Wamsley01 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I would love to see Stewart get a shot in the playoffs. He strikes me as someone with lots of grit and heart, plus maybe a little offense considering what we saw in that Leafs game. But on the other hand, using Dandy and Brisebois makes sense against the Bruins since they are probably faster and shiftier than Stewart and O'Byrne respectively. Speed is the key to this series. If we just try to be tough, we'll be falling into the Bruins' hands. The only way Stewart sees the ice is if somebody gets hurt or their looking for a momentum change. They guy looked great against Toronto, but he has 1 game of NHL experience. What does it say to your veterans when you bump them for a kid who has proved absolutely nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Does anyone know what the name or version and what album that "The Streets Have No Name" that was played pregame last night comes from? Is it a live or alternate U2 version? Is it a cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 It's one of those club remixes. I doubt you could buy it on a U2 cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Is anyone forgetting that Stewart is probably faster than, if not as fast as, Dandenault? And after watching a few Bruins going after Komisarek's hip (and probably soon Bouillion's and Koivu's skates, when they return), I want someone out there who'll take them on, and possibly, win. Dandenault is useful in that he's a F/D. He's not very good at either, but it's useful. That's how he helped Bowman with all those cups. However, we have that in Streit as well, who's arguably better at both positions. So we don't need to keep two dual F/Ds on our roster when the odds of losing one are small enough as it is. Seriously, look at Dandy's stats. He's usually a minus player in the playoffs, and has only played in every game of his team's Stanley-Cup runs once. He's better in the regular season than the playoffs, and I just don't want to see us get hurt because the Boston sized up the odds of causing an injury vs. having to deal with Dandenault, and liked their odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Is anyone forgetting that Stewart is probably faster than, if not as fast as, Dandenault? And after watching a few Bruins going after Komisarek's hip (and probably soon Bouillion's and Koivu's skates, when they return), I want someone out there who'll take them on, and possibly, win. Dandenault is useful in that he's a F/D. He's not very good at either, but it's useful. That's how he helped Bowman with all those cups. However, we have that in Streit as well, who's arguably better at both positions. So we don't need to keep two dual F/Ds on our roster when the odds of losing one are small enough as it is. Seriously, look at Dandy's stats. He's usually a minus player in the playoffs, and has only played in every game of his team's Stanley-Cup runs once. He's better in the regular season than the playoffs, and I just don't want to see us get hurt because the Boston sized up the odds of causing an injury vs. having to deal with Dandenault, and liked their odds. Talk to me about a proven commodity replacing Dandenault. Not a guy who you hadn't heard of 10 days ago. Dandenault has been a respected member of this team for years. You do not treat players like that because a kid had one strong NHL game. Chemistry is just as important on a Cup run. As far as speed, who cares. Why do you need an untested Lamborghini to beat a VW Bug when a proven Porsche will do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Talk to me about a proven commodity replacing Dandenault. Not a guy who you hadn't heard of 10 days ago. Dandenault has been a respected member of this team for years. You do not treat players like that because a kid had one strong NHL game. Chemistry is just as important on a Cup run. As far as speed, who cares. Why do you need an untested Lamborghini to beat a VW Bug when a proven Porsche will do? Respected? Unlikely. He was appreciated, sure, but he got his fair share of abuse for doing things wrong. He sat out with injuries for a quarter of the season, and I did not hear anyone saying, "boy, I hope Dandenault is back soon!". Higgins, Koivu, Kovalev - they're respected. Even Bouillion or Latendresse have some respect. But Dandenault hasn't done anything worthy of recognition or respect. He was just lucky to be on Bowman's squad a few times. He's a depth player, and does his job adequately. But in my opinion, there are others who could do his job just as well, and bring something else. