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  1. 2 points
    I think Wilson belongs in there. He won a norris, was an all star in an era with a lot of good dmen. I think he should have been in years earlier. I hate the Lowe induction. Mogilny should have been in by now. But the Hockey hall of fame is probably the most fxcked up HOF in sports. I like baseball, where you rarely have someone selected who doesn’t belong and it truly is a best of all time, with better ways to measure and determine HOF worthiness with much better transparency. hockey is still run like a private old boys club.
  2. 2 points
    Prediction: Montreal takes Jake Allen in a cap dump move that frees up space for the blues to re-sign pietrangelo. Montreal also gets promising LHD who is an rfa in Vince Dunn in the deal. Lindgren is part of the return.
  3. 2 points
    Guys, Tampa can't match any offer. They are so unbelievably screwed this summer with a flat cap. Even if they offload Killorn (who has a 16 team NTC) in a no-salary-back deal they'll have just less than 10 million to sign Sergachev AND Cirelli AND 4 other players for a bare minimum roster. Unless you see them trading Kucherov or Point (the only really big money contracts without a NTC)? Or see Julien Brisebois convincing Palat, Gourde, Johnson, or McDonough to waive their full NTCs? (I'm sure they're just dying to help management out by leaving Tampa weather and annual Cup contending to go play in New Jersey.) $6 300 000 for 5 years (1st and 3rd round pick compensation), and Tampa walks away grumbling about hoping that Montreal is a lottery team again.
  4. 1 point
    That was the last time he had 2 first rd picks, in 2001 Habs had 2 and picked Komisarik (7) & Perezogin (25). https://recrutes.ca/trevor-timmins-drafting-record-top-class/
  5. 1 point
    If it was a normal 16 team playoff (based on pts %), and this lottery.... Winnipeg would have the 1st overall pick and Montreal would pick 9th....
  6. 1 point
    It's not just about having one facility. Where are the hotels (5-star, of course)? Are there multiple practice rinks nearby that can be part of the bubble? How many sets of dressing rooms are in the arena (and are they NHL-sized)? That's some of the bubble 'infrastructure' needed to make this work which takes most, if not all non-NHL markets out of the question.
  7. 1 point
    The state of the NHL in a nutshell:
  8. 1 point
    I would, if I could ... because I don't see the Habs as anywhere near a Cup contender and want a MAJOR re-set (since "rebuild" is apparently a dirty word around the Bell Centre) BUT, a full tank would (for example) mean playing Lindgren, sitting Weber, Petry, Gallagher, Drouin, Domi, Suzuki and Tartar ... the NHL might then take away the Habs first rounder as a penalty for obviously tanking ... more subtly, I suppose they could do things like: "force feed" KK as the 2C ... but getting eaten up by Crosby or Malkin may regress his development sit Domi for health reasons, or move him to LW (which seemed to make Max sulk when last done) to make room for Poehling as 3C ... but that could screw the relationship going forward) play Peca, Barber and Weise as the 4th line manage Weber and Petry's minutes ("because of" the layoff followed by inadequate training camp) and play Folin and Alzner as the 3rd pairing 18 minutes per game But even that would be a fairly obvious tank (if not perhaps punishable by the NHL) and annoy the players (if they are going to play they want to try to win) Sadly ... I think they have to count on the Pens just being better
  9. 1 point
    I saw that in Engels' mailbag but it's not doable. His contract doesn't start until 2020-21 so he technically isn't signed at the moment therefore he can't play.
  10. 1 point
    In the no-AHL scenario I would play ... oh, crap, I don't know how to even make this work. If there are to be no spectators allowed, what the NHL should do is fund AHL teams so that they can continue to play. It's not a massive cost to the NHL. And otherwise the teams will not be able to develop their prospects. And will, in the worst case, lose them to a European league or KHL.
  11. 1 point
    You're right - Lindgren (if extended) is eligible for exposure but if unsigned, he won't meet the exposure requirement. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I responded to your other post.
