ForumGhost Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 According to Dreger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromage Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 par for the course. there never was really a chance of Gorges taking his qualifying offer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 What does Arbitration mean for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 His agent also says they hope to have a deal finalized prior to arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Just a bit of a bargaining chip for Gorges. However, he can't be traded nor tendered an offer sheet from another team... so until his arbitration ruling, he is not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 i love it cause he ain't going anywhere. PG is not dum enough to let him go and he isn't crazy enough to ask for the moon. this almost guarantees he will be signed. thank god allah or whoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Love Gorges heart and effort and he will get signed soon, but if happens to get packaged and traded, wouldnt be a big hole to fill (wont happen but). If Gauthier was offered a Ekman-Larsson or someone similar in a deal, Josh and whomever should be shipped off quickly (other than Subban and Price i would trade anyone for younger talent). But, deal will be done before July 20th and the way salaries are being handed out, he may even get $3.5/year or more and i bet a fairly long deal of 5 years and $16.5m, my guess (i had earlier thought he would be below $3/year) i love it cause he ain't going anywhere. PG is not dum enough to let him go and he isn't crazy enough to ask for the moon. this almost guarantees he will be signed. thank god allah or whoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Love Gorges heart and effort and he will get signed soon, but if happens to get packaged and traded, wouldnt be a big hole to fill (wont happen but). If Gauthier was offered a Ekman-Larsson or someone similar in a deal, Josh and whomever should be shipped off quickly (other than Subban and Price i would trade anyone for younger talent). But, deal will be done before July 20th and the way salaries are being handed out, he may even get $3.5/year or more and i bet a fairly long deal of 5 years and $16.5m, my guess (i had earlier thought he would be below $3/year) O_O Are you kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Gorges should have filed. I don't blame him. His NHL market value is 3 million floor. 4 or more ceiling. We've all seen the human eraser take it away against 2 attackers down low (double teamed) and he takes it away and distributes the puck or carries it out again and again. Night in, night out! Maybe he does it in his sleep. He's also punishing with his checks since he tends to finish them with a powerful hip so opponents fall. THN called him the 6th best defensive D in the NHL 2 years ago (Liddy was number 1) and Gorges hasn't lost a beat after that assessment. Too bad he can't hit the broadside of a barn with his shots GORGES IS ONE OF MY FAVS! CAPTAIN KELOWNA ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 No not kidding one bit, again; i love his play and heart; however he is smallish, dosent clear front of net, dosent hit, dosent score, dosent fight, so to replace a smart shot blocker not that big a deal. Re-sign Komisarik would do it (even if he is a big loud-mouthed pussy).. Hey, just my opinion, when Gorges went down hurt the PK suffered for a bit, but not significantly, never gave up 1 PP goal vs Bruins (i know it was the Bruins,but still). O_O Are you kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Gorges has more intangibles than just shot blocking. He takes hits behind his goalie and comes out with the puck consistently. On two on ones and one on ones his angles and decisions are almost always correct. He doesn't take himself out of position to hit someone. Positionally he is very strong and that counts for a lot. If you watch the greats like Chara Lidstrom... they never seem to do too much to kill a play. They just never make positional mistakes. It's hard to see why they are so good because they anticipate and stay in position. I don't see too many shut down defensemen out there with a lot more upside than Gorges. Other than his ACL. Who knows what will come of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 20 days before the audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Gorges has more intangibles than just shot blocking. He takes hits behind his goalie and comes out with the puck consistently. On two on ones and one on ones his angles and decisions are almost always correct. He doesn't take himself out of position to hit someone. Positionally he is very strong and that counts for a lot. If you watch the greats like Chara Lidstrom... they never seem to do too much to kill a play. They just never make positional mistakes. It's hard to see why they are so good because they anticipate and stay in position. I don't see too many shut down defensemen out there with a lot more upside than Gorges. Other than his ACL. Who knows what will come of that. Not to mention that Gorges was playing at a very high level with that torn ACL for a long time! The guy is a warrior and certainly seems to be one hell of a good team mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Not to mention that Gorges was playing at a very high level with that torn ACL for a long time! The guy is a warrior and certainly seems to be one hell of a good team mate. Anyone know his arbitration date? I think this is the next rung on ladder. Probably White and ST. Denis will not be signed ahead of this decision. Something like stacking boxes, if your