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"Dallas Stars centre Mike Ribeiro has let go of the bitterness he felt toward the Montreal Canadiens. It helped when the Canadiens, who dealt Ribeiro to the Stars last fall, finished out of the NHL playoffs."I didn't want them to make the playoffs. I got my wish," Ribeiro said with a laugh prior to the Stars facing the Vancouver Canucks in Friday's Game 2 of their Western Conference quarter-final series."

we're happy to be rid of him

Even if he leads a playoff team in scoring... :huh:

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This was posted in the Rive tthread that's in the NHL Talk section.

Believe me, Ribs is playing the exact same hockey he did in Montreal. If anything, he looks slower and less shifty nowadays. But whatever, let the Dallas fans believe they have a star.

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This was posted in the Rive tthread that's in the NHL Talk section.

Believe me, Ribs is playing the exact same hockey he did in Montreal. If anything, he looks slower and less shifty nowadays. But whatever, let the Dallas fans believe they have a star.

Well the Dallas fans do have a playoff team :( .

Sorry BTH didn't see the link in the Rivet thread anyway maybe Ribs' comments deserve their own thread -- funny though the article describes Ribs as a guy with "fast feet," so, if he's seen that way in Dallas makes me wonder whether the Habs current system results in the players standing around a lot of the time, waiting for the game to come to them, this has been a concern of mine -- also, Rivet commented on what he called this "passive" style.

I'm a Habs fan forever not dissing the team but mahn over the years I've seen too many players go on to success elsewhere, now no surprise Ribs put up great numbers with the Stars -- bet you if Kovalev moves he has a great season on 07/08.

What do you think, maybe Habs coaching staff should turn the players loose, promote more aggression, forecheck, push the play more .. . .?

Last note -- have not seen a load of games but from what I saw of him Ribs is a tremendously creative player . . . . .

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Hey let the poor kid alone. He was really picked on during his time here. Much was expected and we really laid it to him for not delivering. Its over and he is done.

Just as much as we say "we hate his attitude..." and that he's not "professional.." and label him with any other negative adjective.

I feel its quite within his right to fire back and respond to his time spent here in montreal. He spoke honestly and has every right to express is opinion. We the fans may need to learn from this experience so as to avoid lossing on other talented players down the road. Be it rookies from within or UFA's from outside of the organization.

criticism is one thing but the constant picking on and harassing of players for little issues must end. If we are to build on great players and attract better ones we need to create an environment healthy for them to play in...

Gainey tried to express this point early in his tenure as GM. in asking the fans not to boo the team, but be supportive. Home ice is supposed to be an advantage. But players like Ribs and Rivs. and many others will attest to the difficult nature of playing in this town.

Professional expectations and respect must go hand in hand. That must work both ways.

Finally don't forget that we are not back in the old days of the NHL where montreal could pick the best players in the draft from areas around montreal and had a monopoly on talent. Today we need to attract talent and that requires us to set good examples and create a perfect climate to play in and play for, tradition starts and end with winning teams and we the fans are a big part of that formula.

GO HABS GO!

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Hey let the poor kid alone. He was really picked on during his time here. Much was expected and we really laid it to him for not delivering. Its over and he is done.

Just as much as we say "we hate his attitude..." and that he's not "professional.." and label him with any other negative adjective.

I feel its quite within his right to fire back and respond to his time spent here in montreal. He spoke honestly and has every right to express is opinion. We the fans may need to learn from this experience so as to avoid lossing on other talented players down the road. Be it rookies from within or UFA's from outside of the organization.

criticism is one thing but the constant picking on and harassing of players for little issues must end. If we are to build on great players and attract better ones we need to create an environment healthy for them to play in...

Gainey tried to express this point early in his tenure as GM. in asking the fans not to boo the team, but be supportive. Home ice is supposed to be an advantage. But players like Ribs and Rivs. and many others will attest to the difficult nature of playing in this town.

