Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Why would the chances of Emelin having Edmonton on his trade list be good. I'd say it's pretty unlikely he wants to go to the worst team in the game. Especially in a contract year. His full NTC becomes a limited NTC this upcoming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Why would the chances of Emelin having Edmonton on his trade list be good. I'd say it's pretty unlikely he wants to go to the worst team in the game. Especially in a contract year. My bad, I got stumped by the double-negative (i.e., is not on the no-go list). To be clear, I figure Emelin wants nothing to do with EDM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Lol, that is confusing. I just read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I really don't think the price for Yakupov would be Emelin, certainly not Emelin alone... Edmonton needs good defensemen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 For those speculating about Emelin/EDM, Edmonton is the most frequently named team when players submit their limited NTC list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Given this (ridiculous) NTC, and the reasonable assumption that Emelin will nix a trade to Edmonton, maybe we should think about who else we'd send back. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Given this (ridiculous) NTC, and the reasonable assumption that Emelin will nix a trade to Edmonton, maybe we should think about who else we'd send back. Any suggestions? Look it just wouldn't right not say DD. I'll just say it. They need defence maybe a barberio and a pateryn might do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'm pretty sure that Edmonton want Beaulieu and that Bergevin doesn't want to give Beaulieu due to Tinordi's failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'm pretty sure that Edmonton want Beaulieu and that Bergevin doesn't want to give Beaulieu due to Tinordi's failure. Beaulieu is too much. I would want more from them that Yak. I want Yak but at the right price. N8 will be great in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Beaulieu is too much. I would want more from them that Yak. I want Yak but at the right price. N8 will be great in a year or so.Totally agree. Just saying that a trade for Yakupov would, IMO, have to include Beaulieu. Sure, they should send something else with Yakupov in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Dreger says the best offer the oilers got at the deadline was a 2nd rounder. If thats the high bid right now i dont think emelin plus third would be crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRP Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Dreger says the best offer the oilers got at the deadline was a 2nd rounder. If thats the high bid right now i dont think emelin plus third would be crazy I would do Emelin and a 2nd...just to be rid of Emelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm 50 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 What has Yakupov done to prove that he was a good #1 pick ? If the Habs and Bergevin picked first and had such results the fans would want Bergevin or Timmins head. Don't pay too much for an unproven player but pay well for a top player who's available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I think if they swing a non-crippling deal for Yakupov, and add a quality top-6 FW as a UFA, they can certainly go into next season optimistic that we've fixed the most glaring area of organizational weakness. Personally, I'd be OK (not overjoyed) with adding said quality UFA and then trusting to a rookie or a patch-up job to fill the last spot up front; but if that guy could be Yakupov, well, so much the better. It's pretty rare that a #1 overall pick completely flames out, and it IS significant that he's been trapped in an organization where most players seem to fall short of their potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Sportsnet did a good write up on the Yakupov situation. The scouts really don't seem to like the kid. I think Lovette mentioned it too when he watched Yak live; he's apparently clueless without the puck. We watched a decent amount of sting games while Yakupov was there, he looked damn good. Great release and his defensive game wasn't terrible by any means. Maybe some time in the minors, before the show, would have done him some good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yakupov is a bust. Hes playing with McDavid and still not performing adequatley. The kid is lost. No hockey sense at all. Nobody will offer Edmonton anything of value for him. If they had he'd have been moved already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs owned the 70's Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 As to the +- thing (a useless stat) there are 8 guys on the entire sad team that are 0 or more. Connor Mcdavid is +1 with 45 points for crying out loud. The top guy is a +8. Sounds like a team epidemic to me. Yes It's mostly a team stat that's flawed but he manages to be near the most minus on the team every year so it can't be a coincidence. The stat means more when you compare him to his teammates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Edmonton destroys players. Hall makes mistakes he never made in Windsor. Eberle was a two way forward in junior and now he doesn't know how to backcheck. Maybe like Gagner he never recovers but I'd still take the risk when we have two second round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yes It's mostly a team stat that's flawed but he manages to be near the most minus on the team every year so it can't be a coincidence. The stat means more when you compare him to his teammates. Or you could look at usage, quality of competition, corsi, fenwick, and pdo. Stats analysis can be useful but there is so much more info that is avaliable today and better than plus/minus so why live with it still? Maybe in lower leagues its still okay... but in the nhl now there is no reason to pay attention to plus/minus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 If we could clear some cap space (Eller Emelin and dd) we could also sign Okposo. I like him a lot better than a Yakupov experiement but why not both? We could potentially being back a second line LW in one of the Eller dd Emelin trades, OR if I'm being unrealistic another UFA. A top six of Patch-Chucky-Yakupov Perron/Ladd- Plekanec - Okposo Just a tad better than what we have now (except way better) Of course Ladd + Okposo will probably take up 12 mill total. Emelin Eller dd take up 11.1 mill.. Not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 How can you not have Gallagher in your top 6??? If we could clear some cap space (Eller Emelin and dd) we could also sign Okposo. I like him a lot better than a Yakupov experiement but why not both? We could potentially being back a second line LW in one of the Eller dd Emelin trades, OR if I'm being unrealistic another UFA. A top six of Patch-Chucky-Yakupov Perron/Ladd- Plekanec - Okposo Just a tad better than what we have now (except way better) Of course Ladd + Okposo will probably take up 12 mill total. Emelin Eller dd take up 11.1 mill.. Not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 How can you not have Gallagher in your top 6??? Because I had a huge brain fart. Gallagher missing for the bulk of the year messed with me haha. Scrap Yakupov and plop in Gallagher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 If we could clear some cap space (Eller Emelin and dd) we could also sign Okposo. I like him a lot better than a Yakupov experiement but why not both? We could potentially being back a second line LW in one of the Eller dd Emelin trades, OR if I'm being unrealistic another UFA. A top six of Patch-Chucky-Yakupov Perron/Ladd- Plekanec - Okposo Just a tad better than what we have now (except way better) Of course Ladd + Okposo will probably take up 12 mill total. Emelin Eller dd take up 11.1 mill.. Not impossible. It would be tough to move DD,Eller, and Emelin without bringing some type of cap hit in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 It would be tough to move DD,Eller, and Emelin without bringing some type of cap hit in return. Bergevin had success dumping Gorges, Moen and Bourque without the Habs taking crippling cap returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Bergevin had success dumping Gorges, Moen and Bourque without the Habs taking crippling cap returns. He still took players back though. It's not like we're just going to clear Desharnais and Eller's cap hit. Who even wants either of them for the money they're making? I guess the one year remaining for both helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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