BCHabnut Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all were surprised at how badly PAP played lest season. But I have to think that that was his low. Maybe It's all uphill from here and if it isn't, it's only one more year on his contract. We all want to dump him at his absolute low. I just wonder if we shouldn't ride it out one more season. The team as it sits with bad PAP got 110 pts and we're 13 goal posts away from back to back conference finals. Maybe mediocre or even good PAP along with a few more more points from 27 and a better offensive year from NB could be enough. The only player I would look to unload this year is DD. And only if he can be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Not sure which it is but there was a bit of hub bub on a Habs blogger claiming Reway was days from becoming a free agent and his information was incorrect. He was corrected by several people, made up a source that "corrected" for him and said everyone else was just guessing. The article might be on clarifying how his rights extend to 2017. That's what it is. I never bothered linking to the original piece as I was all but certain it was incorrect. One thing of note from that article is that Reway will not be attending rookie or development camp and will not be signing this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's hard to gather enough info on such a small sample, but I have been thinking for a while that Reway is the most offensive player in the prospect Pool as well. Wonder why we don't wanna sign him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's hard to gather enough info on such a small sample, but I have been thinking for a while that Reway is the most offensive player in the prospect Pool as well. Wonder why we don't wanna sign him? It's not a matter of the Habs not wanting to sign him. It's Reway choosing not to sign until he's guaranteed an NHL spot. He's not ready for one yet so he'll keep playing overseas. Montreal has his rights for two more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I would gladly buy out PAP and sign Radulov to a multi year deal. Had he stayed in the NHL he would have been making at least $6M per season on Nashville. He tore up the KHL. This is a guy I'd take a risk on too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 It's not a matter of the Habs not wanting to sign him. It's Reway choosing not to sign until he's guaranteed an NHL spot. He's not ready for one yet so he'll keep playing overseas. Montreal has his rights for two more years. correct... he also left Gatineau after ripping the league up and decided Europe would help him develop more so then another year of junior. he's was right as competition there is 10x more playing against adults! Cant blame a guy for wanting to play in an arena full of fans in a pro league in europe rather then a pro league (AHL) with zero fans in hamilton at an average attendance of like 2,000 That's what it is. I never bothered linking to the original piece as I was all but certain it was incorrect. One thing of note from that article is that Reway will not be attending rookie or development camp and will not be signing this year. he won't attend rookie development camp but i thought i read he would attend training camp?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Radulov isnt real committed teamplayer is he? i laugh at the bad rap this guy got for leaving Nashville... imagine the KHL was better then the NHL and max pacioretty was playing there and decided he wanted to go back to the NHL where he would be able to play in his hometown of connteticut and make more money? is that bad? he was going to make only like 3 million from nashville or something of the sort coming out of his entry level deal... and the his hometown KHL came calling at more then twice the dollars... id go home to!!! and I'm the biggest team player you'll ever find! kovalchuk turned down a $100 million dollar signed contract to go home.... a $100 million turned down to go home. that guy clearly plays hockey for more then just $$... id take either in a heart beat if they were willing to sign... even both He tore up the KHL. This is a guy I'd take a risk on too. yes he did... and he looked elite on russia at the olympics as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Radulov is one of the top five best Russian born players in hockey right now. He also loved playing in Quebec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Radulov is one of the top five best Russian born players in hockey right now. He also loved playing in Quebec. what a force he was for the Remparts.... arguably one of there best ever players... if either he or kovalchuk signed in Mtl we would probably have to pay them upwards of 8/9 million minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 correct... he also left Gatineau after ripping the league up and decided Europe would help him develop more so then another year of junior. he's was right as competition there is 10x more playing against adults! Cant blame a guy for wanting to play in an arena full of fans in a pro league in europe rather then a pro league (AHL) with zero fans in hamilton at an average attendance of like 2,000 he won't attend rookie development camp but i thought i read he would attend