Helmethead Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 According to Mathias Brunet, rumors have surfaced that he has indeed been bought out. https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=mathiasbrunet Very surprised if this is true, with the possible amnesty period or the advantages of burying him in the minors.. Am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 There is a process that needs to be gone through before you can buy a guy out. We haven't heard that he's been placed on waivers yet (the first step in the process). So I'll wait for that announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmethead Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 There is a process that needs to be gone through before you can buy a guy out. We haven't heard that he's been placed on waivers yet (the first step in the process). So I'll wait for that announcement. Thanks Commandant! You can always be relied on for critical procedural information. Really hope we don't take a cap hit with Gomez though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 If they do this huge mistake unless there is an amnesty period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Knowing there's likely to be a rollback of some sort in salary, any team wanting to buyout any player will want to wait until after the new CBA to save some money/cap space. The waiver period for this started over a week ago, there's a reason no player has hit those waivers yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 The method by which Bergevin has already put his stamp on this team, one has to think that Gomez (and hopefully Kaberle's) days are numbered: 1 - Near complete clean of head office save Timmins 2 - Near complete clean of coaching staff 3 - Declaring that the Habs will see action on July 1 I have to say that the new stamp is incomplete without a Gomez buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Kaberle will get a chance to be puck moving depth for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nothing wrong with having a 40 assist, 45 point dman on your third pair. Just stick Emelin beside him to lay out the hits. Allen - Subban Markov - Gorges Do the heavy lifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nothing wrong with having a 40 assist, 45 point dman on your third pair. Just stick Emelin beside him to lay out the hits. Allen - Subban Markov - Gorges Do the heavy lifting. That would be great. So Weber and Diaz 7 8? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 That would be great. So Weber and Diaz 7 8? I'd go Diaz and St. Denis and try to move Weber. I wonder if some team would give us a goalie prospect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I wonder if some team would give us a goalie prospect for him. A former NHL starter who used to be the best goalie outside of the NHL went for a conditional seventh so I think we should be able to nab a Vezina winner with Weber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 A former NHL starter who used to be the best goalie outside of the NHL went for a conditional seventh so I think we should be able to nab a Vezina winner with Weber Tim Thomas? He's prepping his apocalyptic safehouse in Colorado next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Nothing wrong with having a 40 assist, 45 point dman on your third pair. Just stick Emelin beside him to lay out the hits. Allen - Subban Markov - Gorges Do the heavy lifting. Did I miss something? Who is Allen? Also, I's prefer to see Emelin in the top 4, he's good enough, and in fact has a lot of potential. The problem with Kaberle is that he's soft, and terrible defensively, I'd rath have Diaz and a dependable vet on third pairing, and to wherever with that soft ex-leaf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 As for Gomez, what about the sending him to the minors option? As long as it can still be done under the new CBA, there would be possible reasons to go this route. (1)He could be offered a player/coach role with the Bulldogs, he seems to have a good attitude, and it might be a good role for him. (2) He might report, but field offers to play in Europe. (3) He might retire, which might be the best case. Don't forget, when you buy a player out, thats not play money, its real, millions of dollars. Habs might prefer the demotion option instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Did I miss something? Who is Allen? Also, I's prefer to see Emelin in the top 4, he's good enough, and in fact has a lot of potential. The problem with Kaberle is that he's soft, and terrible defensively, I'd rath have Diaz and a dependable vet on third pairing, and to wherever with that soft ex-leaf. Soon to be unrestricted free agent Bryan Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Soon to be unrestricted free agent Bryan Allen. Ok, that would be great, and I know Bergevin plans to be active July 1, so I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Tim Thomas? He's prepping his apocalyptic safehouse in Colorado next year. Who isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 As for Gomez, what about the sending him to the minors option? As long as it can still be done under the new CBA, there would be possible reasons to go this route. (1)He could be offered a player/coach role with the Bulldogs, he seems to have a good attitude, and it might be a good role for him. (2) He might report, but field offers to play in Europe. (3) He might retire, which might be the best case. Don't forget, when you buy a player out, thats not play money, its real, millions of dollars. Habs might prefer the demotion option instead. I realize everyone is trying to be creative, and it's good reading. But Gomez is NOT going to retire. Not a chance. And leave all that bank on the table? Never. And no matter his attitude, a coaching offer seems unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankhab Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I realize everyone is trying to be creative, and it's good reading. But Gomez is NOT going to retire. Not a chance. And leave all that bank on the table? Never. And no matter his attitude, a coaching offer seems unrealistic. Sending him to the minors really would pressure him to do something with his game or look for other options. I'm just saying, will Molson want to fork over all that money to buy him out, even if there is an amnesty clause? Probably, but like I said, there are other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 He pays him less on a buyout than Hamilton Hamilton he gets 10 million over the next two years (5.5 and 4.5) Buyout he gets 6.67 million total over the next four years (1.67 per year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCPetit Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I realize everyone is trying to be creative, and it's good reading. But Gomez is NOT going to retire. Not a chance. And leave all that bank on the table? Never. And no matter his attitude, a coaching offer seems unrealistic. I agree with you. No way he will retire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thib46 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I read from experts that Montreal would be better lending Gomez to another AHL team rather then sending him to Hamilton, if that is possible it may be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I read from experts that Montreal would be better lending Gomez to another AHL team rather then sending him to Hamilton, if that is possible it may be a good idea. It is allowed, provided they find a taker and he clears waivers. Personally I'd use him in Hamilton, the Bulldogs need veterans offensively, why pay him to play against your prospects when he could help them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhfarber Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It is allowed, provided they find a taker and he clears waivers. Personally I'd use him in Hamilton, the Bulldogs need veterans offensively, why pay him to play against your prospects when he could help them? I'd tend to agree with you, but I guess it all depends on his attitude. if Gomez takes his demotion to the AHL very poorly it may not be beneficial to have a brooding veteran down on the farm with all of our impressionable young prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd tend to agree with you, but I guess it all depends on his attitude. if Gomez takes his demotion to the AHL very poorly it may not be beneficial to have a brooding veteran down on the farm with all of our impressionable young prospects. If he's pouty about getting demoted, who's going to want him on their team? It took Edmonton a while to find a taker for Souray years ago and he wasn't even pouting (he was upset with the team and Tambellini decided to keep him away because of his attitude towards the organization). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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