titanfan Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 My problem with Drouin, even before we traded for him, is that he has yet to prove ANYTHING at this level. Sure he had a good junior career but so did lots of guys (see Angelo Esposito, Alexandre Daigle, there is a long list). Tampa was happy to get rid of him - and they got a real star for him. Then we signed him to a huge contract. Yet he had done NOTHING at this level to prove he deserves it. To be honest, I'd rather have Galchenyuk. Hope I am wrong and he finds a way to get it together but I really don't think that is a realistic expectation. One thing is for sure, he will never live up to the expectations placed on him in Montreal. On the flip side - K-Man looks like he could be the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, titanfan said: My problem with Drouin, even before we traded for him, is that he has yet to prove ANYTHING at this level. Sure he had a good junior career but so did lots of guys (see Angelo Esposito, Alexandre Daigle, there is a long list). Tampa was happy to get rid of him - and they got a real star for him. Then we signed him to a huge contract. Yet he had done NOTHING at this level to prove he deserves it. To be honest, I'd rather have Galchenyuk. Hope I am wrong and he finds a way to get it together but I really don't think that is a realistic expectation. One thing is for sure, he will never live up to the expectations placed on him in Montreal. On the flip side - K-Man looks like he could be the real deal. The Galchenyuk comparison is interesting. Similar players in their tendency to perpetually try to deke out entire teams, with futile results, and in playing decidedly 'soft.' But at least Galy put the puck in the net at impressive clips when on his game. I have yet to see Drouin step up. Is that trade going to go down as yet another epic Habs' disaster? On Kotkaniemi, can we start a nickname? How about 'Special K?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The Galchenyuk comparison is interesting. Similar players in their tendency to perpetually try to deke out entire teams, with futile results, and in playing decidedly 'soft.' But at least Galy put the puck in the net at impressive clips when on his game. I have yet to see Drouin step up. Is that trade going to go down as yet another epic Habs' disaster? On Kotkaniemi, can we start a nickname? How about 'Special K?' This is just a funny one, but me and Dad have been calling him “Coconut Miami” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, Meller93 said: This is just a funny one, but me and Dad have been calling him “Coconut Miami” Ahahaha. Thanks for the morning laugh. I didn't get much sleep and that made me lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, JoeLassister said: He was doing just that in Tampa Bay and MB traded for him anyway. Same with drafting Galchenyuk. Don't know what they expect. He hires coaches that despise fancy plays and East-West hockey and then trade for and draft exactly this type of players. Sorry Joe , I know you're French and I don't mean to be ignorant, but the whole Drouin trade was a P.R stunt. The fan favourite Subban was traded, then Markov was let walk, as was Radulov. Bergevin saw the outrage in fans, so he tried to soften the blow by adding a hometown boy, that could potentially be a hero... None of this is to say that Drouin isn't a great hockey player, it's just to the fact that he's probably more of complimentary piece. Also that we moved a potentially elite d-man, when our defense is probably one of the worst in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The Galchenyuk comparison is interesting. Similar players in their tendency to perpetually try to deke out entire teams, with futile results, and in playing decidedly 'soft.' But at least Galy put the puck in the net at impressive clips when on his game. I have yet to see Drouin step up. Is that trade going to go down as yet another epic Habs' disaster? On Kotkaniemi, can we start a nickname? How about 'Special K?' Kenny would be hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I've had to repeat it before but Tampa originally structured their expansion draft around keeping Drouin. They didn't want to trade him. They didn't know what depth they had at the wing position and how much losing him would hurt. Montreal made the offer, and had been trying to get him for a while, and Yzerman wasn't convinced on Sergachev and was worried he'd be waiting for years for him to be ready. That's why he asked for a 2nd round pick if he didn't play the next season for 40 games. So what might have looked obvious to us wasn't to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The Galchenyuk comparison is interesting. Similar players in their tendency to perpetually try to deke out entire teams, with futile results, and in playing decidedly 'soft.' But at least Galy put the puck in the net at impressive clips when on his game. I have yet to see Drouin step up. Is that trade going to go down as yet another epic Habs' disaster? On Kotkaniemi, can we start a nickname? How about 'Special K?' K-squared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, titanfan said: My problem with Drouin, even before we traded for him, is that he has yet to prove ANYTHING at this level. Sure he had a good junior career but so did lots of guys (see Angelo Esposito, Alexandre Daigle, there is a long list). Tampa was happy to get rid of him - and they got a real star for him. Then we signed him to a huge contract. Yet he had done NOTHING at this level to prove he deserves it. To be honest, I'd rather have