alfredoh2009 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, dlbalr said: This just keeps getting worse... [...] From nine healthy d-men to six in the matter of about 28 hours. Knowing that Bowey and Barron were both hurt, why in the world did they trade Green now? Why not wait until the others are healthy? isn't this like three AHL trades for future considerations? this is my criticism of Hugh-Gort that I think is really warranted: I do not like how Laval roster decisions have been made all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: isn't this like three AHL trades for future considerations? Possibly because that is all the players are worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: isn't this like three AHL trades for future considerations? this is my criticism of Hugh-Gort that I think is really warranted: I do not like how Laval roster decisions have been made all season. It's not all that often that AHL players are moved in player for player swaps. They happen from time to time but more often than not, it's future considerations coming the other way as one team grants a players' wish to move somewhere with an opportunity for more playing time. Teams often make those moves to fill a specific hole and don't necessarily have surplus depth at another position that they can move. The old management team made one of these last season, handing Jake Lucchini to Belleville for nothing. Lucchini went on to lead the Sens in scoring (or at least had the lead for most of the year). I agree that it feels like Laval has been left for dead to an extent with some decisions that don't make a ton of sense. It's clearly not a focus for them this season as most of their top prospects are playing elsewhere. Honestly, this feels like a situation where they're going to just roll with what they have this season and then bring in a new coaching staff that's a younger group and shift more towards development with what should be a much less experienced roster next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Richard had big game. 1g 3a Simoneau 2a Ylonen 1g1a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 With Poulin having a rough night yesterday, I wonder if we'll see Vrbetic make his AHL debut tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 10 hours ago, dlbalr said: With Poulin having a rough night yesterday, I wonder if we'll see Vrbetic make his AHL debut tonight. And the answer is...nope. Meanwhile, with Mysak and Martel both injured, Barron is returning at less than 100% to allow them to dress a full lineup. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) deleting, wrong thread Edited December 5, 2022 by alfredoh2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 December 9, 2022 Defenseman Justin Barron (lower body) is day-to-day. Forward Nate Schnarr (lower body) will return to play after Christmas. Goaltender Cayden Primeau and forward Danick Martel are still not practicing with the team. Forward Jan Mysak and defender Madison Bowey will have further evaluation with team medical personnel over the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Does this speak to Primeau's injury (i.e., how long Vrbetic will be with the Rocket)? Or just a disposable band-aid? Or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 With Vrbetic up, Trois-Rivieres needed a second goalie. That's all I think that signing probably is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I always enjoy reading what Anthony Marcotte has to say about the Rocket. He is pointing out here the lack of defensive Ds in Laval, and the great season Richard is having: Ma chronique de la semaine sur le site web du Rocket. https://t.co/50iyOJmxbt — Anthony Marcotte (@anthonymarcotte) December 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: I always enjoy reading what Anthony Marcotte has to say about the Rocket. He is pointing out here the lack of defensive Ds in Laval, and the great season Richard is having: I suspect that's by design. This management group is more about wanting mobility and offensive skills from their defencemen so that's what they opted to add instead of keeping more reliable defensive defenders like Belpedio and Paquette-Bisson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 15 hours ago, dlbalr said: I suspect that's by design. This management group is more about wanting mobility and offensive skills from their defencemen so that's what they opted to add instead of keeping more reliable defensive defenders like Belpedio and Paquette-Bisson. the article was referring to injuries and the type of Ds in Laval that seem to be mobile offensive-minded but not reliable on the defensive zone. It did not mention the off season or management decisions. I believe that management thought too highly of Bowey and Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: I believe that management thought too highly of Bowey and Green Are you sure about Green or did you mean someone else? Green only played five games and actually is a bit more of a defensive defenceman. By the way, Laval played in Utica and won last night with Anthony Richard having a four-point game. At some point, they have to call him up already. https://theahl.com/stats/game-center/1024252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Are you sure about Green or did you mean someone else? Green only played five games and actually is a bit more of a defensive defenceman. By the way, Laval played in Utica and won last night with Anthony Richard having a four-point game. At some point, they have to call him up already. https://theahl.com/stats/game-center/1024252 yes Green, if I remember correctly this summer he was hailed as an experiences AHL D expected to be a regular in Laval. that is why I assume the professional scouting on them was overly optimistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Green and Bowey are just place holders though. The AHL is primarily about development, not winning games. You have a bunch of young defencemen in the system. Better to let them play big minutes and learn, than say bring in a 26 or 27 year old career AHLer who is going to play 25 minutes a game. If you take some losses along the way. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 5 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: yes Green, if I remember correctly this summer he was hailed as an experiences AHL D expected to be a regular in Laval. that is why I assume the professional scouting on them was overly optimistic I don't think anyone was calling him experienced considering he had played all of 99 career AHL games before this season. He wasn't supposed to be a regular in Laval. He was a depth guy who had the exact role he was supposed to have. Granted, they weren't expecting to be trading for Nicolas Beaudin in-season which pushed him a rung lower on the depth chart than expected. Eventually, they did him a favour and traded him (where he got hurt in his first game with Chicago). In the end, a depth defenceman that was signed to be a depth defenceman and had the role of a depth defenceman is somehow a scouting failure? I'm not seeing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 6 hours ago, dlbalr said: I don't think anyone was calling him experienced considering he had played all of 99 career AHL games before this season. He wasn't supposed to be a regular in Laval. He was a depth guy who had the exact role he was supposed to have. Granted, they weren't expecting to be trading for Nicolas Beaudin in-season which pushed him a rung lower on the depth chart than expected. Eventually, they did him a favour and traded him (where he got hurt in his first game with Chicago). In the end, a depth defenceman that was signed to be a depth defenceman and had the role of a depth defenceman is somehow a scouting failure? I'm not seeing that. ok, point taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Just good to see Barron back playing again. Wonder how Simoneau is doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 up 4-3 mid 2nd period https://theahl.com/stats/game-center/1024269 GO Barron! SCORING 1st 3:34 Jesse Ylönen (7) Rafaël Harvey-Pinard (8), Brandon Gignac (11) 4:28 Emil Bemstrom (11) David Jiricek (10), Trey Fix-Wolansky (15) (PP) 5:29 Pierrick Dubé (2) Justin Barron (7) 19:05 Justin Barron (7) Nicolas Beaudin (8), Brandon Gignac (12) 2nd 0:16 Brandon Davidson (1) Emil Bemstrom (13), Brendan Gaunce (9) 3:04 Emil Bemstrom (12) David Jiricek (11), Trey Fix-Wolansky (16) (PP) 5:01 Mitchell Stephens (3) Peter Abbandonato (11), Justin Barron (8) (PP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Things went downhill in a hurry as Cleveland won 7-4. They're back at it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alfredoh2009 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 just saw the result, seems like Barron had a good game if you look at the scoresheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DON Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 A win . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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