  12. 1 point
    Spending Canadian dollars would likely save the NHL money
  13. 1 point
    If someone wants to pay up for me to take 1 or 2 years of a deal, sure... but for a 7 year deal, no thanks. We will eventually have to pay guys like KK, Caufield, Romanov, Suzuki, and whoever we draft this year, plus other prospects. 7 years messes that up. I mean the Leafs paid a first round pick for Carolina to take (and buyout) one year of Marleau. 7 years of a deal like that? Yikes. The Jets paid us pretty well for one year of Mason.
  14. 1 point
    Mikhail Sergachev is set to become a restricted free agent at the end of the season. With the Lightning’s cap issues, it’s going to be hard to re-sign the stud defenceman. In order to do it, they’ll need to move out some of their core who have significant cap hits. However, this will not be an easy feat for the Lightning. If you look at the club’s roster, the players we come across as potential trade pieces are Yanni Gourde, Tyler Johnson, Ondrej Palat, Ryan McDonagh and Alex Killorn. Each of them have no-trade clauses. Of those players, only Killorn’s no-trade clause will turn into a modified no-trade clause this off-season. If the Lightning wants to try to move any of these players, they would need to accept a trade out of Tampa Bay. This does not seem likely. Hence why they had the no-trade clause put in their contract in the first place. Read more here: https://lastwordonhockey.com/2020/06/09/reacquiring-mikhail-sergachev-is-a-realistic-possibility-for-the-montreal-canadiens/ Reacquiring Sergachev would be a HUGE win for the Habs.
  15. 1 point
    So much talk about big eggos makes me hungry
  16. 1 point
    Alzner has been an important leader in Laval and has acted as an almost player-coach for young defence prospects there. Look, I hate the contract, but I don't hate the person. He took a contract that was offered to him, not his fault. He has shown up for work every day and whether its Montreal or Laval hasn't caused issues in the dressing room, has been a leader for the young kids and has been a good teammate. He tries hard, its not his fault he isn't good enough anymore. I can't really get mad at him for that.
  17. 1 point
    He offered Markov a one year deal, Markov held out for 2. In hindsight, seeing how Markov had one good year in the KHL before dropping off like a rock, was that ego or not overpaying for a player who was close to the end of his career?
  18. 1 point
    I think they should trade Weber and Price, but as long as MB is here neither will happen. Without enough talent around them, they’ll just age and decline and we will continue on the perpetual hamster wheel Of mediocrity. I like the direction the rangers took. Quick year down and rebuild is progressing. They’ll probably cut ties with Lundquist as well.
  19. 1 point
    Me too ... the current binary political atmosphere ("I" am always right and "they" are always wrong") has destroyed the political centre ...
  20. 1 point
    After losing last year's prediction thread by a goal in the tie breaker, I'm just going to go ahead and declare myself the winner this year with a prediction of 85 points. Closest total to the final standings of 71 and also to projected point total of 82 points. What a piece of crap season on the way to winning the Cup
  21. 1 point
    Komisarek comes to mind as someone who got overpaid after playing on the top pair with Markov, and a few others I would not overpay for Sergschev
  22. 1 point
    All of what you said is true. I also add that You also have to overpay at least a little, so Tampa doesn't match
  23. 1 point
    The money would be based as much on a belief in what he *will* do as what he's done. The kid is 21 years old and playing over 20 minutes per night on one of the best teams in hockey. Some can say, 'well, his stats are inflated because he plays on Tampa.' But you can just as easily stress how impressive it is that he has imposed himself to such a degree at such a young age upon such a strong roster. When was the last time a crappy franchise like the Habs, so desperate for star youth they throw guys like Mete and KK into key roles way before they're ready, had a 21-year-old playing those kinds of minutes so successfully? You probably have to go back to Subban. So it's a deal made with the view that he will be a top-pairing core piece for the next 10 years at least; an investment. How much Drouin gets paid should be utterly irrelevant to that calculation.
  24. 1 point
    But logic takes all the fun out of things.