Galchenyuk. Hope I am wrong and he finds a way to get it together but I really don't think that is a realistic expectation. One thing is for sure, he will never live up to the expectations placed on him in Montreal. On the flip side - K-Man looks like he could be the real deal. I dont agree with that. Drouin had 2 good seasons with tampa and the analytics were strong. The hadnt proven anything isnt exactly true. I still think he can be a very good player for this team. He looked really good in preseason. Last nights bad game shouldnt be taken as too much of an indication of his season. Last year he scored an assist on the tying goal and the shootout winner in the first game against buffalo and we had a much different view of his first game and the season went the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Habopotamus said: Sorry Joe , I know you're French and I don't mean to be ignorant, but the whole Drouin trade was a P.R stunt. The fan favourite Subban was traded, then Markov was let walk, as was Radulov. Bergevin saw the outrage in fans, so he tried to soften the blow by adding a hometown boy, that could potentially be a hero... None of this is to say that Drouin isn't a great hockey player, it's just to the fact that he's probably more of complimentary piece. Also that we moved a potentially elite d-man, when our defense is probably one of the worst in the league. I don't take offense at all, mainly because I believe this as well. I always thought (and still think) that the Drouin trade was a crowd pleaser move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 15 hours ago, BCHabnut said: Toronto get 3 stars? Haha. You should know by now that the 3 Stars are entirely irrelevant around the league and really shouldn't be paid attention to*. * - The exception to this rule is the HW Habs 3 Stars that appear as part of the postgame article. Those should be read at all times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 KOMODO (dragon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 You just know the locker will be lazy and call him Koates. If I had a vote it'd be Koko Pops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Koko is a possibility, but - I can 99% gurantee that his nickname will actually end up being 'Jazzy.' And y'know, that's a rare case where the dreary NHL habit of adding a '-y' to a guy's name actually produces an acceptable nickname. But I still mourn the days of Cucumbers, Rockets, Suitcases, and Red Lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/delmar-postgame-show-finding-a-nickname-for-kotkaniemi-1.1181559 Delmar PostGame Show : Finding a nickname for Kotkaniemi It is not about the 5-3 loss to the Maple Leafs at the Bell Center. No, it is all about finding a nickname for the 18 year old third overall pick Jesperi Kotkaniemi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habiman Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Gutsy call sitting Plex and Alzner last night....and I think the team has bought the concept of skating hard to earn your ice....the forwards all looked good to me, especially Domi and KoKo....on D, Reilly looked really good -- quick feet and moving the puck...Petry was having problems settling in on the pp. couple long shots with no one near the net and another from the goal line that sailed all the way around and let the worn out leafs change out. He's gotta be smarter and not force it so much....Juulsen and Mete played really well! third line pairing is a problem that needs to get fixed asap! and, Alzner is not the answer...If they can work that hard consistently, it will be a fun year (even if they don't come out on top every night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think people are doing the typical Hab fan thing in the case of Drouin, overreacting to a bad night, like any player doesn't have those, or like he didn't have any off nights last year. Let me see him perform with no drive, and lack of commitment to the team game for a handful of games in a row, and then maybe i'll think Houston we got a problem. Otherwise it's just a bad day in the office you just gotta flush down and move forward from by coming back better and stronger next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Chips said: https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/delmar-postgame-show-finding-a-nickname-for-kotkaniemi-1.1181559 Delmar PostGame Show : Finding a nickname for Kotkaniemi It is not about the 5-3 loss to the Maple Leafs at the Bell Center. No, it is all about finding a nickname for the 18 year old third overall pick Jesperi Kotkaniemi. I like mellers name coconut Miami. I've seen kk a couple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 If Koko is a possibility so's Koka. We could call him Kokehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 His nickname in Finland was "Jeppy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, Trizzak said: His nickname in Finland was "Jeppy" I don't think that one's catching on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: You just know the locker will be lazy and call him Koates. If I had a vote it'd be Koko Pops. They named him K-K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 14 hours ago, Commandant said: They named him K-K Tol close to 'Caca' for my liking. Then again, Quebec's governing party is now 'CACKA' so I guess the sound resonates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Its caq isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: Its caq isn't it? Yes, yes, CAQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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