Professional expectations and respect must go hand in hand. That must work both ways.

Finally don't forget that we are not back in the old days of the NHL where montreal could pick the best players in the draft from areas around montreal and had a monopoly on talent. Today we need to attract talent and that requires us to set good examples and create a perfect climate to play in and play for, tradition starts and end with winning teams and we the fans are a big part of that formula.

GO HABS GO!

They are all good points but if Ribs gets to have his opinions then so does the media and fans.

The most common negative comment on Ribs is that if he actually put in a 100% effort in every game he could be unstoppable; and yeah we are a little pissed that he can rip the team that put up with his half assed efforts for so long without making him accountable for it.

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flourishing? really?

a guy who played 9 shifts in game 2 of the playoffs

1 shift in the 3rd period

3 shifts at even strength.

Yeah... I really wish we didn't have plekanec playing ribs' minutes in mtl.

7:46 TOI, third lowest on the team... they must really count on him.

Oh, at least he still has the longest average shift for forwards on the team.

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flourishing? really?

Sure maybe didn't get a lot of ice time last game but flourishing hell yes, Stars season stats:

Player GP G A Pts +/-

Mike Ribeiro 80 18 41 59 4

Ladislav Nagy 79 12 42 54 -7

Sergei Zubov 77 11 42 53 -1

Philippe Boucher 75 19 30 49 2

Jussi Jokinen 81 14 33 47 9

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Well the Dallas fans do have a playoff team :( .

Sorry BTH didn't see the link in the Rivet thread anyway maybe Ribs' comments deserve their own thread -- funny though the article describes Ribs as a guy with "fast feet," so, if he's seen that way in Dallas makes me wonder whether the Habs current system results in the players standing around a lot of the time, waiting for the game to come to them, this has been a concern of mine -- also, Rivet commented on what he called this "passive" style.

I'm a Habs fan forever not dissing the team but mahn over the years I've seen too many players go on to success elsewhere, now no surprise Ribs put up great numbers with the Stars -- bet you if Kovalev moves he has a great season on 07/08.

What do you think, maybe Habs coaching staff should turn the players loose, promote more aggression, forecheck, push the play more .. . .?

Last note -- have not seen a load of games but from what I saw of him Ribs is a tremendously creative player . . . . .

Ribs' numbers with the stars are almost the same as his numbers were here, but Dallas is in the playoffs for a whole bunch of other reasons. I'm glad Ribs' gone, but at the same time, I TOTALLY agree that we should play a different system ... I've said this in basically EVERY thread I've commented in for the last 3 months.

Hey let the poor kid alone. He was really picked on during his time here. Much was expected and we really laid it to him for not delivering. Its over and he is done.

Just as much as we say "we hate his attitude..." and that he's not "professional.." and label him with any other negative adjective.

I feel its quite within his right to fire back and respond to his time spent here in montreal. He spoke honestly and has every right to express is opinion. We the fans may need to learn from this experience so as to avoid lossing on other talented players down the road. Be it rookies from within or UFA's from outside of the organization.

criticism is one thing but the constant picking on and harassing of players for little issues must end. If we are to build on great players and attract better ones we need to create an environment healthy for them to play in...

Gainey tried to express this point early in his tenure as GM. in asking the fans not to boo the team, but be supportive. Home ice is supposed to be an advantage. But players like Ribs and Rivs. and many others will attest to the difficult nature of playing in this town.

Professional expectations and respect must go hand in hand. That must work both ways.

Finally don't forget that we are not back in the old days of the NHL where montreal could pick the best players in the draft from areas around montreal and had a monopoly on talent. Today we need to attract talent and that requires us to set good examples and create a perfect climate to play in and play for, tradition starts and end with winning teams and we the fans are a big part of that formula.

GO HABS GO!

