KoZed Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 In the light of the PP struggling and O'Byrne getting benched, La Presse has a litle article about "the missing piece to the puzzle" of the Habs: a right-side partner for Hamrlik who could also be the shooting point on the PP. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hockey/20...e-du-puzzle.php Funny to see Beauchemin's name in there. Gainey lost him for nothing. The other names thrown around are Boucher (too old and injury prone IMO), Ohlund (not enough offensive upside IMO), Bouwmeester (going to cost a too muh, and I think he's too shy to perform in Montreal). Other names mentionned are Barker, Leopold and Morris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) If the Habs do have one weakness it's at the 4th d-man position. I don't this weakness is very glaring, but getting a guy who can shoot the puck on net might help the PP. Edited November 4, 2008 by Habsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Boumeester would be great, he can skate like the wind and even though he is a left shot he does play RD. You may be able to get him for Lats or higgins, Chipchura, Subban and O'Byrne or some combination like that depending on if he resigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Boumeester would be great, he can skate like the wind and even though he is a left shot he does play RD. You may be able to get him for Lats or higgins, Chipchura, Subban and O'Byrne or some combination like that depending on if he resigns. First off, the price paid (2-3 good assets) would be too high for what would be just a 2nd pairing guy. Second, Bouwmeester is chronically shy. I mean, worse than Markov was earlier in his career. I think he would die of anxiety in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Sean ODonnell could be a good fit: -he's cheap at 1. something M -He's won the cup before( twice I think) -he brings size -he bring alot of experience - he's a stay at home, a very effective one too -I don't think he would cost much -He,s from Ottawa so he knows whats going on in MTL. however: He's a lefty who would play on the right no offense what so ever aging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Weber is an option way before the trading market. I like his shot a lot. At least see where he stands at after 20 games in the AHL. After 40-50 games if there is no solution from within then a trade is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Second, Bouwmeester is chronically shy. I mean, worse than Markov was earlier in his career. I think he would die of anxiety in Montreal. I agree. Also Boumeester will cost at least 5 million$ per year, if not 6 million! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFT77 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Weber is an option way before the trading market. I like his shot a lot. At least see where he stands at after 20 games in the AHL. After 40-50 games if there is no solution from within then a trade is possible. I haven't seen enough of Weber to know what he would bring to the table, but if OB continues to struggle, he might be a viable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Forget Weber. At this stage of his pro career, he plays exactly like Brisebois. No thanks, he needs more work in the AHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 He couldn't be worse than OB is right now, and he has a cannon. It would bring our PP up, but he could never be called a 4th d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowpeb Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Perhaps a forward could emerge as the shooter from the grassy knoll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelu88 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Well, the very first thing thing we can try before and callup's/trades would be to bring Dandenaut back on D. Considering that we have 5 4th liners that we cycle, we can afford to test dandy for a few games. Who knows? it might end up working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Perhaps a forward could emerge as the shooter from the grassy knoll. Who has a good, hard, accurate left shot and can also pass the puck well? A Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Hamrlik. Still wouldnt solve the problem of having someone more reliable to pair with Hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Who has a good, hard, accurate left shot and can also pass the puck well? A Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Hamrlik. Plekanec might have a good wrist shot, but i wouldn't say that his slapshot is hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Plekanec might have a good wrist shot, but i wouldn't say that his slapshot is hard! How would you know, Plex never takes slapshots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Believe me, Weber is that bad. The irony in all this is that O'Byrne has an underrated shot. It's not Sheldon Souray shot but it not that half ass in terms of options. Regardless, this problem is going to be fixed from within. It's been a while now that Carbo loves to throw in Bouillon at the PP. His 2 goals already could make a case there but expect him to get more PP time if the current system doesn't improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Not sure if