JMMR Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I am very happy I was wrong and he is on the team. Elated in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Came across a fun stat: PK has 3 points and is a -10 in 9 games since being named to team Canada. The worry about that is despite the very short sample size, there's a chance it's an indication that perhaps he needs constant motivation to be Norris caliber and worthy of a paycheck representing that. He has been playing all world hockey trying to lock up that big contract and also to make team Canada. I'm slightly worried that without significant personal motivation we may not see the best PK that we can night in and night out. Says the guy in a picture with him as my display Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Came across a fun stat: PK has 3 points and is a -10 in 9 games since being named to team Canada. The worry about that is despite the very short sample size, there's a chance it's an indication that perhaps he needs constant motivation to be Norris caliber and worthy of a paycheck representing that. He has been playing all world hockey trying to lock up that big contract and also to make team Canada. I'm slightly worried that without significant personal motivation we may not see the best PK that we can night in and night out. Says the guy in a picture with him as my display Sorry, I honestly think that's ridiculous. The team is going through a rough patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Came across a fun stat: PK has 3 points and is a -10 in 9 games since being named to team Canada. The worry about that is despite the very short sample size, there's a chance it's an indication that perhaps he needs constant motivation to be Norris caliber and worthy of a paycheck representing that. He has been playing all world hockey trying to lock up that big contract and also to make team Canada. I'm slightly worried that without significant personal motivation we may not see the best PK that we can night in and night out. Says the guy in a picture with him as my display So you are hinting u would trade him? Would cause one huge shitstorm (Bergevin-Molson would need bodyguards and plexiglass around their seats), but the return would also be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 So you are hinting u would trade him? Would cause one huge shitstorm (Bergevin-Molson would need bodyguards and plexiglass around their seats), but the return would also be huge. Heck no I wouldn't trade him. I was just expressing my concern about how he took his foot off the gas pedal since being named to team Canada. Only time will tell how everything plays out. There is no doubt he is a top 5 dman in the league when he is on his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I heard Ray Ferraro say something interesting on the radio about this, in the context of Chicago's recent struggles. He suggested that players that are going to the Olympics are highly distracted in the lead-up to the games - their minds are elsewhere - and that because the Hawks have so many guys going to the games, they're not playing as well. Well, if that is right, it's highly relevant to ye Habs. We are chock-full of Olympians. And it might go some way to explaining the pathetic team play of late. If Subban is -9 in the last few games, that's probably because he's looking ahead to Sochi. A trap one might expect a young player to fall into, considering that more seasoned players (the Hawks) are doing the same. All the negativity around the Habs might also be tempered by considering the possibility of an "Olympics effect" on a team like ours that is full of Olympians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The Olympic theory would be most telling in a guy like Markov, who might think he needs to budget his effort. I could see it being a distraction for Subban, who already has enough on his plate with his contract situation and supterstar status. On the other hand, guys like Price and Pleks haven't missed a step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 The Olympic theory would be most telling in a guy like Markov, who might think he needs to budget his effort. I could see it being a distraction for Subban, who already has enough on his plate with his contract situation and supterstar status. On the other hand, guys like Price and Pleks haven't missed a step. There is quite a difference between PK and price/pleks. Price and pleks are probably 2 of the calmest and focused guys on the team. PK on the other hand is a highly emotional individual which is what gets him onto trouble. I could see him being a little scrambled with all that is going on. The losing streak, so he tries too hard, the olympics so he tries too hard, his contract so he tries too hard. I think we get the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I know Luongo didn't do well in playoffs after winning gold, but I don't know how most players did after 2010 Olympics? Or if any real impact at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 There is quite a difference between PK and price/pleks. Price and pleks are probably 2 of the calmest and focused guys on the team. PK on the other hand is a highly emotional individual which is what gets him onto trouble. I could see him being a little scrambled with all that is going on. The losing streak, so he tries too hard, the olympics so he tries too hard, his contract so he tries too hard. I think we get the picture. That's a good point. Overall, the Olympics seem like they would have a negative effect on a team like the Habs. Not only are we sending a lot of guys, but a lot key players to their national teams (or controversial ones like PK). Chicago's in a similar position, and their performance of late has suffered too. I think the toll will be especially hard in April, when players who didn't get a three week break are really starting to feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That's a good point. Overall, the Olympics seem like they would have a negative effect on a team like the Habs. Not only are we sending a lot of guys, but a lot key players to their national teams (or controversial ones like PK). Chicago's in a similar position, and their performance of late has suffered too. I think the toll will be especially hard in April, when players who didn't get a three week break are really starting to feel it. bofff. Didn,t Chicago win the Cup in 2010 despite sending SEVERAL players to the Olympics in key position ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Who has to room with PK the snore machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Pretty bummed out that P.K is scratched for game one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonhabs Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Pretty bummed out that P.K is scratched for game one. Get use to it i think babcock isn't a fan of him. You know P.K really isn't that good he only won the norris last year. Brutal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Get use to it i think babcock isn't a fan of him. You know P.K really isn't that good he only won the norris last year. Brutal He is young, takes penalties and prone to costly defensive gaffs, that is bottom line. But, he would be in my lineup over Bowmeister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yeah, pretty rare for the apparent "best D-man" in the league last year to not crack the line up against Norway. It just sucks because even when he does enter the line up he's not going to be his normal self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 PK's biggest problem has been the tendency to take long, winding paths down low in his own end which sometimes lead to him coughing up the puck. (He does much better when he simply bulldozes straight out of the zone, usually with one hand on his stick while fending off forecheckers with the other; I suspect part of the reason for his recent proclivity to go for self-destructive skates in his own end is that the idiot coaching staff has been criticizing that highly successful strategy as too "high-risk," even though PK pulls it off 99% of the time. Remember, it is axiomatic that PK Subban must not be allowed to be anything other than Josh Gorges). Anyway, my point is this: I actually think PK's defensive weaknesses will be significantly reduced on the bigger ice, because he is such a strong skater. More room means less likelihood of getting ensnared in his own end. Doesn't matter. The plodders have him pegged as the 7th d-man and that's that. Evidence has never been relevant where this young man is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 PK's biggest problem has been the tendency to take long, winding paths down low in his own end which sometimes lead to him coughing up the puck. (He does much better when he simply bulldozes straight out of the zone, usually with one hand on his stick while fending off forecheckers with the other; I suspect part of the reason for his recent proclivity to go for self-destructive skates in his own end is that the idiot coaching staff has been criticizing that highly successful strategy as too "high-risk," even though PK pulls it off 99% of the time. Remember, it is axiomatic that PK Subban must not be allowed to be anything other than Josh Gorges). Anyway, my point is this: I actually think PK's defensive weaknesses will be significantly reduced on the bigger ice, because he is such a strong skater. More room means less likelihood of getting ensnared in his own end. Doesn't matter. The plodders have him pegged as the 7th d-man and that's that. Evidence has never been relevant where this young man is concerned. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 He is young, takes penalties and prone to costly defensive gaffs, that is bottom line. But, he would be in my lineup over Bowmeister. He also a truly gifted athlete with great wheels, very strong, and can stickhandle extremely well. He is good defensively and offensively, which is the problem, you aren't supposed to be that good at his age and he must wait his turn. He reminds of Serge Savard. If they let him play his game he could another Serge without the broken legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 This really is a North American hockey problem and it's going to come and bite them on the ass. Team USA leaves off Yandle, Team Canada doesn't consider Subban for a permanent slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Watching the game v.s. Norway, I really wish PK were out there - he would absolutely thrive in that environment and he'd lift the fans out of their seats. Instead we get to watch Hamhuis and Vlasec Someone around here should start game threads for these Olympic hockey games. Just a thought. Canadian unis look great on TV IMHO. One of our best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Kinda funny how we put Crosby with probably our two worst forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brobin Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Luongo has had almost as much action as Price so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Someone around here should start game threads for these Olympic hockey games. Just a thought. Feel free. Given how many I do during when the season is on (plus every AHL one), I'm on a GDT holiday...until Saturday, then Hamilton plays again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 To be honest it's pretty clear that it's more than just PK. They were playing John Tavares on the fourth line. How in the heck does one justify playing the second best healthy Canadian forward in the league on the fourth line? That's like if Russia decided to play Malkin on the fourth line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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