bombTHEice Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Just read an article where Didi Mateschitz (boss of the Austrian company Red Bull) says that he wants to bring the NHL back to Quebec. Red Bull is doing tons of sports marketing ... Formula 1 (Red Bull & Torro Rosso), soccer (Red Bulls Salzburg, New York), ice hockey (Red Bulls Salzburg), skiing, etc... He surely has the money to bring NHL back to Quebec - maybe there will be soon a new francophone rivalry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 That sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 (edited) i dont think bettman is in the mood to sanction that move. It's also a silly team name. That being said, I wouldn't be against it. However, what would a 2nd franco team do to mtl profits? I imagine in many people's eyes the canadiens would become the maroons... which actually might make the team easier to play on. Edited July 20, 2006 by simonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 For this to happen another team must pickup and move to Quebec! The League has said very clearly, they have no intensions of adding any more teams in the near future. I for one would like to see more hockey north of the border. Quebec, Hamilton, Winnipeg are all prime targets for an NHL team. With population density on the rise in the Southern Ontario region specially around Hamilton this should be a hot bed for future expansion. And anyone who says it will cut into the Toronto market and Buffalo space is not living in the area and has no idea of the passion that is alive and well; Most of the tickets sold in Toronto go to coporate accounts, only a handful for us fans. There is more than enough cash floating for a very strong fan base in Hamilton. Yes,the bulldogs live in Hamilton but they could find a home closer to Montreal. Buffalo gets a large amount of cross border traffic but that does not mean hamilton will reduce their base. Having said that I agree Quebec deserves the next team hands down! We need to re-establish the Quebec rivalry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 The rumors are that Pittsburgh would be the franchise transfered to Quebec. Crosby in the Habs' backyard, how about that? There's one major problem though: the arena. Quebec's Colisée was already obsolete 10 years ago; and it had little if no improvement at all since then. Winnipeg had a new arena, meanwhile Quebec is still stuck with that old, worn-out piece of crap. So before any of this becomes serious, Quebec must get a new arena. Unless Bettman and the Board of Governors agree to have the team play in a shitty arena for one or two seasons while the new one is getting built. That's always a possibility, albeit one with low odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 i dont think bettman is in the mood to sanction that move. It's also a silly team name. That being said, I wouldn't be against it. However, what would a 2nd franco team do to mtl profits? I don't see it like a a second francophone team but a second quebec province team. I would love to see a team in quebec city..It would become a great rivalry. i don't think it would make steal alot of profit in montreal since there's still alot of people who hate the habs with passion. however, quebec needs a new rink and help from different government. quebec has a mayoress that hates sports with a passion..she didn't give her support for the olympic games in 2002. besides, a hockey team needs to fill their luxury boxes in order to make profit and I don't think that quebec has enough support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yes! My prayers are being answered! All Quebec needs to do now is build a new arena. I've been saying all along that Hamilton deserves to be mentioned as a place for a team to move to besides Winnipeg and Quebec. Now, get the panthers, islanders and penguins to move into Winnipeg, Hamilton and Quebec and we're all set with diversity between canadian teams vs. american teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigRedC Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Yes! My prayers are being answered! All Quebec needs to do now is build a new arena. I've been saying all along that Hamilton deserves to be mentioned as a place for a team to move to besides Winnipeg and Quebec. Now, get the panthers, islanders and penguins to move into Winnipeg, Hamilton and Quebec and we're all set with diversity between canadian teams vs. american teams. The Islanders are not going anywhere. After their dynasy in the 80's and four championships, they won't be moved. Besided, I really don't want a team in one of those citites run by Charles Wang (See left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 the problem with hamilton is that they're stuck in between toronto and buffalo I know that a new team has to be outside a certain perimiter or they have to pay a great amount in royalties in order to get in the league...now they have to deal with two teams...sucks to be hamilton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I have a quick question. Supposing a team IS moved to Quebec, would it remain in it's old division? Or would it join the North-East? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigRedC Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I have a quick question. Supposing a team IS moved to Quebec, would it remain in it's old division? Or would it join the North-East? Probably depends where it comes from. If it were to come from Pittsburg (Atlantic), it would probably join the North-West and a team like Boston would be moved to the Atlantic division. I am pretty sure they moved Toronto from the Western confrence to the Eastern confrence a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beliveau1 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 The chances of a team being relocated to Quebec are nil to zero...... The NHL has repeatedly frowned on adding small market teams to Canadian markets and have no intention of doing so again. They continuously talk about US markets, regardless of their viability or size, but hold any similar Canadian market in absolute disdain..... and with no plans of expansion the chances of that happening are even slimmer. And many would argue that Winnipeg would probably be in line to get higher consideration than Quebec City? However the fact is, neither one is a substantial candidate that is on the radar for any team that will be moved! As a Habs fan the last thing I want is to see Quebec back in the loop - the Habs are already verging on small market status, as they are a somewhat localized market. The reality is that most of their appeal and revenue is found in their home province. So while they are not officially small market they do have restrictions regarding revenue and unfortunately fan appeal. Last thing they need is another team cutting in on their territory, especially given the financial climate for NHL teams. If a team does come - the meaner side of me says who better than the Islanders as they'd be no threat whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 NHL doesn't look at viable Canadian cities because Bettman hates Canada. The loonie is at all time highs. With the CBA small teams can win. I swear if I see a team move to