Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, BCHabnut said: Would need to be a top 5 pick a mid 1st round, a top prospect, and an elite young player with an amazing contract. If at all. That's a lot to give up. I would only give up that much if I was convinced that the #1 pick would turn out to be a McDavid or Mackinnon. Lafreniere is good no doubt, had a great tourney. Will he be a game changer in the NHL or just an excellent top tier player. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I would say 5th, 20th, Romanov or poehling caliber prospect and a top 6 player with a good contract. 1st overall never gets traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, BCHabnut said: Would need to be a top 5 pick a mid 1st round, a top prospect, and an elite young player with an amazing contract. If at all. Ok, here is an updated trade proposal: To Nashville: Petry + Cousins To Montreal: 1st round 2020 + contract (Craig Smith?) This gives Nashville more depth on Right-D fr a long playoff run and a bottom 6 forward ======= To the 2020 1st overall pick winner: 2x 1st round pick(15? and 20?) , 1x 2nd round pick (Chicago's), Ikonen and Mete for Lafrenière Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Here's a question...... Lets say New Jersey ends up with the 1st overall pick in the draft this year by wining the draft lottery. Would you offer them this trade for the 1st overall pick To Nj Price and Tatar To habs 1st overall pick In this year's draft NJ 1st round pick next year We take on Schneider's contract And we get Rights to LD Vatanen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: Here's a question...... Lets say New Jersey ends up with the 1st overall pick in the draft this year by wining the draft lottery. Would you offer them this trade for the 1st overall pick To Nj Price and Tatar To habs 1st overall pick In this year's draft NJ 1st round pick next year We take on Schneider's contract And we get Rights to LD Vatanen. I have a hard time seeing NJ take this. They are not ready to contend, either, so it seems like Price would not be a good fit for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, tomh009 said: I have a hard time seeing NJ take this. They are not ready to contend, either, so it seems like Price would not be a good fit for them. They need better goaltending Price would be an upgrade to what they have. Plus Tatar would give them more scoring. But its all arm chair talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: Here's a question...... Lets say New Jersey ends up with the 1st overall pick in the draft this year by wining the draft lottery. Would you offer them this trade for the 1st overall pick To Nj Price and Tatar To habs 1st overall pick In this year's draft NJ 1st round pick next year We take on Schneider's contract And we get Rights to LD Vatanen. NJD, OTT, LAK, ANA, DET, SJS and CHI are not good fits for trades with the Canadiens if dealing roster players. But I think that there is an opportunity to trade two first, two seconds, a prospect and a roster player to the lottery winner (quantity of picks and players) for the 1st pick overall. In your example, To NJD 2x 1st round picks, 2x 2nd round picks, Ikonen and Lehkonen To MTL 1st overall pick (Lafrenière) Now, the trick is to trade someone to get a second 1st round pick in 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: They need better goaltending Price would be an upgrade to what they have. Plus Tatar would give them more scoring. But its all arm chair talk. 1. Price wants to go to a team that can contend. Probably not NJ. 2. Yes, Price is an upgrade on NJ's tire-fire in nets. But whomever we replace Price with in the near-term will be a downgrade on Price. 3. Both the Habs and NJ are rebuilding teams. So if it makes sense for one to "upgrade" to Price in net, why does it make sense for the other to "downgrade" and trade Price away? Either Price and his contract are a good move for a rebuilding team, or they aren't. If they are, then we should keep him, assuming he is amenable to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: 1. Price wants to go to a team that can contend. Probably not NJ. 2. Yes, Price is an upgrade on NJ's tire-fire in nets. But whomever we replace Price with in the near-term will be a downgrade on Price. 3. Both the Habs and NJ are rebuilding teams. So if it makes sense for one to "upgrade" to Price in net, why does it make sense for the other to "downgrade" and trade Price away? Either Price and his contract are a good move for a rebuilding team, or they aren't. If they are, then we should keep him, assuming he is amenable to that. Agree, I really don't think Price is the least bit interested in going to New Jersey, if he's leaving Montreal then he would want to go to a contender and the Habs would likely have to take a contract back. It's a really complicated trade to make, I just don't see it happening but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Agree, I really don't think Price is the least bit interested in going to New Jersey, if he's leaving Montreal then he would want to go to a contender and the Habs would likely have to take a contract back. It's a really complicated trade to make, I just don't see it happening but you never know. Yeah - but all that being said, I personally am fine with us trading Price, as I mentioned in other threads. I just don't see that it makes a ton of sense for a rebuilding team to take