training camp?? Montreal's farm team won't be playing in front of 2,000 fans any more. It's expected that they'll sell out every home game in St. John's (or come very close to it). He won't be at training camp barring a shocking development. Montreal's training camp starts around mid-September while the Czech League season starts September 11th. It's not likely that his club team will loan him to the Habs for training camp. It happened once a couple years ago with Collberg (he was under contract at this time) but that was a rare exception, not the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Didn't Radulov go out drinking with Kostitsyn the night before a playoff game? If so, THAT would be the red flag for me. Still, we need offensive talent, so the risk could be worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 yup.... but them russians can drink booze like the most of us drink water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 And this particular one can still dominate a game..hungover or not. I'm on the "bring Radulov to Mtl" train too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Montreal's farm team won't be playing in front of 2,000 fans any more. It's expected that they'll sell out every home game in St. John's (or come very close to it). He won't be at training camp barring a shocking development. Montreal's training camp starts around mid-September while the Czech League season starts September 11th. It's not likely that his club team will loan him to the Habs for training camp. It happened once a couple years ago with Collberg (he was under contract at this time) but that was a rare exception, not the norm. If they continue to play like they did for the last three years, even the St johns folk will stop attending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think we all were surprised at how badly PAP played lest season. But I have to think that that was his low. Maybe It's all uphill from here and if it isn't, it's only one more year on his contract. We all want to dump him at his absolute low. I just wonder if we shouldn't ride it out one more season. The team as it sits with bad PAP got 110 pts and we're 13 goal posts away from back to back conference finals. Maybe mediocre or even good PAP along with a few more more points from 27 and a better offensive year from NB could be enough. The only player I would look to unload this year is DD. And only if he can be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 larry played with prust not del arose in the playoffs and they were a very effective line minus actually finishing. patches, gallagher and plex formed a very dominant line when it came to chances and shots derived, but they just like everybody else on this team were snake bite. I'm not defending anyone here and know you are judged by actual putting the puck in the net. with that said, as evidenced by your constant reminding of how plex said "he played like a girl" back in 2009 or whatever year ions ago... i think you are slightly bias vs the turtle necked czech. plex had his fair share of chances to score or assist and even his failed dump in game 3 was a rare routine mis-hap on his part culminating many, many instances were that round puck just didn't slide in our favour period in these playoffs. and nothing went his way as well as most of our players. you can't dismiss that he didn't play well but had a bad case of that good ol' excuse called "puck luck". in fact he had the game on his stick quite a few times in these playoffs but it just didn't seem to go for him. be it missed empty netters, breakaways, one timers etc... it would be interesting to see the amount of grade A chances plex created with his line mates and how many of those were missed opportunities. his defensive side of the game was good as well as he was able to stymie stamkos for long long stretches just to give one example. didn't he directly hold the most dynamic forward in hockey (arguably) to zero shots in 2 games? something must be said for getting into the right places at the right time at any particular moment and just failing to finish the play. give it a break... plex is a much, much, much, much better rounded hockey player then lars eller! much better! we got it, we need a Center!!! we don't need to get rid of plex though. id argue its DD and eller's $3.5 a piece that have to go also, it wasn't that long ago that plex had the revolving door of line mates on his wing. for years he was the guy who was saddled with almost every player on his wing at one point.... what did he do? just consistently score 20+goals a year on top of being be our best shut down C and continue to be asked to be the first guy over the boards on the first wave of PK and pretty much every situation during a game. and on a side note some might say that galchenyuk's game dropped very very significantly the moment he was displaced from plex's line! just saying put it in perspective.... plex was not invisible in these playoffs. he had his chances and didn't convert.... albeit again.... Yes i am bias. Wont change my mind. Seen enough of pleks since he was here in hamilton then 700 plus games later i'm tired of him. I do agree that he is a good team player and pk specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEWATER77 