I agree that the atmosphere in montreal of CONSTANT stress is what drives away so many players and I wish the fans would be better and more respectful ... Whehter we like them or don't like them, Rivet and Ribs' comments really do say what they're actually feeling about the city and the stress of playing here.

In Ribs' case, I feel that I had no problems with his earlier comments in another article, when he said that whatever he did here, it wasn't enough and ppl were always down on him. What I think is unprofessional is the comment that he made about "I didn't want them to make the playoffs and I got my wish". He may feel that way, and no one actually has any right to tell him not to, but that's something that if I was an NHL player, I'd tell my close friends, not reporters who are going to tell the whole world. Ribs is too honest and not particularly mature or selective about his words.

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Sure maybe didn't get a lot of ice time last game but flourishing hell yes, Stars season stats:

Player GP G A Pts +/-

Mike Ribeiro 80 18 41 59 4

Ladislav Nagy 79 12 42 54 -7

Sergei Zubov 77 11 42 53 -1

Philippe Boucher 75 19 30 49 2

Jussi Jokinen 81 14 33 47 9

sounds pretty much in line with Ribeiro's last 2 years in montreal...

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sounds pretty much in line with Ribeiro's last 2 years in montreal...

Yes you are right simonus, but we'd love to have Nagy right? And Ribs bettered him in points and +/-, so dunno I suppose I just ask myself why the Habs seem determined to make players play a passive system rather than building on the strengths of the players they have . .. .I followed Ribeiro for years and figured him as a creative playmaker who would bring some zing to the Habs, now I accept and respect the decision to move Ribs but can't say I enjoy seeing him as the leading scorer of a team that is in the playoffs,,,,,

And we got . .... Niinimaa?

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Yes you are right simonus, but we'd love to have Nagy right? And Ribs bettered him in points and +/-, so dunno I suppose I just ask myself why the Habs seem determined to make players play a passive system rather than building on the strengths of the players they have . .. .I followed Ribeiro for years and figured him as a creative playmaker who would bring some zing to the Habs, now I accept and respect the decision to move Ribs but can't say I enjoy seeing him as the leading scorer of a team that is in the playoffs,,,,,

would you have been happy keeping ribs around as a PP specialist? Based on our PP% I don't think that was our need. This is a guy who was 20th on his team for Even Strength TOI/G. Yeah, he's leading scorer - because:

Brendan Morrow played 40 games

Mike Modano played 59 games

Eric Lindros played 49 games

Now with 2 of those three back, Dallas is all too happy to get Ribs off the ice as much as possible.

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Who cares about Ribiero.

He was overated from the get go because the Montreal Press is clamoring for a French Superstar.

He was dead weight and losing him made no difference to us missing the playoffs.

He got 59 points in 80 games....hardly thriving in Dallas.

Dallas is going nowhere with him being their leading scorer, so let him take his jabs at the Habs.

When the 2007 Season is concluded he will not be wearing a Stanley Cup ring and neither will we.

Maybe he can make an ass of himself against Vancouver and fake an injury again.

He worried more about how his hair looked than winning hockey games, good riddance

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"Dallas Stars centre Mike Ribeiro has let go of the bitterness he felt toward the Montreal Canadiens. It helped when the Canadiens, who dealt Ribeiro to the Stars last fall, finished out of the NHL playoffs."I didn't want them to make the playoffs. I got my wish," Ribeiro said with a laugh prior to the Stars facing the Vancouver Canucks in Friday's Game 2 of their Western Conference quarter-final series."

we're happy to be rid of him

Even if he leads a playoff team in scoring... :huh:

Don't forget the guy said this half joking and said just after that he wish Habs to make playoffs next year though.

I miss Mike and its creativity.

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Brendan Morrow played 40 games

Mike Modano played 59 games

Eric Lindros played 49 games

Now with 2 of those three back, Dallas is all too happy to get Ribs off the ice as much as possible.