KC or Salt Lake City I'm going to explode. KC is the worst sports town in the history of mankind. Worse then pathetic Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCeh Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 If NHL continues to expand in the fashion attributed to Gary Bettman, we'll see a team in Jackson, Mississippi before Québec city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I figure Oklahoma city is probably a favourite for a team. Maybe portland... I might be a bit nutty (and I dont see it happening soon), but I think Las Vegas would be a great place for a team. I dont think Bettman hates Canada. I think he is a businessman and believes (with some reason) that hockey is healthy in canada and that it is not in the US. Moving teams out of the US is not the best way to strengthen the game here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I've always thought that Portland would be next in line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 If NHL continues to expand in the fashion attributed to Gary Bettman, we'll see a team in Jackson, Mississippi before Québec city. I think that they know that in Québec it would be almost always almost full. CDN$ also is closer to US$ IF a team moves, it HAS to be and will be to Canada. I might be naive, but I think Gary Bettman finally understood the importance of Hockey in Canada and the importance of Canada to the Survival of Hockey. However, will it be Québec, will it be Hamilton or will it be Winnipeg. My guess is that Hamilton is 3rd and that Winnipeg and Québec are tied at 1st. Saskatoon and Regina are dead last though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I agree with simonus, I did not have vegas on my radar but, the more I think about it; the more I feel it would be financially viable and with Vegas being a destination for many, you can get cheap flights. It would get loads of publicity. A good addition to the western conference. possible names.. Vegas Gamblers Vegas Warriors Vegas Thunder Vegas Sands Vegas Bandits Vegas Wranglers (name taken, ECHL team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigRedC Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 I think that they know that in Québec it would be almost always almost full. CDN$ also is closer to US$ IF a team moves, it HAS to be and will be to Canada. I might be naive, but I think Gary Bettman finally understood the importance of Hockey in Canada and the importance of Canada to the Survival of Hockey. However, will it be Québec, will it be Hamilton or will it be Winnipeg. My guess is that Hamilton is 3rd and that Winnipeg and Québec are tied at 1st. Saskatoon and Regina are dead last though . Where is Sudbury on that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAK Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Where is Sudbury on that list? just after petawawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Habby2919 Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 Ok,...... i have 5 things to say on this. 1. They tried to put a team in Hamilton in the early 80's I believe and Ballard and the owner of the Sabers blocked it. 2. Seattle is one city that I cant figure out why it doesnt have a team yet. 3. Las Vegas would be a good spot for a new team, I have an idea for a name and logo but im not saying ,..... just incase they have a contest or something that fans can submit ideas. 4. Id love for 2 more teams to be added to the NHL... Winnipeg and either Quebec or someplace worthy like Seattle, Las Vegas. This would give the NHL 32 teams, 16 in each confrence, half would make the playoffs. 5. Bettman would feel the Wrath of Zod! if he ever put a team in Kansas city or some other shitty small market american city,... Jacksonville, New Orleans... ETC... :hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 1. So the Sabres blocked it eh? Well with the new passports needed to cross the border all fans coming in from Canada will stop so that means Hamilton should get the go ahead. 2. With the Sonics moving to Oklahoma City the Key is vacant. Don't try to get a new arena though. Seattlites are tired of paying for stadiums when they could have used the money to build a mass transit system. 3. Las Vegas Gamblers or black jacks. Let the NBA try out the place first... 4. Add Quebec and Winnipeg drop Atlanta and Florida. 5. Boy if he ever pulls another stunt like that I don't know what I'll do. God no not New Orleans or Jacksonville. But sadly the pull to go to KC (WHY?!!!!) is too strong. That's sadly where the penguins will end up most likely. (And they will be gone within 10 years to Portland I garuntee it. Kansas City 1 sport town football) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Puck Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 I agree with simonus, I did not have vegas on my radar but, the more I think about it; the more I feel it would be financially viable and with Vegas being a destination for many, you can get cheap flights. It would get loads of publicity. A good addition to the western conference. possible names.. Vegas Gamblers Vegas Warriors Vegas Thunder Vegas Sands Vegas Bandits Vegas Wranglers (name taken, ECHL team) It won't be Los Vegas. Vegas is not a good sports city. Yes lots of people go there but they don't think "gee tonight would be a good night to see a hockey [basketball, baseball, football] game". There are too many other attractions that are unique to Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonus Posted July 22, 2006 Share Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) I can't see seattle getting a team - the canucks would veto. This is why I said portland, I figured it was as close as you could safely get. Also, Nike is based in Portland, so there is luxury box money there. Of course, luxury box money is definitely in Seattle.... although I'd trust sports shoe execs to buy tickets more than aeronautic engineers and software designers. I think it's all about being the first to LV. Cities can be shaped by the first arrival. Pros with LV: 1) Big city, one of the fastest growing in the US. I bet a lot of residents dont feel like going to the Venetian tonight. 2) Nobody takes LV seriously as a place to live. I think residents would appreciate the NHL showing faith. 3) Comps. The team could very well run on comps, especially in the beginning. It'd be a good comp to give out for a casino to give out to gamblers who could give a hoot about cirque de soleil. Problems: 1) Gambling. Kinda asking for a Pete Rose thing.... 2) The most logical place for an arena would be adjacent to or even inside a hotel/casino (see Connecticut Suns of the WNBA). That might be a hard sell to the NHL... would seem a little ridiculous to a lot of people. But what casino would want to drive an additional like 16-17 thousand people in.... Edited July 22, 2006 by simonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted July 23, 2006 Author Share Posted July 23, 2006 According to the SN (local Salzburg newspaper) who interviewed Mateschitz, Red Bull has no intention to build a 2nd hockey team and that the reports in the Journal de Montréal are completely false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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