Price on. He's more of a "San Jose Sharks/Edmonton Oilers" type of acquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Yeah - but all that being said, I personally am fine with us trading Price, as I mentioned in other threads. I just don't see that it makes a ton of sense for a rebuilding team to take Price on. He's more of a "San Jose Sharks/Edmonton Oilers" type of acquisition. I can see buffalo wanting him. Any thoughts on maybe Vancouver wanting him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: I can see buffalo wanting him. Any thoughts on maybe Vancouver wanting him? Vancouver has an excellent goalie in Markstrom and a youngster they believe in in Demko. Plus they're already in cap hell with amazing young players to lock up going forward. They'd be dumb to do it. Buffalo, yeah. And I don't understand why EDM would not be all over Price. We could take back Koskinen and an impact prospect/pick, and give them the best shot they will ever have to win a Cup. Carey would probably welcome the trade to be close to home and have a legit shot to win. Seems like a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Vancouver has an excellent goalie in Markstrom and a youngster they believe in in Demko. Plus they're already in cap hell with amazing young players to lock up going forward. They'd be dumb to do it. Buffalo, yeah. And I don't understand why EDM would not be all over Price. We could take back Koskinen and an impact prospect/pick, and give them the best shot they will ever have to win a Cup. Carey would probably welcome the trade to be close to home and have a legit shot to win. Seems like a great idea. I can see a trade like this To edmonton Price To habs Koskinen and Puljujarvi But i think they would be over The cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I read a rumor Colorado was interested in Price, Take it with a grain of salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris said: I read a rumor Colorado was interested in Price, Take it with a grain of salt Price on Colorado would be crazy with that team in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: I can see a trade like this To edmonton Price To habs Koskinen and Puljujarvi But i think they would be over The cap. Very much so. They'd need to come a lot closer to matching money than that. And to be honest, that's not a great return for Price, a fringe starter and a bust of a top prospect that's at best a bottom-six forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: I can see a trade like this To edmonton Price To habs Koskinen and Puljujarvi But i think they would be over The cap. That's the issue with an Edmonton trade, Oilers don't have enough cap room otherwise it could be a fit. I could definitely see Pulijujarvi as a piece coming back, still think he has great potential and would be comfortable on a team with other Finns. His english is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: Price on Colorado would be crazy with that team in front of him. I think Colorado would be a perfect fit (cap room and great prospects), funny that's where Roy ended up. He could be the final piece hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The rumor is the D-man they picked last year #3 0r $ I believe, a 2nd rounder and Gruebauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Byram i think his name is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Chris said: Byram i think his name is Yup Bowen Byram, he is tremendous and a left hand d. hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Chris said: The rumor is the D-man they picked last year #3 0r $ I believe, a 2nd rounder and Gruebauer Do you have a source for the rumour? Someone mentioned something similar to me the other day (I assume they saw the same thing you did) but it wasn't from any of the more reputable sources out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 It was from a sports radio station here in Denver They said the "word" is Price has been very disappointed in MB and the team in general Again, it's a rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted January 9, 2020 Author Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris said: It was from a sports radio station here in Denver They said the "word" is Price has been very disappointed in MB and the team in general Again, it's a rumor I generally don't put much stock in radio hosts when it comes to the credibility of trade rumours, especially if they're citing out of market stuff. (For those that don't know, I also write for a rumour site and this is the type of thing I keep track of and it rarely comes to fruition.) It's inductive reasoning (the Habs are struggling, Price is their top player, therefore it's likely that he's not happy, especially after his comment last summer) but that's not really a rumour when it's broken down. (A Colorado radio host almost certainly isn't going to know what's going on behind the scenes in Montreal.) Thanks for passing the info along though. Having said that, Colorado would make some sense as a destination but remember that they have Landeskog and Makar up soon and will need a lot of cap room to extend those two. They have some room now but they won't for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Yep, It would make sense for both teams, It's a radio host and an ex avalanche player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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