GHT120 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 28 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: Robinson was a key player to show the Flyers we weren't going to intimidated. But we were the better team. We won that series 4-0. We lost one GAME during the entire playoffs. Philly's lineup simply didn't stack up against ours. Different era Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 31 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Really, was that comment necessary? Agreed ... the last line was unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 40 minutes ago, DON said: It was a clean hard hit on Guhle. He put himself in bad spot AGAIN and didnt have his head up. He said he worked on self-preservation in off-season but not sure it sunk in. So, nobody 'should' of had to do anything. And cant a hard hit be made by anyone without everyone freaking out and demanding retribution. I see guys standing face first to boards playing with puck, simply asking to be hurt. "Back in the Day" those guys would get creamed every time and learn not to do that again or they will get crushed over and over. Both Barron & Guhle need some kind of wake up call, or will spend alot of time on IR? I only saw a quick replay of hit… but then saw the reaction. Which I thought was great. Agree guys need to keep their heads up. BUT…. It’s been happening for years that even a clean hit with any level of viciousness is being retaliated on. I’m not saying I like it or it’s correct, but even clean hard hits are drawing a retaliatory response. Rightly or wrongly, it’s very prevalent. I don’t make the unwritten rules. Players don’t want teammates getting hurt… or even just embarrassed sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterface Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Seriously??? You think Anderson fighting Wilson is going to be a deterrent for a team running Hutson or Guhle in the future??? If you really believe I think you are on crack. I love crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 25 minutes ago, Butterface said: I love crack. Explains a lot😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Imagine bragging that you "think" the same way Don Cherry does. I put the quotation marks there for a reason. At least Cherry was a minor league tough guy for years, we can see that CTE is probably what is rotting his brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, TurdBurglar said: That awareness also comes from teammates. Nooo, do you see Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovski, Matheson, Savard... getting rocked... No. Each player has to keep head up and be smart. Bedard extending reach for puck last year and ending up with broken jaw, was likely a lesson learned, but Guhle 'seems' isnt learning and has been smoked a good 10-15? times now, 2 concussions is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 2 hours ago, DON said: Nooo, do you see Suzuki, Caufield, Slafkovski, Matheson, Savard... getting rocked... No. Each player has to keep head up and be smart. Bedard extending reach for puck last year and ending up with broken jaw, was likely a lesson learned, but Guhle 'seems' isnt learning and has been smoked a good 10-15? times now, 2 concussions is it? I think its both. Communication from teammates that someone is about to smoke you is important. But Guhle has to be more aware too. That's the bigger factor. In fact i'd say its like 20% on everyone else and 80% on Guhle if you wanted percentages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Was it just me, or did Matheson not look very pleased, to be sitting on bench during 5 on 3. Again, not like the 5-on-3 dosent not a big change up, but being sat for a lil rookie when you have 9pts in 10games and coming off a nice 62pt season, gotta suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 42 minutes ago, DON said: Was it just me, or did Matheson not look very pleased, to be sitting on bench during 5 on 3. Again, not like the 5-on-3 dosent not a big change up, but being sat for a lil rookie when you have 9pts in 10games and coming off a nice 62pt season, gotta suck. I think we should try both Matheson and Hutson. Hutson looked good playing the low bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, DON said: Was it just me, or did Matheson not look very pleased, to be sitting on bench during 5 on 3. Again, not like the 5-on-3 dosent not a big change up, but being sat for a lil rookie when you have 9pts in 10games and coming off a nice 62pt season, gotta suck. Given the "bag skate" yesterday, I wonder if the alignment on that 5-on-3 was not being pleased with the teams' play and trying to send a message "in game". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 27 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Given the "bag skate" yesterday, I wonder if the alignment on that 5-on-3 was not being pleased with the teams' play and trying to send a message "in game". How does having friggin Dvorak out send a message to the team? Hey play like crap and you will be rewarded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: Given the "bag skate" yesterday, I wonder if the alignment on that 5-on-3 was not being pleased with the teams' play and trying to send a message "in game". The one guy I felt bad for about the bag skate was Anderson, LOL. He has his best game of the year, beats up Tom Wilson no less, and his reward - BAG SKATE!!! Ugh. Anyway, MSL has talked about coaching “harder” this season and this makes perfect sense. This team does need to move from the mindset that everyone loves them because some hypothetical future is bright, to understanding that we only love you if you deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted November 2 Author Share Posted November 2 1 minute ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The one guy I felt bad for about the bag skate was Anderson, LOL. He has his best game of the year, beats up Tom Wilson no less, and his reward - BAG SKATE!!! Ugh. Anyway, MSL has talked about coaching “harder” this season and this makes perfect sense. This team does need to move from the mindset that everyone loves them because some hypothetical future is bright, to understanding that we only love you if you deliver. Gorton, Hughes, St. Louis know very well that the fans are grumbling and that expectations are increasing. That pressure is only going to grow. I know that HuGo won’t make a panic move and I’m thankful for that. I'm starting to move my expectations a year forward. I think the Reinbacher and Dach injuries set the rebuild back by a year. Guhle constantly injured doesn’t help either At least that is where my thinking is leaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Just now, Prime Minister Koivu said: Gorton, Hughes, St. Louis know very well that the fans are grumbling and that expectations are increasing. That pressure is only going to grow. I don't think it's just the fans--St-Louis is, and always has been, driven, and he wants to see progress, and eventually more wins. Yes, it's a young team, but he expects the players to remember their lessons for more than one or two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 7 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The one guy I felt bad for about the bag skate was Anderson, LOL. He has his best game of the year, beats up Tom Wilson no less, and his reward - BAG SKATE!!! Ugh. Anyway, MSL has talked about coaching “harder” this season and this makes perfect sense. This team does need to move from the mindset that everyone loves them because some hypothetical future is bright, to understanding that we only love you if you deliver. There is no doubt that expectations are higher for the Habs this year and MSL is likely feeling a little more pressure. For the first time since he has been here I am starting to question (just a little) whether he is the right fit as it seems like players are not buying in. It is still early though, more time is needed. A weak effort tonight would not be a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 1 minute ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Gorton, Hughes, St. Louis know very well that the fans are grumbling and that expectations are increasing. That pressure is only going to grow. I know that HuGo won’t make a panic move and I’m thankful for that. I'm starting to move my expectations a year forward. I think the Reinbacher and Dach injuries set the rebuild back by a year. Guhle constantly injured doesn’t help either At least that is where my thinking is leaning. They need to work with Guhle on his situational awareness. He should try what Slafkovsky did last year. i hated the Dach trade at the time we made it because of the injury history. But seeing him when he was healthy and starting to perform in his first year, and how he controlled play in the 1 1/2 game he played last year, I thought we finally got our big centre, and like the gamble despite his previous injury history. But he has to stay healthy and needs to start producing by January. Right now he is making poor decisions and is standing around too much - to me that is more lack of confidence, than not having fully recovered. Recovery is going to take time, but he has to start playing with more confidence and be more assertive than he has been. That's why I think playing him 5 to 10 games with Suzuki and Caufield would probably be good to get his confidence up. Newhook also is a concern. Just looks lost and have not seen he speed or skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 5 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: There is no doubt that expectations are higher for the Habs this year and MSL is likely feeling a little more pressure. For the first time since he has been here I am starting to question (just a little) whether he is the right fit as it seems like players are not buying in. It is still early though, more time is needed. A weak effort tonight would not be a good sign. I think he needs a more experienced staff to help him with in game and tactical adjustments. The coach in Laval has far more coaching experience than the staff in Montreal combined! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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