GHT120 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: No question we are rolling the dice with KK and Evans at 2C and 3C but sometimes you need to take a chance. Especially when you have no choice but to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 let KK walk for his 6 milly and i still dont want Chucky on the Team... why is that? I liked Chucky as winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 29, 2021 Author Share Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, ehjay said: let KK walk for his 6 milly and i still dont want Chucky on the Team... why is that? I liked Chucky as winger Ha Ha Ha good point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 No!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: No!!!!! LOL you've been hears/read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 I think these names have been discussed before, but posting here after Kotkaniemi's offer sheet for reference. top 10 PPG UFA centres still available, in case MB decides to let KK go and takes the picks: (Evolving Hockey, contract projections) 1. Tyler Bozak, 35yr TOI 14:54 1 year $1.268M 2. Artem Anisimov 33yr TOI 12:01 1 year $0.9873M3. Travis Zajac 36yr 4. Carter Rowney 32yr TOI 14:16 2 years $$1.038M 5. Tyler Ennis 31yr TOI 12:07 1 year $0.9873M6. David Backes 37yr 7. Casey Cizikas 30yr TOI 13:50 3 years $2.310M8. Eric Staal 36yr9. Brad Richardson 36yr10. Frans Nielsen 37yr =========================== I would go hard for Cizikas and offer $3M/3years (KK's salary) and take the picks from Carolina. If we keep Kotkaniemi at $6M/year, the Habs would be over the cap right a way and even more so when Byron returns. No cap room to add to the team during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyhasbeen Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 No. Eichel is available. We have Carolinas first and our first, add a piece and get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: I would go hard for Cizikas and offer $3M/3years (KK's salary) and take the picks from Carolina. If we keep Kotkaniemi at $6M/year, the Habs would be over the cap right a way and even more so when Byron returns. No cap room to add to the team during the season. Cizikas' deal with the Islanders is done, just not announced yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: I think these names have been discussed before, but posting here after Kotkaniemi's offer sheet for reference. top 10 PPG UFA centres still available, in case MB decides to let KK go and takes the picks: (Evolving Hockey, contract projections) 1. Tyler Bozak, 35yr TOI 14:54 1 year $1.268M 2. Artem Anisimov 33yr TOI 12:01 1 year $0.9873M3. Travis Zajac 36yr 4. Carter Rowney 32yr TOI 14:16 2 years $$1.038M 5. Tyler Ennis 31yr TOI 12:07 1 year $0.9873M6. David Backes 37yr 7. Casey Cizikas 30yr TOI 13:50 3 years $2.310M8. Eric Staal 36yr9. Brad Richardson 36yr10. Frans Nielsen 37yr =========================== I would go hard for Cizikas and offer $3M/3years (KK's salary) and take the picks from Carolina. If we keep Kotkaniemi at $6M/year, the Habs would be over the cap right a way and even more so when Byron returns. No cap room to add to the team during the season. Cizikas is a 30 yr-old, 12 minute per game 5-on-05 centre ... a 3C at best ... and rumoured to have already "signed" with the Islanders, but the contract is not yet registered for some crazy wizard motive by Lou ... he is maybe a replacement for last season KK, but not "hoped for" KK ... don't know if I would go for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, johnnyhasbeen said: No. Eichel is available. We have Carolinas first and our first, add a piece and get it done. Do that in a second ... but likely also requires our first and third and at least one legit, high-end prospect ... probably two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Do that in a second ... but likely also requires our first and third and at least one legit, high-end prospect ... probably two. Which is fine, but still doesnt help you fill KK or 3rd centre holes this year. And would be mailing in 21-22 season and giving away your two 1st round picks, with draft in Montreal (if Habs looking to drum up some good PR)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, DON said: Which is fine, but still doesnt help you fill KK or 3rd centre holes this year. And would be mailing in 21-22 season and giving away your two 1st round picks, with draft in Montreal (if Habs looking to drum up some good PR)? Agree ... I was less advocating and more offering an opinion of what it would take ... not certain it would "mail-in 21-22" if they allow Eichel to have his preferred surgery (estimated 8 week /2 month recovery) ... just because it has never been done on a NHL player doesn't mean it is the wrong option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: Cizikas is a 30 yr-old, 12 minute per game 5-on-05 centre ... a 3C at best ... and rumoured to have already "signed" with the Islanders, but the contract is not yet registered for some crazy wizard motive by Lou ... he is maybe a replacement for last season KK, but not "hoped for" KK ... don't know if I would go for three years. If you think three years is bad, wait until you see how long the deal winds up being. The number I've seen tossed around is 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: If you think three years is bad, wait until you see how long the deal winds up being. The number I've seen tossed around is 6 years. 😲 Guess it depends on the AAV ... 6yrs@$1.125M wouldn't be horrible in cap terms ... but I know it won't be that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 hours ago, GHT120 said: Guess it depends on the AAV ... 6yrs@$1.125M wouldn't be horrible in cap terms ... but I know it won't be that. I forget if it's $2.5M or $2.75M but I think it's somewhere in that range. Of course, with all of these agreed in principle only, things can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 to close this thread, I would like to add that I would PTO Chucky to training camp this year and offer him a two-way deal if he proves he can play 3C at the NHL level. I liked how much energy he showed in his AHL games against Laval and his NHL games against Montreal. He is not washed up yet, and may be worth a try for nostalgia's sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: to close this thread, I would like to add that I would PTO Chucky to training camp this year and offer him a two-way deal if he proves he can play 3C at the NHL level. I liked how much energy he showed in his AHL games against Laval and his NHL games against Montreal. He is not washed up yet, and may be worth a try for nostalgia's sake And he has proven he can set up Caufield and Suzuki ... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 If there is one player I am not nostalgic about, it's him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The question is now moot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Not yet, Its just a PTO, we could still sign him out from under the Coyotes noses if we offered an NHL contract (1-way or 2-way)... anyone could do this with Goloubef to us too. PTOs are no commitment from the team other than a spot in training camp. They are also no commitment from the player in that if a real contract shows up they can sign it. Someone did this with the Flames/Oilers a few years back, was on a PTO with one team and they wanted to sign him at the end of camp and he jumped to the rival. Can't remember who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Not yet, Its just a PTO, we could still sign him out from under the Coyotes noses if we offered an NHL contract (1-way or 2-way)... anyone could do this with Goloubef to us too. PTOs are no commitment from the team other than a spot in training camp. They are also no commitment from the player in that if a real contract shows up they can sign it. Someone did this with the Flames/Oilers a few years back, was on a PTO with one team and they wanted to sign him at the end of camp and he jumped to the rival. Can't remember who. a french speaking defenseman did this to the Habs in recent memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: a french speaking defenseman did this to the Habs in recent memory Are you thinking of Simon Despres? He had the PTO with the Habs, then took a PTO to practice with Laval, eventually signed with them and then basically used them as an avenue to go somewhere else. He played a handful of games and then eventually went to Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Are you thinking of Simon Despres? He had the PTO with the Habs, then took a PTO to practice with Laval, eventually signed with them and then basically used them as an avenue to go somewhere else. He played a handful of games and then eventually went to Germany. yeah, that is whom I was thinking of. thanks Brian! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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