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying replace Dandenault with Stewart permanently. But next game, when the Bruins figure out, "hey, we got beat up last game. But we're supposed to be the goons. Something's not right here...", they'll come a rockin', and I don't trust Dandenault to be a knockin'. Stewart could at least pair off, and hey, he might surprise you. Re: speed - it's Dandenault's greatest weapon. Without it, he has neither a fearsome shot, big bulk, fighting prowess, great (nay, good) playmaking abilities, or a level of fear. At least scrappers get some respect, even if they are only 6'2 and 21 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familia Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I don't believe I missed this game. I was travelling from Boston to Athens. It's bad enough I had to be in Beantown a week early, but I also found out that my cousin has box seats for Tuesday's game and he's driving down from Montreal (one of the perks of working for TD Bank). Anyway, Game 2 is by far the most important game of the series. Win it, and ur two wins away from clinching. Lose, and ur back at square one. By the way, mark my words, but the time we're done with the playoffs, the city of Montreal will have a major love affair with Tom Kostopoulos. GO HABS GO kosto speaks french? never knew that! how is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wamsley01 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Respected? Unlikely. He was appreciated, sure, but he got his fair share of abuse for doing things wrong. He sat out with injuries for a quarter of the season, and I did not hear anyone saying, "boy, I hope Dandenault is back soon!". Higgins, Koivu, Kovalev - they're respected. Even Bouillion or Latendresse have some respect. But Dandenault hasn't done anything worthy of recognition or respect. He was just lucky to be on Bowman's squad a few times. He's a depth player, and does his job adequately. But in my opinion, there are others who could do his job just as well, and bring something else. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying replace Dandenault with Stewart permanently. But next game, when the Bruins figure out, "hey, we got beat up last game. But we're supposed to be the goons. Something's not right here...", they'll come a rockin', and I don't trust Dandenault to be a knockin'. Stewart could at least pair off, and hey, he might surprise you. Re: speed - it's Dandenault's greatest weapon. Without it, he has neither a fearsome shot, big bulk, fighting prowess, great (nay, good) playmaking abilities, or a level of fear. At least scrappers get some respect, even if they are only 6'2 and 21 years old. You know the respect level in the dressing room? Why do the Habs need a guy who can fight when they have not needed one all season? Why do they need to make changes to a lineup that won game one handily? Why remove a guy who had 3 goals and an assist and is a +1 against them this season? What has been identified that they need to beat Boston? I think the fact that they have won 12 straight that they have done a pretty good job of identifying what they need to win. I don't really think tossing in an inexperienced rookie in Grabs or Stewart is going to make the Canadiens significantly better. Until Dandenault does something that warrants a removal I don't think it makes sense to replace a guy who can drop back to D should an injury arise with mulitple Stanley Cups for a soft speedy forward or a kid who played 1 NHL game with nothing on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_glorieux Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 You know the respect level in the dressing room? Why do the Habs need a guy who can fight when they have not needed one all season? Why do they need to make changes to a lineup that won game one handily? Why remove a guy who had 3 goals and an assist and is a +1 against them this season? What has been identified that they need to beat Boston? I think the fact that they have won 12 straight that they have done a pretty good job of identifying what they need to win. I don't really think tossing in an inexperienced rookie in Grabs or Stewart is going to make the Canadiens significantly better. Until Dandenault does something that warrants a removal I don't think it makes sense to replace a guy who can drop back to D should an injury arise with mulitple Stanley Cups for a soft speedy forward or a kid who played 1 NHL game with nothing on the line. Seconded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iron Lung Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I'm not a Dandenault fan but his versatility comes in handy now. He can play forward on the 4th line and be ready to take a spot on defense if Komisarek runs into troubles with his hip... or if something unfortunate happens to another defenseman. It's nice to have that kind of versatility from a line-up spot which is normally reserved for an untalented goon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrib Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ole ole ole .... anyone here was on La Gauchetiere rd last night after the game ... only one game and it's already CRAZY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ole ole ole .... anyone here was on La Gauchetiere rd last night after the game ... only one game and it's already CRAZY!! I was there. See the guy with the 2007-2008 Stanley Cup Banner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share Posted April 11, 2008 Nice thread. Maybe if Spidey stops by he can add some more of his content to the game thread. maybe some pics and those Hot cold players things. http://forecaster.ca/thescore/hockey/tott.cgi?Mtl Hot & Cold players will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrib Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I was there. See the guy with the 2007-2008 Stanley Cup Banner? i think i saw about 20 banner with the "cup" as theme lol ... so maybe