  25. 1 point
    sorry ... pet peeve ... some believe that whoever gets the most goals "run the PP" ... just a trigger reaction
  26. 1 point
    Signing Sergechev is not trying to correct a wrong. It’s to fill a major hole and pickup a dman who looks like he will be a dominating top line Dman and he hasn’t even hit his prime. this isn’t like the Chelios for Savard trade where the the French media at the time was saying a great wrong had been corrected from when the Habs drafted Wickeneiser over the local French kid. At the time the habs traded one of the best dman in the league who was still in his prime as part of the regular animals Corey dictated crap moves for a declining French star. you make the move because that Sergechev is the best dman available as an RFA and Tampa is limited in how much they can offer. If Seth Jones was an RFA on a team in the same cap situation as Sergechev, I’d be willing to make the same offer for him as well.
  27. 1 point
    nothing is confirmed. Its all been, we'll do what the doctors tell us. I personally think he'll play. He has one strike against him, obviously... but he's also young, in tremendous shape (compared to the average person), his blood sugar has been well controlled for a long time. So while he has one risk factor, everything else seems to lower that
  28. 1 point
    Given the recent public health issues, long-term care problems and policing challenges (and even ignoring the environmental crisis), I think a lot more people would be willing to consider paying some more taxes now than would have been the case a year ago. If we restore the GST/HST rate, we would need to look at the HST rebates to ensure that the increase would not be too regressive and hurt low-income Canadians. And a thumbs-up for the Economist quote! 👍
  29. 1 point
    Well, three thoughts here. One is that COVID is an emergency, and there is almost universal agreement that, if you shut down the economy, you can't just let people flounder about and starve to death. So of course there is massive spending to help people and businesses through the emergency. That's not "fiscal irresponsibility" per se; it is a sensible and humane reaction to a national disaster. A second is that the fear of any deficits and debt which marked the 1990s is no longer characteristic of the thinking of economists. These days, "debt-to-GDP" tends to be the preferred measure. That's not to say that infinite deficit spending is sensible, merely that we should be careful not to freeze our thinking into an outmoded 1990s consensus (especially considering that a lot of damage was done in the 1990s, much as I admire Chretien-Martin's good governance). The new mainstream thinking is not necessarily an abandonment of fiscal prudence so much as a redefinition of what it means https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2019/01/17/economists-reconsider-how-much-governments-can-borrow Third, your point about tax increases is well taken. At present, we seem to be locked into a false binary between structural deficits and austerity. This binary could easily be overcome if we took the simple expediency of reversing one of the single worst policy decisions of the past 20 years, i.e., Harper's irresponsible and cynical 2% cut to the GST. Such a reversal would put tens of billions back in the kitty to be spent on health, infrastructure, you name it. But that's just an example. If Canadians want to overcome the aforementioned binary, we need to start talking intelligently about tax increases.
  30. 1 point
    Are there many barns near Joliette? I am guessing that may have prevented Gingras from practicing his shot...
  31. 1 point
    We don't have cap issues, so its hard to say... the Price contract or the Alzner contract is preventing us from getting player X. A lack of cap space hasn't been the issue. Yes they are overpaid, but its not a limiting factor right now.
  32. 1 point
    Let’s bring back Gaston Gingras out of retirement and see if he finally hit the net in his golden years.
  33. 1 point
  34. 1 point
    He's been surprisingly good during COVID... but I look at that the same way as you see Trudeau being good with the Racial questions. Eventually COVID will be gone, and we'll be back to his shitty policies, some of which made COVID worse (cutting funding to nursing homes, and then nursing homes being ill-prepared for COVID kinda go hand in hand)... but yeah, he's made good policy and had good response once he knew of the crisis. Once its gone though, I wonder if he'll focus on buck a beer again instead of fixing systemic problems we have.
  35. 1 point
    I consider myself a fiscal conservative but a social liberal. I was a fan of Joe Clark, I was a fan of Paul Martin. That middle of the aisle approach to both finance and social issues. The issue is that under people like Andrew Scheer, or Doug Ford provincially, or the others who are the current leaders of the conservatives, they have gotten wacky. The people leading them now have taken their cues from trump and have gone so far right wing on social issues that they are just wacky and I cant support that. Meanwhile Trudeau isn't anywhere close to where people like Paul Martin were from a fiscal standpoint. They are running NDP type fiscal policy. So where is that centrist position? Doesn't exist right now. That said, if forced to pick between the wacky conservatives who don't value human life IMO, or a fiscal policy i disagree with in Trudeau, I have to take the lesser of the evils and go for Trudeau cause people over property/money for me.