concerned about space, the big boxes go first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Anyone know his arbitration date? I think this is the next rung on ladder. Probably White and ST. Denis will not be signed ahead of this decision. Something like stacking boxes, if your concerned about space, the big boxes go first. July 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Anyone know his arbitration date? I think this is the next rung on ladder. Probably White and ST. Denis will not be signed ahead of this decision. Something like stacking boxes, if your concerned about space, the big boxes go first. They can still accept their QO's for another four days. There's no way the Habs even approach the cap ceiling with their RFA's. I don't think it matters what order it is done in. They'd have to give like Gorges $5m and White $1.5m or something ridiculous to be even close to the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 They can still accept their QO's for another four days. There's no way the Habs even approach the cap ceiling with their RFA's. I don't think it matters what order it is done in. They'd have to give like Gorges $5m and White $1.5m or something ridiculous to be even close to the cap. Thanx for the date. If he was contemplating accepting his qualifing offer he would not be going to arbitration. We all hope we get a long term deal done earlier so we have him for longer than a year. If you have to walk away from the ruling your best scenerio is as much cap room as you can muster. You may have to change gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Thanx for the date. If he was contemplating accepting his qualifing offer he would not be going to arbitration. We all hope we get a long term deal done earlier so we have him for longer than a year. If you have to walk away from the ruling your best scenerio is as much cap room as you can muster. You may have to change gears. Oh, he won't be accepting his QO. White, St. Denis, Carle, etc. might just do that, though. I suspect White can be had for the minimum wage ($525k) if offered a one-way contract. Worked for Pyatt, D'Agostini, and Chipchura in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Gorges signs for 1 year at $2.5M. As per Darren Dreger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Great price, bad term. I thought they would take this opportunity to lock in a core player at a slightly reduced rate. Oh well. 5.1 million in cap space remains... Do the Habs stand pat or aim big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Great price, bad term. I thought they would take this opportunity to lock in a core player at a slightly reduced rate. Oh well. 5.1 million in cap space remains... Do the Habs stand pat or aim big? Impressive cap management considering the number of over-priced contracts they're lugging around. As for 'aiming big,' one question is whether there is any way to swing a big move that would enhance rather than re-work the core AND not surrender picks/elite young players. E.g., are there any decent UFAs left out there? A second questions is: how much do the Habs need to set aside for Price, Subban and Eller as RFAs next season and Gorges as UFA? I know RFAs generally don't get huge raises, but we may end up needing that dough to pay those guys, especially if we want to lock 'em up. I guess Gauthier was protecting the team in light of Gorges' injury. Maybe, having taken one risk with Markov, he wasn't willing to run a second. I do hope that this hasn't dimmed Gorges's enthusiasm for playing here. A deal like that can instil in a player's mind the idea that his current affiliation is only temporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaac1 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Great signing by Gauthier allthough it was expected, it is a relief that this is done with. But have to point out that I am a bit disappointed with the ONE year he received, and even though gauthier got him at a bargain price of 2.5 million, this could possibly be the last year Gorges will be with the habs, considering all the effort and heart he put in into this team. Its a bit of an insult to find out that the reason why he got only a 1 year deal is because of his injury, gauthier the man is a heart and soul player and a flat out warrior. Just hope it doesn't cost us in the future. Edited July 23, 2011 by jmaac1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 The number 1 and 2 PK fefense killing units in the league is signed. This looks good. PK Gill-Subban Markov- Gorges Emelin PP Markov- Subban Spacek- Weber Pacioretty and Gorges for Craig Rivet... Cross fngers for no bad injuries for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromage Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Great signing by Gauthier allthough it was expected, it is a relief that this is done with. But have to point out that I am a bit disappointed with the ONE year he received, and even though gauthier got him at a bargain price of 2.5 million, this could possibly be the last year Gorges will be with the habs, considering all the effort and heart he put in into this team. Its a bit of an insult to find out that the reason why he got only a 1 year deal is because of his injury, gauthier the man is a heart and soul player and a flat out warrior. Just hope it doesn't cost us in the future. he did file for arbitration. maybe gorges wants out? or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I doubt it. Gautier just didn't want long terms for two players with blown knees. If Gorges is healthy and plays well, he will be re-signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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