Meller93 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 According to their Hayton pick, Arizona easily could have taken Kotkaniemi if they had the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Hey when MB finally gets fired, our next GM will probably be Dorian. The sad thing is, I can well see it happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The sad thing is, I can well see it happening Beyond sad....and I wouldn't even be surprised either. An owner with a spine and a clue would be nice to end the cycle of stupidity with both GMs and coaches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I'm guessing Lou makes a deal with one of these 1st rounders. He's still in "impress Tavares" mode, and I expect he'll deal for some help now... ... like Pacioretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Thank you. There was absolutely no sense of consensus for Zadina at 3rd for a month before he draft. I think the sens should have taken him, but the fact that he went 6th says at least something. I think Kotkaniemi will turn out to be a Dubois like pick. Not popular at the time, but he turns into a two way 60+ point center for us by 2020. Quite honestly he better be more than a 60 point center. That’s a rather safe assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 So, islander won the draft? So many great players for them to take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Thought the Isles would take two defencemen but don't blame them going after Wahlstrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Damn. Was hoping Dellandrea would drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Ty to Dallas... I'm a huge fan of him. That's a leap but I don't blame them. He was my favourite centre in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Islanders with a horseshoe up their ass being able to pick Wahlstrom and Dobson. Lamoriello licking his chops at resigning JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, Scott462 said: Zadina is dropping like a hot rock. Will and commandant looking good right now. Looks like MB couldn’t work out a deal with Arizona because they would have taken Kotkaniemi. Thanks for the shout out I'm sure Zadina will be a fine player, I just never liked him as the #3 overall to the Habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Bergevin is reportedly trying to move up into the 1st round by putting his earliest 2nd rounders in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Quite honestly he better be more than a 60 point center. My gut feeling is that he won't be....there's this inner voice telling me he will top out as a 'larger Plekanec' productionwise at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Bergevin is reportedly trying to move up into the 1st round by putting his earliest 2nd rounders in play. Good. Some solid players here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, sbhatt said: The results speak for themselves, don't they? The Montreal Canadiens are a cellar dweller with an nearly bare cupboard prospect-wise...I will not 'chill'. No argument from me Peace sbhatt : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habscout Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 After hearing Timmins mention the ACL surgery Kotkaniemi had over a year ago, something makes much more sense now. He had a below average first half of the season, then came on in the second half. Some draft guides/gurus were questioning his skating ability, but that was probably indicative of the after effects of the surgery, since it takes at least 6-12 months for a full recovery. We've all seen pro players go through that surgery and they always play at less than 100% for the last half of that period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, sbhatt said: My gut feeling is that he won't be....there's this inner voice telling me he will top out as a 'larger prime Plekanec' at best. Yeah it's a little underwhelming at #3, you know there are stars on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, sbhatt said: My gut feeling is that he won't be....there's this inner voice telling me he will top out as a 'larger Plekanec' productionwise at best. Plekanec scored 70 points in a season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Bergevin is reportedly trying to move up into the 1st round by putting his earliest 2nd rounders in play. Don't... Just sit and take 2 players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commandant said: Don't... Just sit and take 2 players Ya, of course. ... ... ... but Veleno tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: No argument from me Peace sbhatt : I get it, we’re all going to have different feelings this early on. Kotkaniemi is definitely earlier than expected. But this is a young player in the draft year who just produced against veteran men. I’ll going against sbahtt (respectfully lol) and say I feel really good about the guy. This coming from a guy quite critical of Bergevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Meller93 said: I get it, we’re all going to have different feelings this early on. Kotkaniemi is definitely earlier than expected. But this is a young player in the draft year who just produced against veteran men. I’ll going against sbahtt (respectfully lol) and say I feel really good about the guy. This coming from a guy quite critical of Bergevin. Yeah I really don't know much about him so it makes sense to be positive at this point. The thing is I haven't heard much talk about a crazy high ceiling for this guy. Like are we more excited about him than we were about Sergachev right when he was picked? At #3 you'd think we would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 22 minutes ago, Commandant said: Plekanec scored 70 points in a season. Sorry, let me be more specific: average Plekanec, not 'peak' Plekanec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, habscout said: After hearing Timmins mention the ACL surgery Kotkaniemi had over a year ago, something makes much more sense now. He had a below average first half of the season, then came on in the second half. Some draft guides/gurus were questioning his skating ability, but that was probably indicative of the after effects of the surgery, since it takes at least 6-12 months for a full recovery. We've all seen pro players go through that surgery and they always play at less than 100% for the last half of that period. Is it just me, or is Timmins a sucker for the player who is undervalued due to medical issues? Kostitsyn, Galy, now this. Not a criticism, more of an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Neech said: Yeah I really don't know much about him so it makes sense to be positive at this point. The thing is I haven't heard much talk about a crazy high ceiling for this guy. Like are we more excited about him than we were about Sergachev right when he was picked? At #3 you'd think we would be. I think he has a higher floor. I feel confident he will be at the bottom a top 6 center, that’s why I’m ok. He also has the ability to develop and become the 70 point center we need. Don’t personally feel like he’ll ever approach 80. A not quite Kopitar at peak, a plex type floor (obviously anyone can bust though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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