:clap:

This just proves how "close" he was with his teammates. If you face your old team head-to-head, then yeah, you can feel good about beating them. But as much as you hate an organization, you shouldn't be getting joy out of your old teammates failing. It takes a sad, bitter man to wish failure upon people whom he was teammates with. He may have been a Canadien, but he obviously was not really part of the team.

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would you have been happy keeping ribs around as a PP specialist? Based on our PP% I don't think that was our need. This is a guy who was 20th on his team for Even Strength TOI/G. Yeah, he's leading scorer - because:

Brendan Morrow played 40 games

Mike Modano played 59 games

Eric Lindros played 49 games

Now with 2 of those three back, Dallas is all too happy to get Ribs off the ice as much as possible.

Ribs would have been 3rd on Montreal in points this year, and he played 3rd line minutes in Dallas.

I don't think anyone is claiming he is a superstar, but he is a solid hockey player in terms of production. His defensive play improved this year (probably a combination of maturity and coaching) and he was praised in Dallas for stepping up when all the injuries hit.

:clap:

This just proves how "close" he was with his teammates. If you face your old team head-to-head, then yeah, you can feel good about beating them. But as much as you hate an organization, you shouldn't be getting joy out of your old teammates failing. It takes a sad, bitter man to wish failure upon people whom he was teammates with. He may have been a Canadien, but he obviously was not really part of the team.

Did you read the whole story? He was joking. He also ended the interview by saying how next year he would be pulling for Montreal again.

Lots of players have said stuff like this over the years when they get dumped by a team. He has a right to be pissed. Unlike many people on the team, Ribs has always said it was a dream come true to be playing for the Habs. I wish more current habs had that attitude.... Sammy anyone?

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I've watched some highlights of Ribs on NHL.com the other day. Technically speaking, I think his speed is as good as it'll ever be. His execution seems alot faster though. He's not holding unto the puck forever anymore.

That being said, looking at the depth we have at C with Plex, Lapy, Grabs, Chipper, and even Aubin, White and etc. Ribs really had nowhere to go in Montreal.

There's really no story here. Ribs' comments are really nothing exceptional. Its like guys bad-mouthing their exes. You know 90% of the time they'd still bang her if the opportunity came up. :P

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At the start of the season I thought that althought the CH didn't have any top notch scorers in its

roster at least it had 4 talented centers spread throught the 4 lines

( Koivu, Ribeiro, Bonk,Plekanec), ..........something that couldn't have been said in regards with some

of our competitors.

An advantage ? I definetly thought so.

An advantage not considered as such by Gainey-Carbo but considered as such by Dallas,...getting Ribeiro increased the scoring depth of their team, losing him decreased ours,.....they made the playoffs,....we didn't.

Lets not forget that Dallas was hurt last summer when losing Harnold '(?) to the UFA market, they also got hit pretty bad during the season with all the injurys,......yet didn't regressed and made the playoffs again.

That's my problem with the CH, we didn't lose crucial players to UFA in the inter-season neither was the team hurt to an overly significand degree with injuries during season.

Our regression took place under much easier cirmconstances,.....this can only be explained or attributed

to the negative effects that resulted from some of the many managerial decisions that where made during that time,........one of them being the Ribeiro-Niinima trade.

That decisions was bad specially because of the timing, we needed Ribeiro one last season,.......what made it even worst, is what we got in return.

We regressed, yet had no excuse to do so, our playoffs record is brought back to the front.....

3 playoffs participation in our last 8 seasons,....ouch !

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For a guy that is so appreciated in Dallas...and was their leading scorer...how come he only played 7 mins in game 2 of the playoffs? He only saw PP time. That is the well rounded team player I know.

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I've been watching the Dallas series, and let me tell you, Ribeiro is a playmaking dynamo for them. The fact is that Ribs is a good, talented hockey player and a go-to offensive guy on a good team. However, I'm not sure he's much better than Plekanec (at least, Plekanec in the second half). The issue is less that we dealt him than that we got so little for him.

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