Habs30/31 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Don't worry, Therrien haters are a dying breed! All will be singing his praises come May! lol. save this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 you were doing so good there for a minute. lol ..... hey when we all called to put sekac back in the line up......several games later the coach does it............... and it proves to be the right move. hey he gets paid to know this stuff before we do ...no? so hr....i'm still "doing good" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 i see things differently. (This is not unique to Habs fans - this is sports fans in general.) Let's assume great things, and say the Montréal Canadiens win the Stanley Cup in 2015. (Humor me.) -People will still be complaining about Therien if they complained before - the team will have won despite him, not because of him. -Likewise, whichever players they hate most will still be in their doghouse. If they don't like Plekanec, 70 points and a Stanley Cup won't be enough to change their mind. If they think Desharnais is too small, it won't matter if his line catches fire in the playoffs, he'll be a passenger. If they don't think the Habs are a contender, the cup run will be a fortunate fluke, the team still sucked. Fan negativity is usually not solved by results. Well if you would like to be "humored" and play "make believe" i will oblige.....................If (as you dream) the habs win the cup in 015 i would not be complaining about anybody........but i would be happy for, and thanking Bob Gainey for aquiring Carey Price, PK Subban and Max Paceriotty the habs three best players, that the current management inherited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 as well as celebrating the 25th cup and gonchar winning the conn smythe . lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Dallas top 4 d-men +/- was +9 to +16 Sergei was -12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 lol ..... hey when we all called to put sekac back in the line up......several games later the coach does it............... and it proves to be the right move. hey he gets paid to know this stuff before we do ...no? so hr....i'm still "doing good" There are perfectly good reasons for him not to have put Sekac in until Bourque had been give the fair shot he'd earned from some pretty stellar play in the playoffs. Other commentators have mentioned this too. He was entitled to a chance to turn it around and the time to do it. I sometimes think we fans can be awfully naive in how we imagine ourselves as great insight providers. Nobody can say MT didn't give Bourque a fair shot.. as he should have. That was the proper way to do it, especially if you've got somebody out there you'd like to come and play in Montreal. Bourque earned some indulgence on our part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 In terms of Bourque getting ice over Sekac, why are people so dismissive of the possibility that the Habs were shopping him and therefore dressing him in the hope that he'd play well enough to persuade other teams to take a flyer on him? This theory eliminates any "issues" between coach and management altogether, and seems pretty plausible to me. When you're trying to trade a guy, you don't, traditionally, depress his value by benching him. Excellent point. MB must have been shopping him before waiving goodby. And he'd earned a full chance to turn it around by his stellar performance in the playoffs. All paid in full.. I really don't think our professional coches and mgrs are really all that dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 same with moen post injuries to the noggen. with his time and service with us, it was only fair for him to see the ice again to find his way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 And all is good cause the Gonch is on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Dallas top 4 d-men +/- was +9 to +16 Sergei was -12 gonchar stats man left that one out of his report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 +/- apparently means a lot...unless you're named Lars Eller. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 +/- apparently means a lot...unless you're named Lars Eller. Just saying. I think it can mean a lot if you are much worse relative to other players/peers on team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think it can mean a lot if you are much worse relative to other players/peers on team. Like Eller, whose -15 was a statistical outlier on the Habs last season, and whose -7 is continuing in exactly the same vein this year. This, while having fans repeatedly defend his defensive game. Doesn't count, though, because he is L'il Baby Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Like Eller, whose -15 was a statistical outlier on the Habs last season, and whose -7 is continuing in exactly the same vein this year. This, while having fans repeatedly defend his defensive game. Doesn't count, though, because he is L'il Baby Lars. Yes agree dosent count and every bottom six Hab is -, but if Eller is given good linemates, like 11-27, a hot Bourque (and not boat-anchor -9 version of Rene), or simply a Sekac and different story. How long till he and Sekac see PP time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 it should be sooner rather than later! I've just about had it with DD! and besides, Max Perimeter is already outside, we cant have everyone on the perimeter ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I think it can mean a lot if you are much worse relative to other players/peers on team. Eller a plus in play offs.....plekanic a minus 7 all relative i guess it should be sooner rather than later! I've just about had it with DD! and besides, Max Perimeter is already outside, we cant have everyone on the perimeter ffs i hear ya ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yes agree dosent count and every bottom six Hab is -, but if Eller is given good linemates, like 11-27, a hot Bourque (and not boat-anchor -9 version of Rene), or simply a Sekac and different story. How long till he and Sekac see PP time? thats right. as long as Eller gets his game back to where it was in the play offs .... we'll be alright and plekanic and dd dont get there game back to where it was in the play offs..... we'll be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 same with moen post injuries to the noggen. with his time and service with us, it was only fair for him to see the ice again to find his way I was forgetting that, and I agree. Weise was talking about "what a great room" the Habs have, the best, and you don't have that without the sense that you are in an essentially just relationship with the coach and management. Moen earned a solid chance to regain his form. We owe our players that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 ESPN recently ranked Therrien 12th among all NHL coaches which I'd say is fair. http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?storyId=11750963&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B"ref"%3A"https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F"%7D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 ESPN recently ranked Therrien 12th among all NHL coaches which I'd say is fair. http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?storyId=11750963&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B"ref"%3A"https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F"%7D I would have to respectfully disagree, I believe that there are at lest 5 coaches in the bottom 18 who are better than him. Starting with Bob Hartley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovett's Magnatones Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 John Cooper is a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Like Eller, whose -15 was a statistical outlier on the Habs last season, and whose -7 is continuing in exactly the same vein this year. This, while having fans repeatedly defend his defensive game. Doesn't count, though, because he is L'il Baby Lars. i hear that....... like plekanic a minus 7 in the play offs ......yet players like bourque weaver and Eller were plus 7 and plus 8 tends to mean something when you are always a minus in the play offs yet a plus in the reg season? on the same team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I would have to respectfully disagree, I believe that there are at lest 5 coaches in the bottom 18 who are better than him. Starting with Bob Hartley. And I thought you were a convert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 John Cooper is a fraud. So far from what i have observed and heard from him ( hockey central yesterday) After play off series with habs ( Prime Time with Bob Macoun, I would not disagree with your take on Cooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 ESPN recently ranked Therrien 12th among all NHL coaches which I'd say is fair. http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?storyId=11750963&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B"ref"%3A"https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ca%2F"%7D 12TH A bit high. Carey Price helped move him up a few rank spots I'm sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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