this would be a solution to this particular problem but I would have really liked if Bob had picked up Bergeron when he was available. I have always liked what Ive seen of Bergeron and he seems to have a decent enough shot from the point. Plus the price would have been right. He has been traded twice now for 3rd rnd picks and doesnt even make 2 mil per yr. Bergeron is 28 now and is just starting to reach his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Regardless, this problem is going to be fixed from within. It's been a while now that Carbo loves to throw in Bouillon at the PP. His 2 goals already could make a case there but expect him to get more PP time if the current system doesn't improve. Bouillon has never been a good point man at any level. His shot is relatively weak. Brisebois will be an option lot more than Bouillon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 I have always liked what Ive seen of Bergeron and he seems to have a decent enough shot from the point. Plus the price would have been right. He has been traded twice now for 3rd rnd picks and doesnt even make 2 mil per yr. Bergeron is 28 now and is just starting to reach his prime. I like Bergeron as well, but he'd be just like Streit was: PP specialist that can't really be trusted defensively. The latter is the reason why he changed teams so often. I think if Bob has to make a move, he should aim higher. Morris I always liked. In recent years he went the Hamrlik way and focused more and more on sound defensive game to the expense of offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobRock Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Who has a good, hard, accurate left shot and can also pass the puck well? A Kostitsyn, Plekanec, Hamrlik. Still wouldnt solve the problem of having someone more reliable to pair with Hammer. Didn't Sergei play the point on the powerplay occasionally last season. The other thing that's happened is that Guy is going from a two-man point system to one man, at least he does with Markov. Tanguay usually moves to the bottom of the circles when Kovalev has the puck on the other side, where he moves in behind the box of the cross-ice pass. Ironically, it's the same thing Markov used to do last season. What about Gorges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 An easy to get rental could be that Frikkin never dying Aucoin. It's also easy to pick in CGY's courtyard lately anyways. (Tangs, Hamr) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 What about Gorges? 0 offensive upside. I'm just guessing we'll see Breezer more than we thought we'd do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Ya, the shipped had sailed with Bergeron. I only mentioned him in a past tense. If Bob had picked him up over the last 2-3 years we probably wouldnt be having this conversation today but then again Bob probably might not have signed Hamer or traded for Tanguay if Habs had picked up Bergeron. Bob wont be trading for him anytime soon and I dont think Mini would get rid of him at this point anyway. I agree he is more of a PP specialist but he isnt a huge defensive liability IMHO. I think its more of his small size that several of his NHL coachs didnt like. NYI were a much better team after they picked him up and realistically the Ducks didnt really need him but Im pretty sure Mini likes him. Either way Bergeron will be a UFA at the end of this year so maybe Bob can coax him into signing for 1.5-2 mil to replace Dandy or possibly Cube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Boumeester would be dumb imo. Giving up to much, and just not the right guy. I'd look at other options in the future, right now its a feeling out process and we have no need at all to panick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 In the light of the PP struggling and O'Byrne getting benched, La Presse has a litle article about "the missing piece to the puzzle" of the Habs: a right-side partner for Hamrlik who could also be the shooting point on the PP. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hockey/20...e-du-puzzle.php Funny to see Beauchemin's name in there. Gainey lost him for nothing. The other names thrown around are Boucher (too old and injury prone IMO), Ohlund (not enough offensive upside IMO), Bouwmeester (going to cost a too muh, and I think he's too shy to perform in Montreal). Other names mentionned are Barker, Leopold and Morris. Bouwmeester is going to hit the UFA market with no intention of going back to Florida. I don't see him going for too much. I also think you underrate Ohlund who is maybe a top pairing defenceman. He's very similar to Hamrlik but probably a bit more offense and less defense. Getting either of them, Leopold, Morris or anyone else in that vicinity would put us over the top. I also disagree with Gorges having zero offensive upside. He jumps into the rush as often as Hamrlik and Bouillon do and he has decent skills. What he doesn't do is put up points or get his shots on goal (but really, Hamrlik's our only defenseman who doesn't aim his point shots on opposing ankles). With a little PP time, I could see him fitting into that role - but we might be better off with Sergei, Tanguay, Bouillon and Brisebois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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