WJC 2024 discussion thread

[alfredoh2009]

aww!  🥰 some love 💌 for Beck 😍 , my day is brighter

 

 

Owen Beck went from being the last cut from last year's Team Canada selection camp to being a candidate to be captain for the upcoming world juniors in Sweden. @EricEngels checks in with how the Montreal Canadiens prospect is feeling about it all. https://t.co/z3OkD7IQg3

— Sportsnet (@Sportsnet) December 12, 2023

 

[DON]

I think USA is favoured to win gold.

 

[DON]

Fowler also made USA team

Lane Hutson, Jacob Fowler make USA’s World Juniors roster (habseyesontheprize.com)

 

Xhekaj 1a 5 shots (11g 25pts 28 games), the "Unicorn" has matched last years point total in 40 fewer games. 

With just 2 minor penalties in last 14 games.

 

Bogdan played 2 short games yesterday;

Kazakhstan 2 Russia 25 Team 5 (Final) - 3x3 Liga Stavok Channel One Cup (21 mins game) (Saint-Petersburg, Russia) - Watch online

Yevgeni Volokhin - didn't play
Bogdan Konyushkov - two assists

Stars and VHL Team 2 Russia 25 Team 4 (Final) - 3x3 Liga Stavok Channel One Cup Final (21 mins game) (Saint-Petersburg, Russia) - Watch online

Yevgeni Volokhin - didn't play
Bogdan Konyushkov - one goal (1)

Habs Prospects

 

I think we can write off Smilanic as a good pick up by Hughes, he has all of 1g 6pts in 24 ECHL games. 

 

[DON]

3 hours ago, tomh009 said:

Exactly. Swinging for the fences, this time it didn't work out.

Chiarot for Newhook though, i will take that.

 

I can see why this team is favoured, lots of quality kids listed.

(Cole Eiserman didnt make he cut)

[DON]

Exhibition games start tomorrow;

 

All games are at Eastern time

December 19 games

Finland U20 vs Slovakia U20 12:30 pm - Exhibition Game (Halmstad, Sweden)

Filip Mešár -

Denmark U25 vs Canada U20 1:30 pm - Exhibition Game (Malmö, Sweden)

Owen Beck -

https://habsprospects.com/

[DON]

Mesar/Beck 0pts in 1st warm up games

 

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

I never thought I’d see another player with the last name of BONK but there it is.

[Helmethead]

4 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

I never thought I’d see another player with the last name of BONK but there it is.

 

Le fils...

[GHT120]

35 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

I never thought I’d see another player with the last name of BONK but there it is.

 

30 minutes ago, Helmethead said:

Le fils...

 

Drafted 22nd overall by Philadelphia last June.

[The Chicoutimi Cucumber]

32 minutes ago, Helmethead said:

 

Le fils...

 

Good to know, thanks.

 

Amazing how many NHLers’ kids make it to the NHL, or at least have successful pro careers.

[DON]

15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

Amazing how many NHLers’ kids make it to the NHL, or at least have successful pro careers.

23. Tij Iginla, C, Kelowna Rockets (WHL): Meteoric rise up the rankings continues for Jarome's son. Possesses many of the same traits that made his dad a Hall of Famer. 

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

 

Good to know, thanks.

 

Amazing how many NHLers’ kids make it to the NHL, or at least have successful pro careers.

 

Genetics plays a huge role in who can become the best of the best and become a pro athlete.  Add to that the fact the parents know what it takes to make it and can pass on the lessons learned, and also have the money to pay for the best coaches, nutrition, etc... and its easy to see why.

[tomh009]

30 minutes ago, Commandant said:

Genetics plays a huge role in who can become the best of the best and become a pro athlete.  Add to that the fact the parents know what it takes to make it and can pass on the lessons learned, and also have the money to pay for the best coaches, nutrition, etc... and its easy to see why.

Quite true. And yet many crash and burn, genetics are no guarantee as there are two parents. Gretzky, Bourque, Lemieux, Roy, Chelios, Messier and many more.

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

4 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

Quite true. And yet many crash and burn, genetics are no guarantee as there are two parents. Gretzky, Bourque, Lemieux, Roy, Chelios, Messier and many more.

 

It's certainly no guarantee, but the % that make it with an NHL parent is certainly much higher than the normal population. 

[tomh009]

27 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

It's certainly no guarantee, but the % that make it with an NHL parent is certainly much higher than the normal population. 

Fully agree, for the reasons Commandant outlined, they significantly improve the probabilities--but it's far from a guarantee, even for the kids of generational players.

[Commandant]

44 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

Quite true. And yet many crash and burn, genetics are no guarantee as there are two parents. Gretzky, Bourque, Lemieux, Roy, Chelios, Messier and many more.

 

Nothing is 100%... but compared to the average person, the sons and daughters of pro athletes become pro athletes at a far, far higher rate.

 

Edit: i see you discussed this.

[DON]

Hutson 1a USA vs Sweden

(Warm up game; USA vs Canada on Saturday, NHL network)

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[tomh009]

The Athletic's Corey Pronman published his list of top 25 prospects at the world juniors. His top ten:

 

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Will Smith (SJS)
3. Cutter Gauthier (PHI)
4. Gabe Perreault (NYR)
5. Konsta Helenius
6. Jiri Kulich (BUF)
7. Ryan Leonard (WSH)
8. Lane Hutson (MTL)
9. Jimmy Snuggerud (STL)
10. Axel Sandin Pellikka (DET)

 

Celebrini and Helenius are the only draft-eligibles in the top ten. Neither Mesar or Beck fit into Pronman's top 25 ranking.

[Commandant]

 

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

4 hours ago, tomh009 said:

The Athletic's Corey Pronman published his list of top 25 prospects at the world juniors. His top ten:

 

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Will Smith (SJS)
3. Cutter Gauthier (PHI)
4. Gabe Perreault (NYR)
5. Konsta Helenius
6. Jiri Kulich (BUF)
7. Ryan Leonard (WSH)
8. Lane Hutson (MTL)
9. Jimmy Snuggerud (STL)
10. Axel Sandin Pellikka (DET)

 

Celebrini and Helenius are the only draft-eligibles in the top ten. Neither Mesar or Beck fit into Pronman's top 25 ranking.

 

Did Reinbacher make the list?

[Habs Fan in Edmonton]

19 minutes ago, Commandant said:

 

 

That was beauty goal by Beck. I think he will be the perfect 3rd line center for the Habs. He does so many of the little things well. I know there are others on this board who really like him. 

[tomh009]

20 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Did Reinbacher make the list?

He did not.

EDIT: I completely forgot that he's Austrian, not Swiss, and Austria is not at the top level WJC.

[Commandant]

1 hour ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:

 

Did Reinbacher make the list?

 

Hes not in the tournament as Austria didnt qualify 

[DON]

 

U.S. Rallies for 5-3 Win Over Sweden in World Juniors Tune-Up (usahockey.com)

 

Game Summary | World Junior Championship - 2024 IIHF World Junior Championship - Canada - Switzerland (hockeycanada.ca)

 

Canadiens' Martin St. Louis had big impact while coaching youth hockey | Montreal Gazette

 

2024 World Juniors: Team USA preview & roster (habseyesontheprize.com)

 

Lane Hutson and Jacob Fowler hope Gothenburg will be golden - Habs Eyes on the Prize

 

 

[DON]

Well USA vs Canada duel it out in 10-15 minutes.

How will the 3 Hab kids do vs each other, will Beck run Hutson and go top corner on Fowler?