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Pleks also has trade value....MB should strike while the iron is, um, lukewarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Habs30 I honestly think your wish is going to come true with Plekanec this offseason. His value is high and on an expiring contract. M.B is a cut throat g.m, if the right trade comes along Plek will be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 If they continue to play like they did for the last three years, even the St johns folk will stop attending. Most of it will be through seasons tickets so either way, they'll be sold at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yes i am bias. Wont change my mind. Seen enough of pleks since he was here in hamilton then 700 plus games later i'm tired of him. I do agree that he is a good team player and pk specialist. i also watched him in hamilton... and he scored like 200pts in those 3 seasons.... bias analyst's belong in toronto sports... in montreal we call spades spades, not hearts... he's a very good hockey player and the habs will have a huge hole to fill if he's moved and a 60+pt C who plays the hardest minutes on this hockey team doesn't replace him. like i said before he is not the problem... the problem with plex is he's our best Center when he should be our 2nd best!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 i also watched him in hamilton... and he scored like 200pts in those 3 seasons.... bias analyst's belong in toronto sports... in montreal we call spades spades, not hearts... he's a very good hockey player and the habs will have a huge hole to fill if he's moved and a 60+pt C who plays the hardest minutes on this hockey team doesn't replace him. like i said before he is not the problem... the problem with plex is he's our best Center when he should be our 2nd best!! Poor Plex. Solid.. excellent uber competent quality player who's been just a wonderful Hab for his whole career.. and we want to lynch him. We are such crummy fans. .. as you said IHM.. we could use a number 1 but that doesn't make our indomitable Plex anything but an absolutely excellent centre and Hab. Thanks Plexs for another solid, solid year. You're terrific. We're not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 i also watched him in hamilton... and he scored like 200pts in those 3 seasons.... bias analyst's belong in toronto sports... in montreal we call spades spades, not hearts... he's a very good hockey player and the habs will have a huge hole to fill if he's moved and a 60+pt C who plays the hardest minutes on this hockey team doesn't replace him. like i said before he is not the problem... the problem with plex is he's our best Center when he should be our 2nd best!! said that long ago. HE IS NOT A TRUE NUMBER ONE CENTER..............got blasted for it on here. By bias i mean that i have given up on pleks after years of poor play off games and all but disappearing in elimination games. Would like to have him as a second or third line center. "the problem with pleks is he is our best center when he should be our second best" yes. which also can be stated like this.......... One of the major problems with montreal is Plekanic is their best center. They will never win a cup till that changes. That's calling a spade a spade. Yes in case you need even more clarification. That is knock on our Habs. All poor Turtleneck did was prove once again how badly we need a better center to play in his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Keep drafting kids like Jeremy Gregoire. He won QMJHL Guy Lafleur award of 'excellence' for 2nd straight year and this year gave bursary that comes with it, to the runner up who is going to attend McGill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Poor Plex. Solid.. excellent uber competent quality player who's been just a wonderful Hab for his whole career.. and we want to lynch him. We are such crummy fans. .. as you said IHM.. we could use a number 1 but that doesn't make our indomitable Plex anything but an absolutely excellent centre and Hab. Thanks Plexs for another solid, solid year. You're terrific. We're not. This year was his 11th season as a Hab. This season he had his 2nd most goals and the 3rd best point production he's ever had. Best season since 2010.Ironically, he's not always as bad in the playoffs as he was this season. This was just the perfect season for people on a certain side of the fence to be right. I might be way off on this one but Plek has reminded me of a Brad Richards type for awhile now. Pretty sure Richards is 3rd line center on the Blackhawks, so we all agree where he should fit on the team. That doesn't mean he should be moved though. He's certainly moveable as I have said elsewhere but I highly doubt he does get moved. If he does, we'll definitely be getting an upgrade at C so all will be well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Habs30 I honestly think your wish is going to come true with Plekanec this offseason. His value is high and on an expiring contract. M.B is a cut throat g.m, if the right trade comes along Plek will be traded. I think you are right. MB will make TP is this years Josh Gorges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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