yes i did lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsy Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 kosto speaks french? never knew that! how is he? His french?? Well it's pretty rough. But I respect him for trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafikz Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Price : " Wow, it's really hard " Metropolit : "Yeah I know...wait, are you talking about the shot? " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_glorieux Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Does anyone know what the name or version and what album that "The Streets Have No Name" that was played pregame last night comes from? Is it a live or alternate U2 version? Is it a cover? I believe it was played by the in house band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Stealth Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 + = BEST FRIENDS FOREVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Stealth Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 + = BEST FRIENDS FOREVER EPIC FAIL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 His french?? Well it's pretty rough. But I respect him for trying. It's more like franglais, but yeah, it's nice to see him try. I live in Quebec and learned French at school since kindergarden and if I were a pro hockey player in Montreal, I wouldn't be willing to take interviews (atleast not press conferences) in French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAussiePosse Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) You know the respect level in the dressing room? Why do the Habs need a guy who can fight when they have not needed one all season? Why do they need to make changes to a lineup that won game one handily? Why remove a guy who had 3 goals and an assist and is a +1 against them this season? What has been identified that they need to beat Boston? I think the fact that they have won 12 straight that they have done a pretty good job of identifying what they need to win. I don't really think tossing in an inexperienced rookie in Grabs or Stewart is going to make the Canadiens significantly better. Until Dandenault does something that warrants a removal I don't think it makes sense to replace a guy who can drop back to D should an injury arise with mulitple Stanley Cups for a soft speedy forward or a kid who played 1 NHL game with nothing on the line. I have about as much knowledge of the respect level in the dressing room as you. In calling to sub in Stewart for Dandenault, I'm speaking as a fan, and many fans have expressed a desire to see Stewart again, but I haven't seen any posts (bar one) saying, "wow, Dandenault is essential to this team. He is irreplaceable, yada yada". I'm sure a poll of random fans would see them side with giving Stewart a shot in game two, over someone like Dandenault. Chances are, if Stewart had played all 5 games in lieu of Dandenault against the Bs this season, he'd have just as many points. Begin, for example, had three points against the Bs. Latendresse, in the limited ice time he receives, had two points. In the numerous routs of the Bruins, it's fair to say that most players padded their stats. Dandenault still had a shocking +/- at the end of the season, and for his position on the grinder/defensive line, that's not good enough. Re: identifying, I'm not talking about beating Boston, we have that down fine. I'm concerned that we are more susceptible to injuries by angered, head-hunting Bruins when we have Dandenault than when we have Stewart. He's not Laraque, but he could bring all that Dandenault does, and probably more. Edit: And re: speed, that's Dandenault's greatest strength. If he didn't have that, he'd never have made it to the NHL. I was referencing it because that's his greatest strength, if not his only one, and I'd rather use a 2008 Lamborghini than a 1960 Mustang convertible if the former has something additional to offer. Like seat warmers. Edited April 12, 2008 by TheAussiePosse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMPL Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Talk to me about a proven commodity replacing Dandenault. Not a guy who you hadn't heard of 10 days ago. Dandenault has been a respected member of this team for years. You do not treat players like that because a kid had one strong NHL game. Chemistry is just as important on a Cup run. As far as speed, who cares. Why do you need an untested Lamborghini to beat a VW Bug when a proven Porsche will do? Great Post Wamsley Also, nice Pics Rafikz and Cap. Stealth :ghg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoZed Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 Koivu and Bouillon won't dress for Game 2 http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080411...30/CPACTUALITES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Koivu and Bouillon won't dress for Game 2 http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20080411...30/CPACTUALITES No suprise. I bet Ob is scratched again. Why change the line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Why change the line up. Exactly...you don't change the line-up coming off of a convincing win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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