  36. 1 point
    I really find it hard to criticize Bergevin for Mete. We took a somewhat small 4th round D-man and got a guy who is a definite NHLer. I see no evidence at all that he would have turned out better if he had spent 2 more years in the AHL. Sure maybe he could have improved some of his skills in the minors. But maybe he would have stagnated there and ended up being a career AHLer. Claiming that he would have been better than he is with more AHL time is just begging the question.
  37. 1 point
    The same Quebec that had banned religious headcoverings in the last year? good to know.
  38. 1 point
    Agreed. It also doesn’t help when peaceful protests are also being dispersed by riot squads so that Trump can have a photo op at a church. I’m sure that didn’t help incite more violence🙄 having said that as, I don’t see things changing. I know I’m not known as an optimist when it comes to how the habs are run, but I have even less faith that anything will change. I was in university when the Rodney King incident happened and at that time their was disbelief that over 30 years after the gains made in the civil rights movement nothing had changed. There was a lot of talk back than how the police department la were going to go under complete changes. But nothing really has changed. its almost 30 years again and where still at the same place. The positive is that with social media a lot of athletes are speaking up and surprisingly major hockey players are commenting without being prompted. I remember Gretzky being asked about Rodney King and he basically dodged the issue and just said it was a bad situation. but you can’t have changes when the president calls white supremicsts good people. You can’t have change when there are still lots of senators and congressman who have similar attitudes and beliefs as the politicians that were there in the 60’s (most are more polished). even in Canada when you have MP’a like Derek Sloan not forced to resign for racist comments, nothing will change. i grew up with racism, faced it heavily even from teachers in the 70s/80’s as well as in university in the 90’s. Was denied an apartment I was trying to rent in Lethbridge during my one year of going to school there. I’ve never been more comfortable around police than I was that year in Lethbridge. I think my kids have had and should have less racism to deal with and really want to hope they won’t face any, but am to much of a realist to think they won’t.
  39. 1 point
    I'll bring up these two quotes, asking if its my place to decide how protests should be held. As a white man, its not my place to decide how they should protest... its my job to support their movement, not tell black people how to have that movement, that's for them to decide) I leave two quotes from Martin Luther King Jr. that I've thought a lot about. “I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”― Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from the Birmingham Jail “I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.” - Martin Luther King Jr., Speech at Stanford University, April 1967
  40. 1 point
    Not much has changed since Rodney King 20 years ago, other more more scrutiny and attention because of social media. not the same thing at all, but looking at how there is little to no backlash at Derek Sloan who is a leadership candidate for the conservatives question whether whether Dr. Tam works for Canada or China. Not much has changed in this type of racist comment than the attitudes that preceded the internment of Japanese Canadians during WW2. To me the fact that an MP can stay on and not be forced to resign is worse than some of the other incidents you hear about asians being beat up. At least those are by scumbags who aren’t elected officials in position of power.
  41. 1 point
    What's wrong is drawing an equivalence between murder by police brutality, and the damaging of private property. That's a pity. Didn't know that. 🙁
  42. 1 point
    Dunno, seems most are on same page and saying same thing, other than the KKKs favourite president.
  43. 1 point
    Meh, they are hockey players. I give em credit for speaking out but most of these guys only have a high school education (especially a whler like shea). I dont worry if he isnt eloquent and gets some help from a PR person, as long as his heart is in the right place. Also Kevin Weekes was on the 2 man advantage podcast (pierre lebrun via The Athletic) and he said there were a few NHLers who have done a lot money wise and support wise for the black community who dont push for their work to be publicized but have done great things. He named Sidney Crosby and a few others. One of the players was Shea Weber. So when it comes to things like this, I'm an actions speak louder than words kind of person and Kevin Weekes says that Weber's actions speak loud and clear, so I'm more than willing to accept that.
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