrien's system is all about. Ryder seems like a bad choice for this team, considering he doesn't really do anything when he isn't scoring. It has shown throughout 2 games. I think ya gotta give the guy more than 2 games to settle in. Lets face people wanted to fire mt before the season began, those gripes seem to have disapated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Ryder will have ahold week against the south east! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Does Ryder sign in Montreal next year? I guess it depends on what happens before the trade deadline and if there's more youth on the way up from Hamilton (Bournival, Leblanc). My gut tells me no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Does Ryder sign in Montreal next year? I guess it depends on what happens before the trade deadline and if there's more youth on the way up from Hamilton (Bournival, Leblanc). My gut tells me no. Likely not. He's going to make good money on his last UFA contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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